[nfbmi-talk] general versis governmental afares

[Joe Sontag]

Ahd do you, Mr. Harcz, really that you alone are exempt from the requirements of knowing what messages are to be posted to what list? I would deal with the matter much more directly, but I am not the President.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "joe harcz Comcast via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Jeff Crouch- k8tvv" <k8tvv2 at gmail.com>; "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 22:55
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] general versis governmental afares


: We do not serve our youth who are blind or adults for that matter; nor do we 
: raise expectations by "dumming down" everything sir.
: 
: It is because I believe in the potential of all of us who are blind that I 
: will not lower expectations or be stifled concerning complex issues 
: including those related to basic citizenship, involvement and civil rights, 
: and other "governmental hoopla" as you put it.
: 
: If we in the Federation advocate as we do for equal access and participation 
: in STEM education then are we to lower expectations on blind youth over 
: social sciences including basic civics, social studies, economics, history 
: and law?
: 
: Or do we promote ignorance amongst our youth?
: 
: Or are we saying this stuff is just too hard for blind people to understand 
: and thus lower our expectations in a paternalistic manner that will keep 
: them, us doomed to live in the dark vessel of self-imposed ignorance?
: 
: It is because I have high expectations of you, personally Jeff that I make 
: these statements and ask these questions.
: 
: Joe
: ----- Original Message ----- 
: From: "Jeff Crouch- k8tvv via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
: To: <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
: Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 8:43 PM
: Subject: [nfbmi-talk] general versis governmental afares
: 
: 
: > Hello all,
: > Coming from a person who doesn't really want to look at governmental
: > hoopla everyday all day as I'm looking through my email, I think that
: > the governmental a fares list is very appropriate. It is each person's
: > choice whether they want to read that or not, and if they do, then
: > they can subscribe to that list. There have been quite a few people
: > who I know personally who aren't on this list because of all the
: > governmental legal stuff that is posted.
: > If we want to grow our list serve we have to reflect things that will
: > be understandable to common people, so that way we don't scare them
: > off by all the quote unquote big technical legal talk.
: > Then as they grow to understand the legal things then they can have a
: > dedicated place for that.
: > This is just how I feel from someone who doesn't understand a lot of
: > what's posted. This list is important to me, and I want it to be a
: > good place for others to get good information.
: >
: > Thanks
: >
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: > 73
: > k8tvv
: > Jeff Crouch
: >
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