[nfbmi-talk] Fw: what is nfb doing about this andother inaccessable web sites and web pages?

David Robinson drob1946 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 3 13:25:50 UTC 2016


   First of all, I was just passing this on to others because I felt it was 
an important topic.  Secondly, My commitment to the NFB and itspurpose is as 
strong as it has ever been,and will continue to be strong.  I know what it 
means to struggle for our civil rights. I do believe however, that even 
though we take on issues that are important to us, it is also critical that 
we know that our colleagues and our organization is supportive.  It appears 
to me that the fight on issues has been clouded by personalities and I am 
sorry for this, but have experienced its truth.  Finally, I can say that I 
have goals for myself and others, but I know that the NFB of Michigan also 
has goals which are based on our resolutions. Let us apply our time and 
resources toward meeting those goals. All of those goals.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Wurtzel via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>; <officeofthepresident at nfb.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: what is nfb doing about this andother 
inaccessable web sites and web pages?

> Hello Dave,
> Too the subject question, " what is nfb doing about this and other
> inaccessible web sites and web pages?"  I am as frustrated as anyone over
> the State's inaccessible websites.  As you know, being a member of this
> organization longer than me, when there are issues, it is not up to 
> someone
> else.  It is each of our responsibilities to take up causes as we can. 
> For
> example, you have worked very hard and advocated for years for blind
> vendors.  You did not expect someone else to step up.  So, with this 
> issue,
> like you did with vendors, anyone who is passionate ought to jump in, work
> with our membership and make a plan to resolve the webpage issue or work 
> at
> it until it is resolved.  This will entail working with people who don't
> care, are incompetent or hostile.  Occasionally, the person who is working
> on the web page will find an ally inside the system.  We cannot be 
> deterred
> by the negatives.  We must take joy in small victories and the
> acknowledgment of our colleagues that we are trying.  We will need to 
> remain
> positive and firm about our goals.
> You and I knew Dr. Jernigan.  I observed and personally experienced that
> when someone said the NFB ought to do something, he simply said "go 
> ahead."
> He expected us to take personal responsibility for things which need
> attention.  If we all work on something we care about, we can make a
> difference.  If we all wait for someone else to do something, it will 
> never
> get done.
> I admire Mark Eagle for jumping on the voting issue.  He has been working 
> on
> this for a long time.  When he needs help, he can ask and he will find 
> many
> people ready to step up and do something.  He is a good example of not
> waiting for someone else to do something.
> Marianne has taken up the issue of accessible software for human services
> professionals.  When I listen to her presentations, I don't understand a 
> lot
> of what she is saying.  I do understand that she knows her subject, those
> who can help make change and what is needed.  She has not let the 
> resistance
> to change deter her.  She keeps on trying.  This is the spirit of the
> Federation.
> There are more than enough things to do to go around.  No individual can 
> do
> it all, that is why we have an organization.  I know I am preaching to the
> choir, here.  It is not some anonymous group, it is each of us who need to
> step up to solve these important issues.  So, whoever has the time, 
> interest
> and knowledge to work on working with DIT for years, then they ought to 
> roll
> up their sleeves and work on it.  It will take hours, months and years of
> diligent, unrewarding effort.  If someone does not have the knowledge, 
> they
> ought to try, anyway.  By the end of the first year, they will know more
> than all the rest of us about the topic.  We all need to pick our 
> priorities
> and then work as hard as we can stand.  We will only get recognition from
> our colleagues.  The sighted public will mostly be indifferent and some 
> will
> be hostile.  There will be a few friends who will work along with us, but
> mostly it will be up to us.  Since 1940 we have made a lot of progress 
> with
> this approach.  We will continue to do so.
> Thanks for sharing this issue with us.
> Warmest Regards.
> Fred
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David
> Robinson via nfbmi-talk
> Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 1:03 PM
> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: David Robinson <drob1946 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: what is nfb doing about this and other
> inaccessable web sites and web pages?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: joe harcz Comcast
> To: Larry Posont NFBMI Pres.
> Cc: Mark A. Riccobono NFB Pres. ; David Robinson NFB MI ; terry Eagle ; 
> Mark
> Eagle
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 11:43 AM
> Subject: what is nfb doing about this and other inaccessable web sites and
> web pages?
> Please see the attached. It goes to the scofflaw Statewide Independent
> Living Council and its inaccessible web site. And there are literally tens
> of thousands of web pages on Michigan's web sites that are not accessible.
> But, these things have been ignored by NFB for years.
> Joe Harcz
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