[Nfbmo] Fw: [Missouri-l] Fw: [Quietcars] From yesterday's USAToday

Fri Nov 13 13:03:58 UTC 2009

Dan:

I like your Fat Albert, but I'm not sure that is the best vehicle noise. 
Now, it would get our attention for a while though.  But I don't want a 
siren or the sound of a model airplane or some other atrocious noise either. 
Maybe that gravel noise, just slightly enhanced.

Susan

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>
>     Sometimes we just hate to be right, you know?  It's good that this 
> report has come to light, no so good that there indeed have been more 
> pedestrians and cyclists injured by otherwise great technology.   Nothing 
> says
> 'Fix-it' like proof that your product is unsafe.
>    But the notes on what the cars should sound like - well, I just can't 
> resist:
>    Perhaps Bill Cosby's old character, Fat Albert", could be called to 
> duty?
>    "Hey, Hey HEY!"
> That would get our attention but it would probably get really obnoxious 
> after a few days.
> Dan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wunder, Gary <WunderG at health.missouri.edu>
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> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] Fw: [Missouri-l] Fw: [Quietcars] From yesterday's USA 
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>
>
> I respectfully suggest that a car needs to sound like a car, or, more
> enerically, a vehicle needs to sound like a vehicle. I like Glen Campbell 
> and
> ames Taylor, but when something outweighs me 20 or 40 to 1, I want to know 
> it
> s a vehicle and not a performer's band from down the street.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Of
> red olver
> ent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:37 AM
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> ubject: [Nfbmo] Fw: [Missouri-l] Fw: [Quietcars] From yesterday's USA 
> Today
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> rom: "Chip Hailey" <chiphailey at cableone.net>
> o: <missouri-l at moblind.org>
> ent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:32 PM
> ubject: [Missouri-l] Fw: [Quietcars] From yesterday's USA Today
>
>>
>> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2009/11/620001194/1
>> ****
>> Hybrid cars hit pedestrians and bikers more often than conventional
>> cars, study finds
>>
>> Hybrid vehicles, which creep along almost silently at low speeds on
>> electric power, are more likely to hit pedestrians or bicycles than
>> regular cars, a
>> study by the
>> National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
>> finds.
>>
>> The report (see it by
>> clicking here
>> ) is sure to give a boost to the movement to require hybrid cars to
>> include noisemakers so that bikers, pedestrians -- especially the
>>  blind -- know they
>> are coming. Several makers already say they have
>> such a system on the way.
>>
>> The NHTSA report was actually done about a month ago, but didn't come  to
>> light until it was
>> reported by  Consumer Reports last week
>> . It compared the rate of accidents among hybrid vehicles and powered
>> only by gas engines when it comes to pedestrians and bikes. Said
>> Consumer Reports
>> on its blog:
>>
>> block quote
>> NHTSA looked at state-level crash files to compare crash rates on  these
>> two types of vehicles. Out of 8,387 hybrids 77 (or 0.9%) were  involved
>> in crashes
>> with pedestrians. Out of 559,703 conventional vehicles studied, 3,578
>> (or 0.6%) were involved in crashes with pedestrians. In crashes
>> involving bicyclists,
>> 48 (or almost 0.6%) were involved in crashes with a hybrid vehicle
>> whereas conventional vehicles were implicated in 1,862 (or 0.3%) of
>> crashes.
>>
>> block quote end
>>
>> It's a shame in a way. For decades, automakers have been trying to
>> figure out how to make cars quieter. So finally they come up with
>> vehicles so quiet that
>> about the only sounds is the gravel crushing under the wheels and, lo
>> and behold, it could be too dangerous because no one can hear it coming.
>>
>> So the question is, how to create the proper hybrid noisemaker? Should
>> it be a high-tech, spaceship sound? Maybe make it kind of a white  noise
>> like a TV
>> that doesn't work? Once Drive On heard a car coming a half-mile away.
>> When it came into sight, it was a 1963 Chevrolet Impala low-rider
>> blaring Led Zeppelin
>> from a pair of forward-aimed speakers. Thought it was pretty cool at  the
>> time.
>
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