[Nfbmo] Fw: [Missouri-l] Fw: [Quietcars] From yesterday's USAToday

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> From: johnsusanford at earthlink.net
> To: nfbmo at nfbnet.org
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:03:58 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] Fw: [Missouri-l] Fw: [Quietcars] From yesterday's USAToday
>
> Dan:
>
> I like your Fat Albert, but I'm not sure that is the best vehicle noise.
> Now, it would get our attention for a while though. But I don't want a
> siren or the sound of a model airplane or some other atrocious noise either.
> Maybe that gravel noise, just slightly enhanced.
>
> Susan
>
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>>
>> Sometimes we just hate to be right, you know? It's good that this
>> report has come to light, no so good that there indeed have been more
>> pedestrians and cyclists injured by otherwise great technology. Nothing
>> says
>> 'Fix-it' like proof that your product is unsafe.
>> But the notes on what the cars should sound like - well, I just can't
>> resist:
>> Perhaps Bill Cosby's old character, Fat Albert", could be called to
>> duty?
>> "Hey, Hey HEY!"
>> That would get our attention but it would probably get really obnoxious
>> after a few days.
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wunder, Gary 
>> To: 'NFB of Missouri Mailing List' 
>> Sent: Thu, Nov 12, 2009 8:46 am
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] Fw: [Missouri-l] Fw: [Quietcars] From yesterday's USA
>> Today
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>>
>>
>> I respectfully suggest that a car needs to sound like a car, or, more
>> enerically, a vehicle needs to sound like a vehicle. I like Glen Campbell
>> and
>> ames Taylor, but when something outweighs me 20 or 40 to 1, I want to know
>> it
>> s a vehicle and not a performer's band from down the street.
>>
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>> rom: nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
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>> red olver
>> ent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:37 AM
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>> ubject: [Nfbmo] Fw: [Missouri-l] Fw: [Quietcars] From yesterday's USA
>> Today
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>> rom: "Chip Hailey" 
>> o: 
>> ent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:32 PM
>> ubject: [Missouri-l] Fw: [Quietcars] From yesterday's USA Today
>>
>>>
>>> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2009/11/620001194/1
>>> ****
>>> Hybrid cars hit pedestrians and bikers more often than conventional
>>> cars, study finds
>>>
>>> Hybrid vehicles, which creep along almost silently at low speeds on
>>> electric power, are more likely to hit pedestrians or bicycles than
>>> regular cars, a
>>> study by the
>>> National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
>>> finds.
>>>
>>> The report (see it by
>>> clicking here
>>> ) is sure to give a boost to the movement to require hybrid cars to
>>> include noisemakers so that bikers, pedestrians -- especially the
>>> blind -- know they
>>> are coming. Several makers already say they have
>>> such a system on the way.
>>>
>>> The NHTSA report was actually done about a month ago, but didn't come to
>>> light until it was
>>> reported by Consumer Reports last week
>>> . It compared the rate of accidents among hybrid vehicles and powered
>>> only by gas engines when it comes to pedestrians and bikes. Said
>>> Consumer Reports
>>> on its blog:
>>>
>>> block quote
>>> NHTSA looked at state-level crash files to compare crash rates on these
>>> two types of vehicles. Out of 8,387 hybrids 77 (or 0.9%) were involved
>>> in crashes
>>> with pedestrians. Out of 559,703 conventional vehicles studied, 3,578
>>> (or 0.6%) were involved in crashes with pedestrians. In crashes
>>> involving bicyclists,
>>> 48 (or almost 0.6%) were involved in crashes with a hybrid vehicle
>>> whereas conventional vehicles were implicated in 1,862 (or 0.3%) of
>>> crashes.
>>>
>>> block quote end
>>>
>>> It's a shame in a way. For decades, automakers have been trying to
>>> figure out how to make cars quieter. So finally they come up with
>>> vehicles so quiet that
>>> about the only sounds is the gravel crushing under the wheels and, lo
>>> and behold, it could be too dangerous because no one can hear it coming.
>>>
>>> So the question is, how to create the proper hybrid noisemaker? Should
>>> it be a high-tech, spaceship sound? Maybe make it kind of a white noise
>>> like a TV
>>> that doesn't work? Once Drive On heard a car coming a half-mile away.
>>> When it came into sight, it was a 1963 Chevrolet Impala low-rider
>>> blaring Led Zeppelin
>>> from a pair of forward-aimed speakers. Thought it was pretty cool at the
>>> time.
>>
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