[Nfbmo] blind pension

Fri Aug 6 00:39:13 UTC 2010

Interesting topic I must say.
And Everyone is right!
There is actually a thing called a "Lien Law" which is not directed at Blind 
Pension per se.
Worries about the lien law should not  influence the decision on whether or 
not to purchase a house. There several reasons I say this.
1. The lien law effects anyone who receives any state assistance including 
Temporary Assistance, Medicaid, Nursing Care Assistance, Vocational 
Rehabilitation funding, RSB funding and possibily. As Blind persons we have 
all received funding from RSB already. IMPORTANT: the Missouri lien law only 
affects   only covers the state portion of the funding as I understand it.
2. The state's ability to collect is hampered by the fact that they are a 
lower level creditor in the order of payment. If memory serves me they are 
seventh on the list. They will not, for instance try and recoup if there is 
a living spouse. And, they cannot collect  to the point that it leaves the 
remaining distitute. )(They can take a big chunk.
3. The law applies not only to your house but your entire estate including 
stocks, bonds, cash and bank accounts a fact that many folks overlook.
4. Odds are you will sell the house before you die anyway. Bryan is right 
that the house is excluded in figuring the $20,000 exemption but the lien 
law makes no such provision it is simple in the fact it states that the 
state shall have claim on any estate in which public assistance dollars have 
been paid on the deceased.
If there is sufficient interest I will research the law in depth before the 
SSA seminar.
Gene
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] blind pension


> hi,
>
> i don't see how that could be true because owning a house is excluded /not 
> counted when they check if your assets are less than 20k.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dewey Bradley" <dewey.bradley at att.net>
> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] blind pension
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>
>> O.K
>> So do you know if if you own a house and you die and try to will it to 
>> your child or spouse, Someone said that the state will take it from them 
>> to get the money back that you were paid.
>> I don't think that's true, but it might be.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] blind pension
>>
>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> just what i said, if money is ever paid out from the bp case, say if a 
>>> person was receiving monthly payments in the past and they are now 
>>> deceased, their portion from the suit will not be given to their child, 
>>> it will be returned to the suit pool.
>>>
>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Dewey Bradley" <dewey.bradley at att.net>
>>> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] blind pension
>>>
>>>
>>>> what do you mean by that?
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:29 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] blind pension
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> not too sure about your housing question but for cases where the bp 
>>>>> case owes people from the past and the person is now deceased, their 
>>>>> percentage of the lawsuit will not be given as inheritance, it will be 
>>>>> returned to the pool.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Dewey Bradley" <dewey.bradley at att.net>
>>>>> To: <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:35 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Nfbmo] blind pension
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone point me somewhere that I can understand the rules.
>>>>>> Some people seam to think that if you get blind pension, and when you 
>>>>>> die, the state will take your house to get back the money, I don't 
>>>>>> think that is true, but I can't find the rules, everyone has 
>>>>>> different ideas about the rules.
>>>>>> Also I was told by someone yesterday that if you get a hud vowlcher, 
>>>>>> that they will cut your pension back.
>>>>>> I ask because I just got my hud vowlcher.
>>>>>> So does anyone really know how the rules work, or can you tell me 
>>>>>> where to look?
>>>>>> I know that Missouri has some really confusing laws.
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> Dewey Bradley
>>>>>> Springfield Missouri
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