[Nfbmo] blind pension

Fri Aug 6 03:34:19 UTC 2010

   Thanks Gene that would be great!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eugene Coulter" <escoulter at centurytel.net>
To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] blind pension


> Interesting topic I must say.
> And Everyone is right!
> There is actually a thing called a "Lien Law" which is not directed at 
> Blind Pension per se.
> Worries about the lien law should not  influence the decision on whether 
> or not to purchase a house. There several reasons I say this.
> 1. The lien law effects anyone who receives any state assistance including 
> Temporary Assistance, Medicaid, Nursing Care Assistance, Vocational 
> Rehabilitation funding, RSB funding and possibily. As Blind persons we 
> have all received funding from RSB already. IMPORTANT: the Missouri lien 
> law only affects   only covers the state portion of the funding as I 
> understand it.
> 2. The state's ability to collect is hampered by the fact that they are a 
> lower level creditor in the order of payment. If memory serves me they are 
> seventh on the list. They will not, for instance try and recoup if there 
> is a living spouse. And, they cannot collect  to the point that it leaves 
> the remaining distitute. )(They can take a big chunk.
> 3. The law applies not only to your house but your entire estate including 
> stocks, bonds, cash and bank accounts a fact that many folks overlook.
> 4. Odds are you will sell the house before you die anyway. Bryan is right 
> that the house is excluded in figuring the $20,000 exemption but the lien 
> law makes no such provision it is simple in the fact it states that the 
> state shall have claim on any estate in which public assistance dollars 
> have been paid on the deceased.
> If there is sufficient interest I will research the law in depth before 
> the SSA seminar.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 4:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] blind pension
>
>
>> hi,
>>
>> i don't see how that could be true because owning a house is excluded 
>> /not counted when they check if your assets are less than 20k.
>>
>> Bryan Schulz
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dewey Bradley" <dewey.bradley at att.net>
>> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] blind pension
>>
>>
>>> O.K
>>> So do you know if if you own a house and you die and try to will it to 
>>> your child or spouse, Someone said that the state will take it from them 
>>> to get the money back that you were paid.
>>> I don't think that's true, but it might be.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] blind pension
>>>
>>>
>>>> hi,
>>>>
>>>> just what i said, if money is ever paid out from the bp case, say if a 
>>>> person was receiving monthly payments in the past and they are now 
>>>> deceased, their portion from the suit will not be given to their child, 
>>>> it will be returned to the suit pool.
>>>>
>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Dewey Bradley" <dewey.bradley at att.net>
>>>> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:30 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] blind pension
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> what do you mean by that?
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:29 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] blind pension
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not too sure about your housing question but for cases where the bp 
>>>>>> case owes people from the past and the person is now deceased, their 
>>>>>> percentage of the lawsuit will not be given as inheritance, it will 
>>>>>> be returned to the pool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Dewey Bradley" <dewey.bradley at att.net>
>>>>>> To: <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:35 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [Nfbmo] blind pension
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can anyone point me somewhere that I can understand the rules.
>>>>>>> Some people seam to think that if you get blind pension, and when 
>>>>>>> you die, the state will take your house to get back the money, I 
>>>>>>> don't think that is true, but I can't find the rules, everyone has 
>>>>>>> different ideas about the rules.
>>>>>>> Also I was told by someone yesterday that if you get a hud vowlcher, 
>>>>>>> that they will cut your pension back.
>>>>>>> I ask because I just got my hud vowlcher.
>>>>>>> So does anyone really know how the rules work, or can you tell me 
>>>>>>> where to look?
>>>>>>> I know that Missouri has some really confusing laws.
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> Dewey Bradley
>>>>>>> Springfield Missouri
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