[Nfbmo] blind pension

Roger RogerLH605 at aol.com
Sat Aug 7 19:04:40 UTC 2010


Hi Gene:

I would find it all very

Sincerely,
Roger

On Aug 5, 2010, at 7:39 PM, "Eugene Coulter"  
<escoulter at centurytel.net> wrote:

> Interesting topic I must say.
> And Everyone is right!
> There is actually a thing called a "Lien Law" which is not directed  
> at Blind Pension per se.
> Worries about the lien law should not  influence the decision on  
> whether or not to purchase a house. There several reasons I say this.
> 1. The lien law effects anyone who receives any state assistance  
> including Temporary Assistance, Medicaid, Nursing Care Assistance,  
> Vocational Rehabilitation funding, RSB funding and possibily. As  
> Blind persons we have all received funding from RSB already.  
> IMPORTANT: the Missouri lien law only affects   only covers the  
> state portion of the funding as I understand it.
> 2. The state's ability to collect is hampered by the fact that they  
> are a lower level creditor in the order of payment. If memory serves  
> me they are seventh on the list. They will not, for instance try and  
> recoup if there is a living spouse. And, they cannot collect  to the  
> point that it leaves the remaining distitute. )(They can take a big  
> chunk.
> 3. The law applies not only to your house but your entire estate  
> including stocks, bonds, cash and bank accounts a fact that many  
> folks overlook.
> 4. Odds are you will sell the house before you die anyway. Bryan is  
> right that the house is excluded in figuring the $20,000 exemption  
> but the lien law makes no such provision it is simple in the fact it  
> states that the state shall have claim on any estate in which public  
> assistance dollars have been paid on the deceased.
> If there is sufficient interest I will research the law in depth  
> before the SSA seminar.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net 
> >
> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 4:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] blind pension
>
>
>> hi,
>>
>> i don't see how that could be true because owning a house is  
>> excluded /not counted when they check if your assets are less than  
>> 20k.
>>
>> Bryan Schulz
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dewey Bradley" <dewey.bradley at att.net 
>> >
>> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] blind pension
>>
>>
>>> O.K
>>> So do you know if if you own a house and you die and try to will  
>>> it to your child or spouse, Someone said that the state will take  
>>> it from them to get the money back that you were paid.
>>> I don't think that's true, but it might be.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net 
>>> >
>>> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] blind pension
>>>
>>>
>>>> hi,
>>>>
>>>> just what i said, if money is ever paid out from the bp case, say  
>>>> if a person was receiving monthly payments in the past and they  
>>>> are now deceased, their portion from the suit will not be given  
>>>> to their child, it will be returned to the suit pool.
>>>>
>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dewey Bradley" <dewey.bradley at att.net 
>>>> >
>>>> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:30 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] blind pension
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> what do you mean by that?
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net 
>>>>> >
>>>>> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:29 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] blind pension
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not too sure about your housing question but for cases where  
>>>>>> the bp case owes people from the past and the person is now  
>>>>>> deceased, their percentage of the lawsuit will not be given as  
>>>>>> inheritance, it will be returned to the pool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dewey Bradley" <dewey.bradley at att.net 
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> To: <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:35 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [Nfbmo] blind pension
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can anyone point me somewhere that I can understand the rules.
>>>>>>> Some people seam to think that if you get blind pension, and  
>>>>>>> when you die, the state will take your house to get back the  
>>>>>>> money, I don't think that is true, but I can't find the rules,  
>>>>>>> everyone has different ideas about the rules.
>>>>>>> Also I was told by someone yesterday that if you get a hud  
>>>>>>> vowlcher, that they will cut your pension back.
>>>>>>> I ask because I just got my hud vowlcher.
>>>>>>> So does anyone really know how the rules work, or can you tell  
>>>>>>> me where to look?
>>>>>>> I know that Missouri has some really confusing laws.
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> Dewey Bradley
>>>>>>> Springfield Missouri
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