[Nfbmo] KC Star Weighs in
James Moynihan
jamesmmoynihan at gmail.com
Thu Mar 22 20:20:58 UTC 2012
Matt
That was an excellent response.
Cordially,
Jim Moynihan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Sievert" <matt.sievert at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] KC Star Weighs in
> Bryan,
>
> In my opinion there is no reason that person would need a blind pension.
>
> I was asked by several people why I didn't inquire about the blind pension
> while living in Missouri. My response everytime was, " I don't need it,
> and I don't want it."
>
> It took me a long time to break the grip of SSI and I consider that a
> major accomplishment in my life.
>
> I am legally blind. I have a good job. I have health insurance, and I pay
> federal and state taxes to help those who need assistance.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> Sender: nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org
> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 23:55:42
> To: NFB of Missouri Mailing List<nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
> Reply-To: NFB of Missouri Mailing List <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] KC Star Weighs in
>
> hi,
>
> thank you for that explanation.
> Say a blind married person makes at least $50 or 60k per year and the
> sighted spouse receives, say $40 or 50k per year.
> can you give some reason as to why the person in this case is allowed to
> qualify for blind pension?
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gene Coulter
> To: NFB of Missouri Mailing List
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] KC Star Weighs in
>
>
>
> The statue you all are refering to actually talks about sighted parent
> or
> spouse. If a blind person has a sighted spouse or parent or spouse who
> can
> support the blind person they are not eligible for the pension.
> The reality is that if a blind person is single and lives with a sighted
> parent or married to a sighted person they are given a form to have the
> sighted person fill out, called Statement of Sighted Parent or spouse
> Support, with about a dozen questions to be completed. In practice it
> doesn’t
> matter how the person completes the form except the last two questions.
> The
> second to the last question asks something like do you provide support
> for
> this blind person?
> And, the last question is to the effect of if you do not provide
> support
> why not.
> If your spouse or parent answer the second to the last question “yes”
> you
> will not receive BP and will loose the hearing.
> And if you don’t answer the last question or put a poor reason like “I
> don’t
> feel like supporting him” you will also b denied. Generally just writing
> something like “He is responsible for his own bills” is good enough. Also
> if
> you write anything like I help him out or contribute a little money to
> help
> him out that will also result in denial.
> Hope this clears it up
> Gene
> From: Bryan Schulz
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:23 PM
> To: NFB of Missouri Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] KC Star Weighs in
>
> hi,
>
> are you sure about that?
> that line is in the statute and there is one case with that exact
> situation
> several people are aware of and both have significant income.
>
> Bryan Schulz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Debbie Wunder
> To: NFB of Missouri Mailing List
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 8:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] KC Star Weighs in
>
>
> Yes, I think you are right, it was very good! The only real thing I saw
> wrong was that the blind person could not have a sighted working
> spouse.
>
> Debbie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene Coulter" <escoulter at centurytel.net>
> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] KC Star Weighs in
>
>
> >I really like this article = we need more like it.
> >
> >
> > From: Gary Wunder
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 6:52 PM
> > To: nfbmo list
> > Subject: [Nfbmo] KC Star Weighs in
> >
> > I was interviewed briefly this morning. I think this reporter
> understands
> > that the House leadership has not fully disclosed both what they know
> and
> > what they don't care to know.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > s ago Missouri House budget is cruel and deceptive
> > Barb Shelly Barb Shelly
> > The Kansas City Star
> > Republicans in the Missouri House should be utterly ashamed of the
> budget
> > they passed late Tuesday, and the process they used to get there.
> > The $24 billion spending plan, which requires a final House vote
> before
> > going to the Senate, strips $28 million from a health care program
> used
> by
> > 2,800 blind Missourians whose income is too high to meet the state's
> very
> > low threshold for Medicaid coverage.
> > The House Appropriations Committee, chaired by Republican Ryan Silvey
> of
> > Kansas City, North, ended the decades-long health care program
> without
> > giving recipients the courtesy of a hearing, or bothering to find out
> who
> > these people are and why they need health care. Instead, defenders of
> the
> > atrocious move throw out red herrings.
> > In theory, someone could have a job with a high salary and still
> qualify
> > for
> > the health care program, they say. In theory, that's sort of right.
> All
> > the
> > state requires is that recipients' assets don't exceed $20,000, and
> that
> > they don't have spouses who are sighted and work.
> > In reality, though, a blind person with a good-paying job and health
> > benefits almost certainly isn't drawing from the state health-care
> > program.
> > The state requires that private insurance be used as the primary
> source
> of
> > care.
> > And most of the 2,800 recipients aren't so lucky. Missouri's blind
> > population has a 70 percent unemployment rate. Its health care needs
> are
> > expensive and acute. Many of the people on the state's health care
> plan
> > for
> > the blind have diabetes. Some need dialysis or expensive organ
> > anti-rejection medication. Many need medication for glaucoma.
> > They are in dire need of regular medical care and their chances of
> being
> > ensured on the individual market with these expensive pre-existing
> > conditions are just about zero. Ironically, the same GOP lawmakers
> who
> > want
> > to throw blind Missourians over the cliff are the same ones who
> > ceaselessly
> > oppose "Obamacare," which is the best hope for people with low
> incomes
> > and/or pre-existing conditions to gain affordable, market-based
> health
> > care.
> > Should the unbelievable occur and the 2,800 blind recipients actually
> lose
> > their health care, many would likely find their way to Missouri's
> > high-risk
> > insurance pool, meaning the state would continue to fund their health
> > care,
> > but through another channel.
> > Here's another red herring the Republicans are using: It's unfair to
> give
> > the blind a health-care benefit that people with other disabilities
> don't
> > get.
> > People with disabilities would be the first to tell you that they are
> a
> > diverse community, and cannot be lumped into one basket. And the
> state
> > responds to their needs in different ways. The developmentally
> disabled
> > and
> > severely physically disabled are eligible for Medicaid waivers and
> > services,
> > for instance.
> > I would challenge Silvey, or House Speaker Steve Tilley or any
> Republican
> > to
> > tell us who exactly are "the disabled," and explain why it's OK to
> cut
> off
> > aid for people with one incapacitating disability because everyone
> with
> > disabilities isn't receiving the same thing.
> > Silvey says it's necessary to cut aid to the blind because he refuses
> to
> > cut
> > any more money from the state's colleges and universities, as Gov.
> Jay
> > Nixon's budget recommends. But neither he nor any of the House GOP
> leaders
> > have mentioned the obvious: That if you're taking health care from
> the
> > blind
> > to fund universities, it's time to look for new sources of revenue.
> > GOP leaders have in common with the Missourians they would cast into
> the
> > cold a lack of vision. The difference is that theirs stems from the
> head
> > and
> > heart.
> >
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