[Nfbmo] Fw: A little long, but a good thing to read.

Wed May 23 13:25:05 UTC 2012

Dan:
I found both your comments and the original nostalgic and enjoyable.  I hate 
to say it, but some of this depends on where you lived.  I was born in 1945 
and I remember iceboxes.  Ice was delivered to your house or you picked it 
up at the icehouse in town.  We never had a clothes dryer until after I 
graduated from high school, which was in 1963. Anyone who takes their 
clothes to a laundromat does some clothes-hanging to this day.  It is 
cheaper and easier than carrying it all home.  Perhaps it is important to 
make young people understand what things used to be like, but Jim's story, 
though interesting did not tell the whole story.
Susan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <DanFlasar at aol.com>
To: <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] Fw: A little long, but a good thing to read.

> This post claims that the grandmother was born in  1952 and then goes
> through a list of things she didn't grow up with.    It's just not true.
>    I've seen this go around so many times that I can't  really let it go
> another time without clarifying it:
>
>
> television    television was invented in 1938 and made  significant 
> inroads
> into homes in the early 1950s.
> penicillin 'discovered' in  1928, it was purified and released in 1940 - 
> in
> common use in WWII
> polio  shots   Bogus - the early 50s were when polio shots were 
> introduced.
> frozen foods   mostly  true
> Xerox     True, though the electorstatic process was  known much earlier,
> but not in general use
> contact lenses     There were glass contacts available but they were
> expensive and painful -  true
> Frisbees    ...  ever heard of a  discus?
> the pill        True, not till the  60s though there were trials in the 
> 50s
>
> credit  cards      Diner's Card was introduced in the mid-50s,  as were
> department store cards
> laser beams or ...   true -  lasers were discovered in the early 60s
> ball-point  pens      Wrong - they were in use by the RAF in 1941  and 
> went
> on sale in 1945/  O ised the,om the 50s - they were given out as
> advetising gimmicks
> Man had not yet  invented:
> pantyhose         likely  true
> air conditioners     wrong - invented much earlier  but not in common use
> till the 50s in stores and homes much  later
> dishwashers   wrong again  they were available in  modern kitchens in the
> 50s
> clothes dryers    wrong again -  they were available in the 50s
> and the clothes were hung out to dry in the  fresh air and   - some still 
> do
> man hadn't yet walked on the  moon.   true  first moonwalk in 1969/
>
> Your Grandfather and  I got married first, and then lived together.
> undoubtedely true
> Every  family had a father and a mother.    except for those whose  father
> died in the war or the divorcees
> We were before  gay-rights,   Yes - it was perfectly okay to beat
> homosexuals up for any reason
> computer-dating,   True
> dual careers, ...   uh... ask Rosie the Riveter - a  lot of women never
> went back to the home after WWII
> daycare centers,    true
> and  group therapy.   No idea
> Our lives were governed by the Ten  Commandments, - as long as you were a
> Christian and/or believed in  God.  Plenty of atheists, agnostics as well 
> as
> Buddhist, Taoists,  Confusionists, Shintoists, Hindus and Muslims, not to
> mention Mormons. But no  Scientologists!
>
> good judgment,   ... hopefully
> and common  sense.   ... as long as  you agreed with the conventional
> wisdom.
>
> We were taught to know the difference between right and  wrong  ...  as
> people still are
>
> and to stand up and take responsibility for our actions ... except  for
> owning up to lynching,m segregation, spousal abuse and smearing the
> reputations of trade unionists during the anti-American hearings.
>
>
> Serving your country was a privilege; living in this country was a bigger
> privilege.  True then, true now
>
> Draft dodgers were those who closed  front doors as the evening breeze
> started.   - completely untrue -  term had been in use since the civil 
> war.  And
> there indeed were  conscientious objectors on religious and moral grounds
> throughout WWI and  WWII   - Quakers and 7th Day Adventists as well as
> pacifists.
>
> condominiums.   Probably right - the idea still sounds  bizarre
>
> We never heard of FM radios, tape decks, CD's,   true
> electric typewriters  ... nope, they began to emerge in the  later 50s
> yogurt,   ... unless you went to those strange and rare 'health  food'
> stores
> or guys wearing earrings.   - just pirates
> We listened to Big  Bands, Jack Benny  ... sorry this whole thing is about
> 10 years out of  date.  Jack Benny left the radio in the late 40s, though
> Big Bands are  still around.
>
> and the President's speeches on our radios... These began to be  carried
> on TV in the early 50s - they are still carried on radio
> And I don't  ever remember any kid blowing his brains out listening to
> Tommy Dorsey...
>    Lawrence Welk or Mantovani, perhaps....
> If  you saw anything with 'Made in Japan' on it, it was junk.  True till
> the  70s - at least for cars
> The term 'making out' referred to how you did on your  school exam.   -
> nope it's an old term traceable to the 20s
> Pizza  Hut,   ... true
> McDonald's,    First McDonald's were in CA in the  mid=50s.  They were
> common by 1958
> and instant coffee were unheard of.  Nope - instant coffee was a  WWII
> spin-off
> We had 5 &10-cent stores where you could actually buy  things for 5 and 10
> cents   - true, and I miss them!
> nickel  Ice-cream cones,  True
> nickel phone calls,    True, but not for long
> rides on a streetcar,   Streetcars had disappeared from most  cities by
> 1958 - buses took over at the same time as the rise of car ownership  in 
> the
> early 50s
> and a Pepsi were all a nickel.   true
> And if you didn't  want to splurge, you could spend your nickel on enough
> stamps to mail 1 letter  and 2  postcards. - true, but email was *really*
> expensive!
> You  could buy a new Ford Coupe for $600, but who could afford one? 
> Okay,
> this is something out of the 40s!   Very out of date for the  50s
> Too bad, because gas was 11 cents a gallon. - Actually, I saw it  cheaper
> in the 60s but true
> In my day:
> "grass" was mowed, - still  is
> "coke" was a cold drink,  - still is
> "pot" was something your  mother cooked in and  - still is
> "rock music" was your grandmother's  lullaby.   - Nope.  Rock music
> originated from the blues and  moved into white popular music in the early 
> 50s -
> see Carl Perkins and  Elvis Presley
> "Aids" were helpers in the Principal's office, - Yep - AIDS  didn't show 
> up
> until the mid '80s
> "chip" meant a piece of wood or ice that  the ice man brought, l- Pleas!!
> Icemen had disappeared in the30s!
>
> "hardware" was found in a hardware store and.   - still  is
> "software" wasn't even a word.     true
> And we  were the last generation to actually believe that a lady needed a
> husband to  have a baby...
> um...... she didn't actually need to have a *husband* then either..
>
>
> How old do you think she is?   Given the numerous anachronisms in  this
> post, she would have to have been born in the late 30s.   This  whole 
> thing is
> about 15 years out of date.  And I think I read it 20 years  ago and the
> lady was born in 1935
>
>
> I bet you have this old lady in mind. You are in for a  shock!    Nope
> to see -- pretty scary if you think about it and pretty sad at the same
> time.
> Scary no, sad, depends on how you remember the  50s.
>
>
> This woman would be only 59 years old, Born in 1952.
>
>
> THE YOUNG ONES WON'T BELIEVE IT     - I'm 62 and I  don't buy it either.
>
>
>
> I get that this is intended to exhibit  how the culture has changed, for
> the better and the worse in so many ways, but  it doesn't ring true for a 
> lot
> of people..   Human nature hasn't  changed at all.
>    And, aside from the anachronisms in the above list, it  may very well
> be true that this sweet young lady (I'm still older, damn it!) did  see 
> the
> world that way, then she was blessed.  And I guess I saw the world  that 
> way
> too.  Things change - but as always we depended on each other then  and we
> still do.
>
>      And someday, our grandkids will send  telepathic iMails about how
> they grew up before you could get 3D TV in the home,  that you could get 
> music
> from something called the web, there were only two  policial parties in 
> the
> US and there used to be something called winter, and  people only had one
> flying car per home.
>
> Dan
> Dan
>
>
>
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