[Nfbmo] The bus Saga Continues.
James Moynihan
jamesmmoynihan at gmail.com
Tue Feb 19 22:10:03 UTC 2013
Dan
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----- Original Message -----
From: <DanFlasar at aol.com>
To: <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] The bus Saga Continues.
> Jim,
> Nope. You're wrong. Free market capitalism is no more viable than
> communism. A mixed system preserves a reasonable protection for
> initiative,
> entrepreneurship and creativity while at the same time providing
> regulations to protect the environment, safety in the workplace, ensure
> the
> maintenance and construction of the public infrastructure and perform
> those things
> private organizations cannot enter without conflicts of interest. In
> this
> sense, the burden of providing health insurance should not be placed on
> the
> backs of businesses - it's crushing them - only the health insurance
> companies resist universal single-payer health insurance - for obvious
> reasons.
> We are falling behind other countries because they provide better health
> care to their citizens at a fraction of the cost of our system.
> Let business do what it does best and let our government provide the
> needed balance for everyone.
> And I hope that the GOP gets it's act together and purges the
> radicals - if they don't, there will only be the Democratic party - and
> even *I*
> don't want that.
> Dan
>
>
> In a message dated 2/18/2013 9:19:04 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> jamesmmoynihan at gmail.com writes:
>
> Dan
>
> Free market capitalism is the way to go. That is what made America great.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Jim Moynihan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <DanFlasar at aol.com>
> To: <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 3:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] The bus Saga Continues.
>
>
>> So much for the idea that the Free Market solves all problems.
>>
>> Without intervention by the will of the people (ie, our government),
>> free market capitalism leads inexorably to monopoly - which is why
>> government has had to intervene so continuously over the years - which
>> leads to too
>> much regulation which leads to too much deregulation which leads to...
>> You'd think we'd remember this.
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 2/15/2013 3:25:42 P.M. Central Standard Time,
>> dickmorris at netzero.net writes:
>>
>> Matt and Gary,
>>
>> At least Springfield and Columbia have bus stations in town! Matt, I
>> don't
>> know about where you are. But here in Tahlequah, the bus depot sits
>> abandoned; I don't know when the last bus rolled through here, but it
> was
>> before I came in 2004. Our closest bus station is Muskogee, about 25
>> miles
>> away, and taking a bus from there is like flying out of Springfield, in
>> that
>> you'll go to a "hub" city like Tulsa or OKC and change there. And Tulsa
>> is
>> sixty miles from here.
>>
>> Isn't deregulation wonderful? Just for grins, if you want an analysis
>> of
>> what deregulation has done to the airline industry, read Thomas
>> Petzinger's
>> Hard Landing. Petzinger writes for the Wall Street Journal, and the book
>> is
>> both interesting and readable.
>>
>> Dick
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Matt Sievert" <matt.sievert at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 3:10 PM
>> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] The bus Saga Continues.
>>
>> Now,
>>
>> Megabus and the michigan flyer have all been successes.
>>
>> Matt
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Gary Wunder" <gwunder at earthlink.net>
>> Sender: "Nfbmo" <nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:03:59
>> To: 'NFB of Missouri Mailing List'<nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>> Reply-To: NFB of Missouri Mailing List <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] The bus Saga Continues.
>>
>> When I sometimes ride the bus I get the impression they will run their
>> busses until they run no more and then they'll stop serving us all
>> together.
>> It is not the service-oriented company I used to ride regularly.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfbmo [mailto:nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dick Morris
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:59 PM
>> To: NFB of Missouri Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] The bus Saga Continues.
>>
>> Matt, the big problem with Greyhound is that they have had no real
>> competition ever since they acquired Continental Trailways in the early
>> 90s,
>> and thereby gutted the Trailways network. It reminds me of the old,
>> before
>> the breakup, AT&T commercial slogan, "We may be the only phone company
> in
>> town, but we try not to act like it." Epic fail on the parts of both
> AT&T
>> and Greyhound.
>>
>> Speaking of lack of competition, think of what air travel will be like
>> once
>> American and USAir complete their merger.
>>
>> Dick
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Matt Sievert" <matt.sievert at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 7:40 AM
>> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] The bus Saga Continues.
>>
>> Dick,
>>
>> Thank you for correcting me. Mrs. Cruise did the best she could with
>> the
>> bus
>> system. She even ran multiple buses on the same route during holiday
>> weekends, because the mall was so backed up. I never used access
> express,
>> because I didn't qualify, so I can't speak for that service.
>>
>> As for Norna Champion. She has a school and a park named after her.
>>
>> Greyhound is horrible for everyone. For blind people, for
>> servicemen/women
>> going to Fort Leonard, and everyone in between.
>>
>> Greyhound drives me to be a more successful person. So I can bypass
>> that
>> nastyness, by prtivate leased car trips or airline travel.
>>
>> I will NEVER advocate greyhound to anyone. They really don't care about
>> their customers.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Dick Morris" <dickmorris at netzero.net>
>> Sender: "Nfbmo" <nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 03:45:09
>> To: NFB of Missouri Mailing List<nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>> Reply-To: NFB of Missouri Mailing List <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] The bus Saga Continues.
>>
>> Matt, her name is Carol Cruise, and she has retired--but she was always
>> willing to listen to her customers. From what Gary tells me, the buses
>> are
>> full now, probably thanks to $3 gasoline.
>>
>> But...you are absolutely right about the "second class citizen"
> attitude.
>> Maybe you remember Dr. Norma Champion. I had her in several classes at
>> Evangel when I got my communications degree back in the dark ages. As
>> a
>> state senator, well...I was at a Jeff City seminar, I forget which
>> year,
>> and
>> of course I met with her to push NFB issues. One was a transit issue,
> and
>> her response was that public transit was for "someone like you". I
> think
>> I
>> bit my tongue till it bled. She was losing her vision due to macular
>> degeneration, but I never could get her to see our side of things. Sad
>> but
>> true.
>>
>> And which Greyhound station were you referring to? The old one on St.
>> Louis
>> or the new one on East Kearney? My problems were more with rude
>> Greyhound
>> drivers than anything else, but the last time I rode the bus, about a
>> year
>> ago, I had a good experience--except for a bus that was three hours
> late.
>> Oh, well...can't have everything.
>>
>> Dick
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Matt Sievert" <matt.sievert at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:11 PM
>> To: "NFB of Missouri Mailing List" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] The bus Saga Continues.
>>
>> Sigh,
>>
>> I am glad I am not in Springfield.
>>
>> Public Transportation in Springfield, Missouri has always been a
>> "second-class" citizen issue. "only poor people and the elderly ride
>> the
>> bus." is what I heard from most folks.
>>
>> Also seeing empty buses driving around town didn't help any either.
>>
>> Mary Cruse did a lot to help out the transit issue. I don't know where
>> she
>> went, but obviously by Gary's, account, things have not improved.
>>
>> The only thing worse in Springfield, Mo than the public transit system,
>> is
>> the Greyhound station.
>>
>> My primary means of transportation in Springfield, Mo was a cab or
>> walking.
>> Only when I worked at St. John's was the bus useful, that is because
> the
>> #2
>> S. National went past the hospital on weekdays, and the #5 went by on
>> weekends. Besides that, the bus was a headache I did not want.
>>
>> Matt Sievert
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Dick Morris <dickmorris at netzero.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good job, Erin and Gary! I wish I were still in Springfield so I could
>>> be
>>> part of this. You're dooing the right thing in trying to garner
>> publicity;
>>> sometimes the only way to get action is to embarrass somebody. Go for
>> it!
>>>
>>> Dick
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Magoon Erin" <magoone at gary-springfield-mo.net>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:11 PM
>>> To: <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [Nfbmo] The bus Saga Continues.
>>>
>>> The Bus Saga Continues.
>>>
>>> Gary and I went to the City Council meeting on Monday. He spoke about
>> the
>>> fixed route buses and I spoke about Access Express. Access is the
>>> para-transit door to door service that I'm riding for now because of
> my
>>> surgery last October.
>>>
>>> It is getting pretty rediculous trying to get a ride on Access. They
>> will
>>> only let you schedule a ride up to one week in advance and it's
>>> getting
>>> difficult to do so. They also have a 20 minute window either side of
>> your
>>> pick-up to come and get you. I had a pickup at 6:00 pm and they
> didn't
>>> have
>>> the person come on duty who was going to get me until 5:55 so he
>>> didn't
>>> arrive until 6:20.
>>>
>>> I had another person drop me off at the wrong entrance to my building
> in
>>> my
>>> apaartment complex. I couldn't get a ride home from my job developer
>> until
>>> two hours after the end of my appointment. I couldn't get a ride home
>>> from
>>> the gym at all, I could get there but not home. I also called one
>>> week
>> in
>>> advance of the City Council meeting to schedule my ride. I scheduled
> it
>>> for
>>> 10:30 pm because I didn't know how long the meeting would go and they
>>> set
>>> it
>>> up. The lady called me back ten minutes later and said she looked at
>>> the
>>> schedule wrong. "It's written in military time and I have trouble
>> reading
>>> and understanding it. The latest we can get you is 8:30 not 10:30."
>>>
>>> I told the Council most of what I've just told you and they sent the
>>> following questions to City Utilities telling them they wanted answers
>> by
>>> Friday, February 22.
>>>
>>> 1. Why did you make the bus route changes?
>>> 2. Why didn't you have the schedules and maps ready before the changes
>>> took
>>> effect?
>>> 3. Why didn't you hold a public hearing or have public comments before
>> you
>>> made the changes?
>>> 4. Why did the routes change 3 and 4 times after you made the original
>>> changes?
>>> 5. Is it true that you didn't want the passengers to know the changes
>> were
>>> coming? If so, why not?
>>> 6. Why are people having so many difficulties scheduling an Access
>> Express
>>> ride 6 and 7 days in advance?
>>>
>>> I called the City Council yesterday to find out what was the next
>>> step,
>>> that's when I got told those questions were sent to City Utilities and
>>> as
>>> soon as they received a response they'd call me.
>>>
>>> Today a reporter from The Springfield Newsleader called. He talked
>>> to
>>> both
>>> me and Gary about what has been going on. I told him all about Access
>> and
>>> that some of the buses arrive downtown five minutes early now because
> of
>>> the
>>> new schedule, and the bus route that was added sits in the Social
>> Security
>>> parking lot for 15 minutes. No one has explained why this is.
>>>
>>> The paper got a report from City Utilities telling them that the
>>> number
>> of
>>> riders on Access has increased and that they have 5 buses. I told the
>>> reporter that several people I have spoken to said they are taking
>>> Access
>>> because of all the route changes.
>>>
>>> He said that City Utilities has responded to City Council and said:
>>> "We
>>> should have had the bus maps and schedules available when we made the
>>> route
>>> changes, we will hold public hearings in the future for any change we
>> want
>>> to make whether it's small or big."
>>>
>>> I noticed that they didn't answer any of the questions City Council
>> asked.
>>>
>>> The article is supposed to run in tomorrow's paper. I hope it makes a
>>> difference.
>>>
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