[Nfbmo] State convention past and future

Tue Mar 31 14:55:18 UTC 2015

I don't think the choosing of counters or the person passing the box took 
that much time, but that could be done in advance. The counters and box 
passer do not have to be sighted; however in the case of a standing vote 
this would probably be a little more helpful. There should also be counters 
for each candidate and not just one. In public elections it is not just one 
party doing the counting.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Julie McGinnity via Nfbmo
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 5:38 PM
To: Diana Aubuchon ; NFB of Missouri Mailing List
Cc: Gary Wunder
Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] State convention past and future

Hi all,   I agree with many of the comments already made here.  I found that 
the hotel was understaffed but very nice.  We never got our room cleaned on 
Friday.  Maybe they were a little over helpful, but they never imposed 
themselves upon me.  I loved the guide dog relief area, and I was so 
grateful that Gene worked with the hotel to make that happen so nicely.  I 
thought the sound system was fantastic.  I remember in years past when we 
struggled with mics and loudness.   Gene, as always, did an excellent job. 
The Lewis and Clark were awesome hosts.   As for the secret ballot issue. 
Lets get two boxes, and perhaps the nominating committee should choose our 
counters and box passers ahead of time.

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> On Mar 30, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Diana Aubuchon via Nfbmo <nfbmo at nfbnet.org> 
> wrote:
>
>    Gary and others,
>
>    Another reason in the past for the secret ballot was due to the fear by 
> some that how they voted would affect other aspects of their lives, 
> especially concerning the American Council of the Blind and Services for 
> the Blind. Some higher ups believed the blind should only have certain 
> views; if you did not tow the line you suffered in various ways.
>
>    Diana  :  )
> --------------------------------------------
> On Mon, 3/30/15, Gary Wunder via Nfbmo <nfbmo at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] State convention past and future
> To: "'Bryan Schulz'" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>, "'NFB of Missouri Mailing 
> List'" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Monday, March 30, 2015, 3:36 PM
>
> Hi, Brian. I agree with
> you about Julia. What an outstanding personality and good
> service.
>
> I think we should
> discuss the issue of the secret ballot at the board meeting.
> I don't remember whether it exists in the Constitution
> or whether it is simply a matter of long-standing tradition,
> but I will have researched the matter by the board meeting
> and we can talk about this. The difficulty with your
> suggestion, of course, is that the person wanting a secret
> ballot will have forfeited any secrecy by standing. There
> were times in the 1970s when people were chastised about
> their votes when they returned to chapter meetings, the
> suggestion being that if the chapter had decided to throw
> its support behind one person, they were obligated as
> individual chapter members to vote accordingly. There were
> people who were pulled back into their chairs and told they
> were voting the wrong way. I think this is one of the things
> that helped to make the secret ballot attractive. If a
> secret ballot is to remain one of the rights of convention
> attendees, we can speed the process by dividing the room and
> using two boxes.
>
> I'd be
> glad to hear the opinions of others, and I think we should
> put this on the board agenda for May.
>
> Warmly,
>
> Gary
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz via Nfbmo
> Sent:
> Monday, March 30, 2015 2:36 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] State convention past and
> future
>
> Hi,
>
> It probably depends on what
> time you ate and the capacity at the time.
> Julia at the restaurant was very helpful and
> the buffet was par for max capacity style of allowing people
> to eat quickly.
> Gene managed the surprises
> well but people need to spend more time listening as the
> first person spreading the news of the banquet delay turned
> from you can wait for the wedding party to clear out and
> have a drink where your meeting was located was explained as
> the couple getting married said we can have free drinks and
> now the banquet will be on floor two.
> It
> would be nice if any request for a secret vote includes a
> mandatory standing vote attempt first.
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of David Hertweck via Nfbmo
> Sent:
> Monday, March 30, 2015 12:17 PM
> To: Gary
> Wunder; NFB of Missouri Mailing List
> Cc:
> Eugene S Coulter
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmo] State
> convention past and future
>
> Personally I thought the service was poor and
> the food was horrible
>
> Sent
> from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar
> 30, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Gary Wunder via Nfbmo <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> I got a
> survey from the Sheraton and completed it. I liked the
> staff; there weren't enough of them. They did not get me
> in a room with a king size bed, nor did they get Erin Magoon
> in a room with two beds. This we were able to work out, and
> they were good about it.
>>
>> I think that they were very shortstaffed
> when it came to housekeeping and that the wait staff at the
> restaurant was really overworked. I didn't find one
> disagreeable staff member, but I did find myself feeling
> sorry for them.
>>
>> I
> found my room comfortable, but I thought the closet was very
> small given places I usually stay. I was placed in a
> handicapped accessible room, and it was impossible to take a
> shower without getting water outside the shower area.
>>
>> I was uncertain when
> it came to the question about whether or not I would
> recommend them.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfbmo [mailto:nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Eugene S Coulter via Nfbmo
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 9:10 PM
> To: NFB of Missouri Mailing List
> Subject: [Nfbmo] State convention past and future
>>
>> If anyone has
> constructive feedback regarding this year’s convention
> facilities please make me aware of your concerns.
>> Also,at the May board meeting I will
> request  authorization to seek bids for the 2017
> convention
>>
>> In
> normal rotation that would be Kansas City. However, I am not
> assuming that they are only possibility. For example, our
> Show Me Chapter or  South Central Chapter may wish to host.
> Or, maybe those two chapters would want to cohost  perhaps
> in Rolla. Of course, Show Me could host anywhere in the
> state. I write this now to give folks a chance to think
> about things and the feasibility of  any such hosting.
>> I just do not want to assume  that we
> have a closed loop of 5 chapters.
> Gene
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