[NFBMO] Transition to Blindness call tonight

Jenny Carmack jcarmack314 at gmail.com
Tue Feb 20 04:05:52 UTC 2018


Hi gary,

I think that most people who participate on the call who have had
enough vision to answer your questions would be glad to help.

Although I used to have  some usable vision I was not aware of how
body language effects communication for sighted folks.  It was not
until I was in college  when I read in a textbook that people react to
the way in which one carries themselves, facial expressions, and eye
contact.  By that time I had a lot of habits to break and some new
ones to learn.  imagine if I would have been taught this an earlier
age.

well, anyway I am kind of rambling.  I say that to tell you that I
know the kind of thing you are talking about.

However, I am not the go to person for style and matching.  I think
that matching clothes  is a matter of personal preference to some
degree.  kind of like preparing meals.  Everyone seems to have a
different thought about what foods should or should not  be eaten
together.  Those thoughts and opinions seem to vary from person to
person, family to family, and generation to generation. I think that
style and matching is kind of like that as well.  There may be some
definite dos and don'ts.  Someone who is a little more into fashion
could probably address this better than I can.

As far as explaining color to someone who has never had vision, well
that may be a bit challenging.  There are so many different colors and
every color has a variety of shades.  I suppose that anything is
possible if you have a great imagination and a person who has great
description skills.

I am not sure if I am making any sense.  Hopefully someone else chimes
in on this.

Have a great night
Jenny

On 2/16/18, Gary Wunder via NFBMO <nfbmo at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I really like the transition to blindness calls, and I wonder if some of
> the
> folks who are new to blindness could help some of us who have never had
> vision. I am involved in another discussion about what blind people can
> learn about visual concepts such as color and certain mannerisms sighted
> people take for granted in their daily interaction with others. It seems to
> me that I have an obligation to learn anything I really can learn that will
> increase my integration with sighted people. It also seems that I should
> put
> my energy where it is likely to do some good, and if there are things which
> are beyond my ability to learn, then I should concentrate my energy
> elsewhere. With the complicated patterns that go into matching close, is
> this something I can learn? If I can't really learn it, can I make up a
> comprehensive list? To me, colors are just words. Add in patterns and
> shades, and I'm really lost. I value the way I look and hence the way I
> dress, but without understanding the underlying concepts of color and
> patterns and shades, can I keep up with fashion and decide these things on
> my own, or is my role limited to gathering a cadre of trusted advisors,
> having them help me make my purchases, and then devising a system so that I
> make sure that what I wear matches based on what I've been told?
>
> One of the reasons that the transition to blindness call might be
> particularly helpful is that most of you have seen. Can you help figure out
> words that describe colors in such a way that I will understand them in the
> same way that I understand how musical notes go together? On the other
> hand,
> after you give it significant thought, will you conclude that understanding
> colors is so foreign to the experience that I have had that I should put my
> effort into a system for labeling that prevents me from going out looking
> like a doofus?
>
> I know this isn't as interesting as HR 620, but I certainly would find it
> helpful.
>
> Warmly,
>
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFBMO [mailto:nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenny Carmack
> via
> NFBMO
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 11:56 AM
> To: nfbmo at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Jenny Carmack
> Subject: [NFBMO] Transition to Blindness call tonight
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am sending this message on behalf of Debbie Wunder.  There will be a
>  transition to blindness call tonight at 8 PM.  Anyone is welcome to
> join in on this call.  We all grow and learn from one another on this
> call and everyone has valuable input to share.
>
> The call in number is: 605-468-8005
> the pass code is: 1774
>
> I look forward to talking with you all tonight.
>
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