[NFBMO] Blind Pension Legislation

Tue May 22 22:02:24 UTC 2018

If I understand it correctly, there has been some fraud involved by some
non-blind individuals.  I also believe that these fraud numbers have also
been exaggerated.  This is not a legislative issue and should have never
been resolved with legislation, this is a law enforcement issue and should
have been resolved there.  The perpetrators of these crimes including any
physicians that falsified documentation should be prosecuted to the full
extent of the law.

As with so many other issues where laws are already on the books but the
enforcement of those laws are not being done.  That should be our focus
with the lawmakers, freak them out by saying that we agree with them,
people who legitimately receive blind pension shouldn't have the ability to
move a car from one parking spot to another, much less drive it across
town.  If you find someone driving and receiving Mo Blind Pension,
PROSECUTE THEM!  There is NO need for any new laws.

Just my thoughts,
Randy Carmack

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Coccovizzo,Linda A via NFBMO <
nfbmo at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Somehow in an investigation, it was found that a certain number of blind
> pension recipients had drivers licenses, so I imagine it wouldn't be too
> difficult to implement investigating applicants to see if they have a
> license or state ID. I know it will never happen, but I would love to see
> the results of the investigation that supposedly prompted the creation of
> the bill. I can't help but wonder if the numbers weren't exaggerated ever
> so slightly. Then articles were written about it in various papers when the
> bill was created. I don't doubt that this stuff creates a certain amount of
> resentment of the blind by citizens who read the papers, and it's not as if
> people really do their research to find out what blind pension is all about
> before they make judgements when they see blind people out and about. And,
> this bill was one of a few attempts at retaliation against blind
> pensioners. It just happens to be the first one to be successful in passing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFBMO <nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Brian Wekamp via NFBMO
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 3:16 PM
> To: 'NFB of Missouri Mailing List' <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: b_wekamp at mediacombb.net
> Subject: Re: [NFBMO] Blind Pension Legislation
>
> Hello:
>
> How would Fsd enforce the statute that you have to surrender your drivers
> license and get a State issued Id card.
>
>
> Brian Wekamp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFBMO <nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Carol Coulter via
> NFBMO
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 3:45 PM
> To: NFB of Missouri Mailing List <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Carol Coulter <cjcoulter59 at gmail.com>; Bryan Schulz <
> b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [NFBMO] Blind Pension Legislation
>
> Blind pension was never based on how much the blind individual made but
> rather your resources. So if you are spending what you are making and not
> holding over a certain amount in some sort of savings you are fine. I am
> sure Gene C. will correct me if I am wrong. The only down fall to this is,
> being able to save for a down payment on a home or putting away for your
> kids college education. However, we shouldn't complain too much and be
> happy we have what we have.The driver's license doesn't bother me because
> blind people shouldn't be driving. They should give you some time to switch
> forms of ID. Changing whether to give raises or not should remain the same
> after all I thought that is what started this whole thing in the first
> place, the figuring out of the payments.
>
> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 8:07 PM, Bryan Schulz via NFBMO <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > What retaliation?
> > It's common sense.
> > Why should you be allowed to have a drivers license if your vision is
> > poor enough to qualify for blind pension?
> > A spouse can still make 82k and the spouse still gets to keep
> > receiving blind pension?
> > A stl state employee made about 50k for years and still received blind
> > pension, all she had to do is lie on the annual form.
> > Bryan
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NFBMO <nfbmo-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Roger Crome via
> > NFBMO
> > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 12:43 PM
> > To: NFB of Missouri Mailing List <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Roger Crome <r_crome1 at msn.com>
> > Subject: Re: [NFBMO] Blind Pension Legislation
> >
> > Yep, definite retaliation for the lawsuit.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On May 18, 2018, at 10:03 PM, Gene Coulter via NFBMO
> > > <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > HB 2171, the Blind Pension bill, was truly agreed to and finally
> > > passed late on Thursday.
> > >
> > > The amendments include the 500% poverty limit for a sighted spouse
> > > and forbid the recipients from having a drivers license among other
> items.
> > >
> > > Gene
> > >
> > >
> > >
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