[Nfbmt] [NFB] A Crisis of Public Transportation in Montana... and its real impact on NFB of Montana's upcoming state convention
Edward Robbins
ecrobbins517 at gmail.com
Wed Aug 21 23:05:57 UTC 2013
Just to clarify my post:
Travel Missoula to Billings, doesn't get you into Billings until after 5 pm
the day you travel, thus the need to travel the day before convention
begins.
Travel Billings to Missoula. Leaves Billings at 1:30 pm, arrive in Missoula
about 7 pm.
Hope this helps.
Ted
EDWARD C "TED" ROBBINS
, CEO MBEI, Treasurer NFB of Montana & MANAGER MAB EQUIPMENT PROGRAM
PHONE & FAX: 406 453 6678, CELL: 406 799 6268
104 RIVERVIEW 5 E
GREAT FALLS MT 59404
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What I read was it was an over night travel.
That was what I wouldn't do.
Being concerned for folks who go to work on Monday.
Original message:
> Travel from Billings to Missoula, depart at 1:30, arrive in Missoula
> about 7 pm, so that really isn't an issue.
> Ted
> EDWARD C "TED" ROBBINS
> , CEO MBEI, Treasurer NFB of Montana & MANAGER MAB EQUIPMENT PROGRAM
> PHONE & FAX: 406 453 6678, CELL: 406 799 6268
> 104 RIVERVIEW 5 E
> GREAT FALLS MT 59404
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:53 PM
> To: nfbmt at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] [NFB] A Crisis of Public Transportation in Montana...
> and its real impact on NFB of Montana's upcoming state convention
> Good heavens,
> If it were me, I would stay home than to do an over nighter just to
> get to Billings, and then have to do the same thing to get home again
> after convention.
> How dreadful is this?
> Who was the clown to dream up this one?
> Original message:
>> FYI, the buses will still be running, Missoula-Billings. Currently
>> price is
>> $136 with 14 day advance purchase. Draw back is having to travel on
>> Thursday to get there before 6 pm Friday.
>> Ideas to think about.
>> Ted
>> EDWARD C "TED" ROBBINS
>> , CEO MBEI, Treasurer NFB of Montana & MANAGER MAB EQUIPMENT PROGRAM
>> PHONE & FAX: 406 453 6678, CELL: 406 799 6268
>> 104 RIVERVIEW 5 E
>> GREAT FALLS MT 59404
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> lindazh2 at juno.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:09 PM
>> To: nfbmt at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] [NFB] A Crisis of Public Transportation in
Montana...
>> and its real impact on NFB of Montana's upcoming state convention
>> Hi again everyone - Since Ted is making this great offer out of Great
>> Falls, I'll change my offer to be Helena and Missoula. Rent the van
>> out of Helena and drive to Missoula to pick up those people, then on
>> to Billings along I90. I have not yet checked on van prices in Helena
>> but they will probably be much the same as what Ted said. Open to any
>> other offers. Linda
>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>> From: "Edward Robbins" <ecrobbins517 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NFB of Montana Discussion List'" <nfbmt at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] [NFB] A Crisis of Public Transportation in
Montana...
>> and its real impact on NFB of Montana's upcoming state convention
>> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:38:48 -0600
>> Since notice of no busses out of GT Falls, I have been doing some
>> looking into the costs. To rent a van in GTF, for three days, the
>> cost for a 15 passenger van, quoted was $99 per day. Gas would
>> probably run close to $130.00. With possible other costs for the
>> rental such as insurance, it might run another $50-$75. Anna said
>> she would drive, (She has always enjoyed driving vans), we would pick
>> it up friday morning, arrive in Billings around noon.
>> Cost would be spread among those traveling from Great Falls. With
>> total cost approximately $480.00, net to each, if 7 travel from Great
>> Falls, would be about $70 per person. (Anna & I would be willing to
>> share this cost, even though with our prius we could do it for $37 in
> gas).
>> We thought to look at a 15 passenger van because of possibly having
>> 4 dogs and 7 people. if fuer dogs or people travel, we possibly
>> could rent a "mini" van. (don't know how much this would cost, but
>> gas mileage would be better. We would need to have a committment
>> about 30 days before travel, to get the bigger van to Great falls.
>> (coming out of Billings. If any one has more/better information or
>> ideas, please
> post.
>> Ted
>> EDWARD C "TED" ROBBINS
>> , CEO MBEI, Treasurer NFB of Montana & MANAGER MAB EQUIPMENT PROGRAM
>> PHONE &
>> FAX: 406 453 6678, CELL: 406 799 6268
>> 104 RIVERVIEW 5 E
>> GREAT FALLS MT 59404
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 7:37 PM
>> To: nfbmt at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] [NFB] A Crisis of Public Transportation in
Montana...
>> and its real impact on NFB of Montana's upcoming state convention
>> I was asking Jim if he would want to contact Ed Heron.
>> I don't have the correct spelling, just a thought.
>> Ed is working with seven day Adventist.
>> Just some thoughts.
>> Original message:
>>> Hey Rik and all, the state convention in Billings is October 25-26
>>> and probably the morning of the 27th. I don't know yet what is
>>> going to happen Friday the 25th that might mean some of us will need
>>> to get there Thursday the 24th. Depends on the transportation
>>> options, I guess, assuming there are any. LOL I think it would be
>>> cool if we could somehow hire or rent a van or a small bus.
>>> I think in all the mess about the bus schedules that the one going
>>> through Bozeman to Billings will still be running. It's the
>>> connections from Great Falls and maybe Helena and Missoula that are
>>> in jeopardy.
>>> Joy
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rik James
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 2:21 PM
>>> To: NFB of Montana Discussion List
>>> Subject: [Nfbmt] A Crisis of Public Transportation in Montana... and
>>> its real impact on NFB of Montana's upcoming state convention
>>> First, this stunning revelation as brought to our attention. Thanks,
>>> Joy, and others.
>>> Montana and North Dakota Intercity Bus Status
>>> http://mtndintercity.wordpress.com/
>>> Dear NFB of Montana members and officers.
>>> I have just now been reading the posts on the discussion list about
>>> the loss of bus transportation between our cities here in Montana.
>>> I feel that this is quite a crisis. Of course it is for some, more
>>> of a crisis than for others. But if even one of those wishing to
>>> attend the state convention, or for any other type of travel needs,
>>> this issue will hardly be noticed, by anyone other than those who
>>> are affected, unless it gets more in the press. And the way it gets
>>> in the press if its impact can be demonstrated in real terms. I
>>> have the opinion that more and more of these type of circumstances
>>> are very likely to occur, leaving many without means to be at an
>>> ever worse
>> disadvantage.
>>> So, then, what?
>>> What is it that we can do besides try and change things by complaining?
>>> Probably not too much. But it is likely that the complaining
>>> probably will not help much either. And that is because, frankly, we
>>> as blind folks in Montana do not really travel as much as we even
>>> used to. I think. I don't know, but I would wonder if this is not true.
>>> And whatever our needs, or in any case, we are not large enough of a
>>> population to really be much of a dollar amount, as part of the
>>> great loss in revenue that the bus services have been experiencing.
>>> Still, I would not wonder if more Montanans are made aware by some
>>> news coverage, perhaps some members of the public might identify it
>>> as an issue and something could happen to improve on the situation.
>>> Kind of unlikely, but hey, if it is in the news, it can at least
>>> have more of the benefit of attention.
>>> So, my thoughts are these.
>>> The biggest situation for us is our immediate needs for members
>>> around Montana to get to the city of Billings for the September
>>> state
>> convention.
>>> What is the weekend date again?
>>> I am plum sorry, but I can t find it. Is it September 20?
>>> Anyway. We need to figure out how big of a number of persons that
>>> is, and where they each are. And then try and figure out how or what
>>> we might be able to do to help out.
>>> And IF we are going to do something, then we need to get a plan
>>> together pretty soon.
>>> The information needed:
>>> First, who wants to come and needs a ride?
>>> If we get this list together, then can we clump these folks in and
>>> get folks to pool resources together, and schedule some, maybe like
>>> 3 routes, of transportation? Perhaps by renting vehicles and hiring
> drivers?
>>> Member list.
>>> Phone tree.
>>> List of possible convention travellers.
>>> Estimates of costs, decision of an adopted plan, and then its
>> implementation.
>>> That is my wee flurry of thoughts. The big picture guy. The laying
>>> sideways under the apple tree dreamer, and your friend, Rik.
>>> But I very well may be sideways not knowing one end of the tree
>>> branch from the very core of the apple. So do some talking, and put
>>> on your thinking caps, everyone. Let's get us all to Billings, by
>>> hook and by cup of sweet cider.
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