[Nfbmt] [NFB] A Crisis of Public Transportation in Montana... and its real impact on NFB of Montana's upcoming state convention

d m gina dmgina at samobile.net
Wed Aug 21 22:55:36 UTC 2013


What I read was it was an over night travel.
That was what I wouldn't do.
Being concerned for folks who go to work on Monday.

Original message:
> Travel from Billings to Missoula, depart at 1:30, arrive in Missoula about 7
> pm, so that really isn't an issue.
> Ted

> EDWARD C "TED" ROBBINS
> , CEO MBEI, Treasurer NFB of Montana & MANAGER MAB EQUIPMENT PROGRAM
> PHONE & FAX:  406 453 6678, CELL:  406 799 6268
> 104 RIVERVIEW 5 E
> GREAT FALLS  MT   59404


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:53 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] [NFB] A Crisis of Public Transportation in Montana...
> and its real impact on NFB of Montana's upcoming state convention

> Good heavens,
> If it were me, I would stay home than to do an over nighter just to get to
> Billings, and then have to do the same thing to get home again after
> convention.
> How dreadful is this?
> Who was the clown to dream up this one?

> Original message:
>> FYI, the buses will still be running, Missoula-Billings.  Currently
>> price is
>> $136 with 14 day advance purchase.  Draw back is having to travel on
>> Thursday to get there before 6 pm Friday.
>>         Ideas to think about.
>> Ted
>> EDWARD C "TED" ROBBINS
>> , CEO MBEI, Treasurer NFB of Montana & MANAGER MAB EQUIPMENT PROGRAM
>> PHONE & FAX:  406 453 6678, CELL:  406 799 6268
>> 104 RIVERVIEW 5 E
>> GREAT FALLS  MT   59404

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> lindazh2 at juno.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:09 PM
>> To: nfbmt at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] [NFB] A Crisis of Public Transportation in Montana...
>> and its real impact on NFB of Montana's upcoming state convention

>> Hi again everyone - Since Ted is making this great offer out of Great
>> Falls, I'll change my offer to be Helena and Missoula. Rent the van
>> out of Helena and drive to Missoula to pick up those people, then on
>> to Billings along I90. I have not yet checked on van prices in Helena
>> but they will probably be much the same as what Ted said. Open to any
>> other offers. Linda

>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>> From: "Edward Robbins" <ecrobbins517 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NFB of Montana Discussion List'" <nfbmt at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] [NFB] A Crisis of Public Transportation in Montana...
>> and its real impact on NFB of Montana's upcoming state convention
>> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:38:48 -0600

>> Since notice of no busses out of GT Falls, I have been doing some
>> looking into the costs.  To rent a van in GTF, for three days, the
>> cost for a 15 passenger van, quoted was $99 per day.  Gas would
>> probably run close to $130.00.  With possible other costs for the
>> rental such as insurance, it might run another $50-$75.  Anna said she
>> would drive, (She has always enjoyed driving vans), we would pick it
>> up friday morning, arrive in Billings around noon.
>> Cost would be spread among those traveling from Great Falls.  With
>> total cost approximately $480.00, net to each, if 7 travel from Great
>> Falls, would be about $70 per person.  (Anna & I would be willing to
>> share this cost, even though with our prius we could do it for $37 in
> gas).
>>  We thought to look at a 15 passenger van because of possibly having 4
>> dogs and 7 people.  if fuer dogs or people travel, we possibly could
>> rent a "mini" van.  (don't know how much this would cost, but gas
>> mileage would be better.  We would need to have a committment about 30
>> days before travel, to get the bigger van to Great falls.  (coming out
>> of Billings.  If any one has more/better  information or ideas, please
> post.
>> Ted

>> EDWARD C "TED" ROBBINS
>> , CEO MBEI, Treasurer NFB of Montana & MANAGER MAB EQUIPMENT PROGRAM
>> PHONE &
>> FAX:  406 453 6678, CELL:  406 799 6268
>> 104 RIVERVIEW 5 E
>> GREAT FALLS  MT   59404


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 7:37 PM
>> To: nfbmt at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] [NFB] A Crisis of Public Transportation in Montana...
>> and its real impact on NFB of Montana's upcoming state convention

>> I was asking Jim if he would want to contact Ed Heron.
>> I don't have the correct spelling, just a thought.
>> Ed is working with seven day Adventist.
>> Just some thoughts.

>> Original message:
>>> Hey Rik and all, the state convention in Billings is October 25-26
>>> and probably the morning of the 27th.  I don't know yet what is going
>>> to happen Friday the 25th that might mean some of us will need to get
>>> there Thursday the 24th.  Depends on the transportation options, I
>>> guess, assuming there are any.  LOL I think it would be cool if we
>>> could somehow hire or rent a van or a small bus.

>>> I think in all the mess about the bus schedules that the one going
>>> through Bozeman to Billings will still be running.  It's the
>>> connections from Great Falls and maybe Helena and Missoula that are
>>> in jeopardy.

>>> Joy

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rik James
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 2:21 PM
>>> To: NFB of Montana Discussion List
>>> Subject: [Nfbmt] A Crisis of Public Transportation in Montana... and
>>> its real impact on NFB of Montana's upcoming state convention


>>> First, this stunning revelation as brought to our attention. Thanks,
>>> Joy, and others.
>>> Montana and North Dakota Intercity Bus Status

>>> http://mtndintercity.wordpress.com/

>>> Dear NFB of Montana members and officers.

>>> I have just now been reading the posts on the discussion list about
>>> the loss of bus transportation between our cities here in Montana.

>>> I feel that this is quite a crisis. Of course it is for some, more of
>>> a crisis than for others. But if even one of those wishing to attend
>>> the state convention, or for any other type of travel needs, this
>>> issue will hardly be noticed, by anyone other than those who are
>>> affected, unless it gets more in the press.  And the way it gets in
>>> the press if its impact can be demonstrated in real terms.  I have
>>> the opinion that more and more of these type of circumstances are
>>> very likely to occur, leaving many without means to be at an ever
>>> worse
>> disadvantage.

>>> So, then, what?
>>> What is it that we can do besides try and change things by complaining?
>>> Probably not too much. But it is likely that the complaining probably
>>> will not help much either. And that is because, frankly, we as blind
>>> folks in Montana do not really travel as much as we even used to.  I
>>> think. I don't know, but I would wonder if this is not true.

>>> And whatever our needs, or in any case, we are not large enough of a
>>> population to really be much of a dollar amount, as part of the great
>>> loss in revenue that the bus services have been experiencing.  Still,
>>> I would not wonder if more Montanans are made aware by some news
>>> coverage, perhaps some members of the public might identify it as an
>>> issue and something could happen to improve on the situation. Kind of
>>> unlikely, but hey, if it is in the news, it can at least have more of
>>> the benefit of attention.

>>> So, my thoughts are these.
>>> The biggest situation for us is our immediate  needs for members
>>> around Montana to get to the city of Billings for the September state
>> convention.
>>> What is the weekend date again?
>>> I am plum sorry, but I can t find it. Is it September 20?
>>> Anyway. We need to figure out how big of a number of persons that is,
>>> and where they each are. And then try and figure out how or what we
>>> might be able to do to help out.

>>> And IF we are going to do something, then we need to get a plan
>>> together pretty soon.

>>> The information needed:
>>> First, who wants to come and needs a ride?
>>> If we get this list together, then can we clump these folks in and
>>> get folks to pool resources together, and schedule some, maybe like 3
>>> routes, of transportation? Perhaps by renting vehicles and hiring
> drivers?

>>> Member list.
>>> Phone tree.
>>> List of possible convention travellers.
>>> Estimates of costs, decision of an adopted plan, and then its
>> implementation.

>>> That is my wee flurry of thoughts. The big picture guy. The laying
>>> sideways under the apple tree dreamer, and your friend, Rik.
>>> But I very well may be sideways not knowing one end of the tree
>>> branch from the very core of the apple. So do some talking, and put
>>> on your thinking caps, everyone. Let's get us all to Billings, by
>>> hook and by cup of sweet cider.
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