[Nfbmt] FCC Chooses to Approve the Waiver for E-book Readers for One Year
Rebecca Stewart
becca33 at bresnan.net
Thu Feb 13 05:13:35 UTC 2014
OK, I stand corrected. I haven't gotten far enough in my endeavor to get
signed up to get to the point where I have to pay for it but even though,
that is very cheap for all those audio books.
-----Original Message-----
From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of sheila
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 1:58 PM
To: NFB of Montana Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] FCC Chooses to Approve the Waiver for E-book Readers
for One Year
as far as I know booksharefor the first year is seventy fine dollars and
fifty dollars a year after that unless you are a student.
On 2/9/2014 7:08 PM, Rebecca Stewart wrote:
> NLS and Book Share are free though. I love NLS but have not figured
> out how to get books from book share yet. I'm having trouble with the
technology.
> It's so confusing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Burke
> Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2014 3:46 PM
> To: NFB of Montana Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] FCC Chooses to Approve the Waiver for E-book
> Readers for One Year
>
> A follwo-up...
>
> Here is a quote taken from the Kindle Store's own page:
>
> ... and over 23 million
> books,
> games,
> apps,
> movies and TV shows,
> magazines,
> songs,
> and
> audiobooks
>
>
> ... those are the numbers of things you can buy from Amazon for Kindles.
>
> "By contrast, NLS's BARD services has yet to break 78,000 titles in
> the ten years or so since they began to produce and distribute their
> recorded titles digitally. Bookshare, which has by far the largest
> collection of accessible books in the US, has in its 12 years of existence
amassed 224,586 titles.
> Kindle's offerings of actual book titles may be substantially less
> than 23 million, but a couple of sources found on Google suggest that
> it was probabably about two million e-books in 2012 - two years ago,
> and growing exponentially.
> The point of the numbers, of course, is that e-books for mainstream
> consumption are exploding in availability. Increasingly new books are
> published in print and in electronic formats. And all of those could
> be accessible to us with minimal or no impact on the cost of their
production.
> And for specialized electronic formats, the numbers of titles grow at
> a glacial pace by comparison, and all with the help of the taxpayers'
> money, though Bookshare also generates a substantial amount of its
> funding from other, private sources.
>
> And like Sheila, when my BookPort Plus bites the dust, I want to be
> able to spend $60 or $70 for an e-reader.
>
> Best,
> Dan
>
>
> On 2/9/14, Dan Burke <burke.dall at gmail.com> wrote:
>> There was a comment period back in November or December. There were
>> e-mails to various of the NFB lists, though I can't remember for sure
>> if there was one that went to all the lists, etc. But the comment
>> that there are so many things that fly by is a true one. In any
>> case, the NFB made comments and I put one in myself.
>>
>> The companies that wanted the exemption wanted it on a permanent
>> basis, I believe. Amazon, Sony and Kobo led the way on this. Their
>> claim was that they shouldn't have to be accessible on devices that
>> are strictly readers, and don't have other functions, including
>> internet browsing, e-mail and other social media like Skype and Face
>> Book capabilities. They are attempting to negotiate a narrow
>> interpretation of the law. I'm not sure that any device is so
>> limited anymore, but that's the argument they made.
>>
>> Of course, these are the cheapest of devices. Victor Streams and
>> BookPort Pluses and Pockets, for example, all offer some wi-fi
>> capabilities, but they too are limited to getting access to reading
>> material; whether it's NLS books or Bookshare or NFB Newsline. Yet
>> they are all $300 or more. As Sheila points out, most of the blind
>> people in the US, with more than 70 percent unemployment, have
>> difficulty getting these devices unless they are active VR clients in
>> a training program. And while I am a big fan of Bookshare and BARD,
>> for example, I see that there are more and more new books coming out
>> in e-book formats. With the credo "What is born digital must be born
>> accessible" on my tongue, I want to go out and get the book I want
>> right when it comes out in an accessible digital format. That is how
>> the market is supposed to work, and does for anyone who is sighted.
>>
>> Hopefully, the extension of only one year may prove fruitful time for
>> us in the NFB and others advocating for access to mainstream e-books
>> and devices. I don't know the whys or wherefores of this decision as
>> yet.
>>
>> Best,
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/9/14, Breslauers <bjb5757 at bresnan.net> wrote:
>>> I wonder what went into their decision. Was there a comment period
>>> that we missed? It's hard to keep track of everything that affects
>>> our lives. I think it would be ideal to be able to work a
>>> mainstream product right out of the box with little or no adaptation
necessary.
>>> We do have access to some companies who cater to our needs, for a
>>> price, often one most individuals can't pay. And then there's the
>>> cost of upgrades and maintenance agreements. Whether we like it or
>>> not, we are a minority and our spending power and influence is
>>> limited. Companies don't need us to succeed financially, and they
>>> won't include us in their buyer base unless it's the law. I'm
>>> disappointed in this decision because I don't see the sense of it; I
>>> don't know what they hope to gain by waiting a year.
>>>
>>> I remember in 1990 when I was laid off from AT&T along with about
>>> 120 thousand other workers, one of the supervisors said that we were
>>> a minority and, as such, the best ones to advocate for ourselves; no
>>> one else could or would do it for us as effectively. That was right
>>> before the ADA went into effect. That year the CEO was in the news
>>> bragging about how much money they were saving by laying all these
>>> people off. It is true that technology had improved enough by then
>>> that one automated computer could do the work of ten thousand
>>> operators, and that was a big savings for the company. But it
>>> impacted all the lives that were laid off. To put it in
>>> perspective, I remember hearing about a protest that the telephone
>>> workers had in probably the early 1900s or so when they were
>>> introducing dial phones and wouldn't need the operators to dial the
>>> numbers for people any more. That laid off people, too. Oh, the
>>> progress of progress. Joy
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of sheila
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 8:53 PM
>>> To: NFB of Montana Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbmt] FCC Chooses to Approve the Waiver for E-book
>>> Readers for One Year
>>>
>>> I agree completely dan When the kendle first came out and happened
>>> to be featured on Oprah, I was thrilled until I found out the thing
>>> was completely inaccessable to me as a blind person. If my plextalk
>>> dies, I'll have to save money for a while before replacing it while
>>> it would be easier to come up with a hundred dollars.
>>> On 2/8/2014 6:59 PM, Dan Burke wrote:
>>>> True, except that Kindle has tens of thousands more books than we
>>>> can ever get on our Streams, and the e-book readers sold to the
>>>> mainstream are about $100 or less, instead of $380. I want the
>>>> free market that everyone else has access to. I want to pay those
>>>> same prices and get accessible mainstream readers and books.
>>>>
>>>> The FCC's decision is indeed a big disappointment..
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/8/14, Rebecca Stewart <becca33 at bresnan.net> wrote:
>>>>> Well, that's bad news of course but it can only create more
>>>>> business for companies who have chosen to cater to our needs,
>>>>> companies like the one that makes the Victor Stream. If these
>>>>> companies show a great profit by catering to the blind, then other
>>>>> companies who are not forced to will make the choice to become
>>>>> accessible in order to get our business, that's how the free
>>>>> market
>>>>> works:)
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Nfbmt [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rik
>>>>> James
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 11:53 PM
>>>>> To: NFB of Montana Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: [Nfbmt] FCC Chooses to Approve the Waiver for E-book
>>>>> Readers for One Year
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello, list members. This is Rik.
>>>>>
>>>>> I read this as a bit of disappointing news. Maybe some of you
>>>>> already had heard about it.
>>>>> I found it as one of the items in Blind Bargains today, which is a
>>>>> pretty neat place to find stuff for sale in addition to news bits,
>>>>> and
>>> what not.
>>>>> http://www.blindbargains.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> FCC Chooses to Approve the Waiver for E-book Readers for One Year
>>>>>
>>>>> Back in August, we told you about the Coalition of E-book Reader
>>>>> manufacturers asking the FCC to waive the requirements to make
>>>>> their basic e-book readers accessible. Then in October, we let
>>>>> you know that a temporary waiver had been granted to the Coalition
>>>>> while the FCC reviewed the case. Today, we're sad to announce that
>>>>> the FCC has decided to grant the waiver, granting these companies
>>>>> the right to not have to make their basic e-book readers
>>>>> accessible to people with disabilities. According to the Digital
>>>>> Journal, here are some of the requirements that the FCC laid out
>>>>> for which devices would qualify for the waiver: the device must
>>>>> not have an LCD screen, the device must not have a camera, and the
>>>>> device must be marketed as a reading device. The waiver that was
>>>>> granted will last
> for one year.
>>>>> Posted by Alena Roberts Sunday, 02-Feb-2014 2:02 PM ET in
>>>>> Books/Movies/Music
>>>>>
>>>>>
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