[Nfbmt] real i.d.

Wed Nov 23 20:53:34 UTC 2016

As I understand, in January 2018, )a year plus from now), you will need a
Real I D or some other acceptable form.  A Montana I D or drivers license
will not be accepted.
Ted

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I'm trying to find out.  I don't have any of the other forms of i.d. like a
passport, a green card, a naturalization card, or whatever.

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After all of that babble I am not sure where Montana stands.
Are they saying one might need a pass port? Something like that for a second
ID?

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> Current Status of States/Territories

> The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced on December 20,
> 2013 a phased enforcement plan for the REAL ID Act (the Act), as 
> passed by Congress,

> that will implement the Act in a measured, fair, and responsible way.

> Enforcement

> If a state or territory does not receive a new extension Federal 
> agencies may not accept licenses and identification cards issued by 
> these states and territories

> beginning January 30, 2017.

> Noncompliant States/Territories

> The following states remain noncompliant and have not been granted a 
> renewed extension and will be subject to REAL ID enforcement following 
> a short grace

> period. Starting January 30, 2017, Federal agencies and nuclear power 
> plants may not accept for official purposes driver's licenses and 
> state IDs from

> a noncompliant state/territory without an extension.

> list of 6 items

> .Kentucky

> .Maine

> .Montana

> .Oklahoma

> .Pennsylvania

> .S. Carolina

> list end

> Real ID Public FAQs | Homeland Security

>    Official website of the Department of Homeland Security

> REAL ID Frequently Asked Questions

> The following are frequently asked questions about the REAL ID program 
> that would be useful to the public.

> Q: What is REAL ID?

> Passed by Congress in 2005, the REAL ID Act enacted the 9/11 
> Commission's recommendation that the Federal Government "set standards 
> for the issuance of

> sources of identification, such as driver's licenses." The Act 
> established minimum security standards for state-issued driver's 
> licenses and identification

> cards and prohibits Federal agencies from accepting for official 
> purposes licenses and identification cards from states that do not 
> meet these standards.

> States have made considerable progress in meeting this key 
> recommendation of the 9/11 Commission and every state has a more 
> secure driver's license today

> than before the passage of the Act.

> Q: What do I need to do if I am visiting a federal facility or a 
> military base?

> Starting October 10, 2015, visitors seeking access to military bases 
> and almost all Federal facilities using their state-issued driver's 
> licenses or identification

> cards must present proper identification issued by REAL ID compliant 
> states or a state that has received an extension. When planning a 
> visit to a Federal

> facility or military base, visitors should contact the facility to 
> determine what identification will be accepted.

> Q; Will a federal agency accept my Enhanced Driver's License?

> Yes. State Enhanced Driver's Licenses (EDLs) designated as acceptable 
> border-crossing documents by DHS under the Western Hemisphere Travel 
> Initiative are

> acceptable for official federal purposes such as accessing a Federal 
> facility or boarding a commercial aircraft. Individual agency policies 
> may still apply.

> Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Vermont, and Washington are the only 
> states that currently issue EDLs. For more information on EDLs, please 
> go to

> www.dhs.gov/enhanced-drivers-licenses-what-are-they.

>  Q: REAL ID does NOT apply to the following:

> list of 6 items

> .Entering Federal facilities that do not require a person to present 
> identification

> .Voting or registering to vote

> .Applying for or receiving Federal benefits

> .Being licensed by a state to drive

> .Accessing Health or life preserving services (including hospitals and 
> health clinics), law enforcement, or constitutionally protected 
> activities (including

> a defendant's access to court proceedings)

> .Participating in law enforcement proceedings or investigations

> list end

> Q: Why is DHS implementing air travel in stages?

> On January 8, 2016, the Secretary of Homeland Security announced the 
> following timetable for the implementation of the REAL ID Act for air
travel:

> list of 5 items

> .Effective immediately, the Department of Homeland Security will 
> conduct outreach to educate the traveling public about the timeline 
> below, and continue

> engagements with states to encourage compliance with REAL ID standards.

> .Starting July 15, 2016, TSA, in coordination with airlines and 
> airport stakeholders, will begin to issue web-based advisories and 
> notifications to the

> traveling public.

> .Starting December 15, 2016, TSA will expand outreach at its airport 
> checkpoints through signage, handouts, and other methods.

> .Starting January 22, 2018, passengers with a driver's license issued 
> by a state that is still not compliant with the REAL ID Act (and has 
> not been granted

> an extension) will need to show an alternative form of acceptable 
> identification for domestic air travel to board their flight.

>  Passengers with driver's licenses issued by a state that is compliant 
> with REAL ID (or a state that has been issued an extension) will still 
> be able to

> use their driver's licenses or identification cards.

> .Starting October 1, 2020, every air traveler will need a REAL 
> ID-compliant license, or another acceptable form of identification, 
> for domestic air travel.

> list end

> This timetable recognizes that some states must change their laws to 
> comply with the REAL ID Act. It is also designed to provide an 
> opportunity for members

> of the public to learn more about the implications of not having a 
> REAL ID-compliant license, and so that individuals have an ample 
> opportunity to replace

> their pre-REAL ID licenses with new compliant licenses or to obtain 
> another acceptable form of identification.

> Q: When will I need to change how I travel domestically?

> Starting January 22, 2018, passengers who have driver's licenses 
> issued by a state that is not yet compliant with REAL ID and that has 
> not received an

> extension will need to show an alternative form of acceptable 
> identification for domestic air travel. Please see

> TSA's website

> for a list of acceptable forms of identification. Passengers who have 
> licenses issued by a state that is compliant or that has an extension 
> to become

> compliant with REAL ID requirements may continue to use their licenses 
> as usual. For a list of states already in compliance or with an 
> extension visit

> DHS's REAL ID webpage.

> DHS continually updates this list as more states come into compliance 
> or obtain extensions.

> Starting October 1, 2020, every air traveler will need to present a 
> REAL ID-compliant license or another acceptable form of identification 
> for domestic

> air travel. A REAL ID compliant license is one that meets, and is 
> issued by a state that complies with, the REAL ID Act's security
standards.

> Travelers can check

> DHS's REAL ID webpage

> at any time to learn if your state is compliant and can check with 
> your state's agency that issues driver's licenses about how to acquire 
> a compliant

> license. The earlier your state becomes compliant, the more likely you 
> will be able to acquire a compliant license as part of the normal 
> renewal
cycle.

> Q: How will the public be notified of these changes for air travel?

> On January 8, 2016, the Secretary of Homeland Security announced the 
> timetable for the final phase of implementation to the REAL ID Act to 
> inform the traveling

> public of changes that will be made for identification for domestic 
> air travel effective January 22, 2018. DHS will conduct outreach to 
> educate the traveling

> public about the timeline, and continue engagements with states to 
> encourage compliance with REAL ID standards.

> Starting July 15, 2016, TSA, in coordination with airlines and airport 
> stakeholders, will begin to issue web-based advisories and 
> notifications to the

> traveling public.

> Starting December 15, 2016, TSA will expand outreach at its airport 
> checkpoints through signage, handouts, and other methods.

> Q: Will minors need to have driver's licenses to fly domestically?

> TSA does not require children under 18 to provide identification when 
> traveling with a companion within the United States. The companion 
> will need acceptable

> identification.

> Q: Is a passport my only other option if my state is not compliant?

> No. TSA currently accepts several other forms of identity documents 
> and will continue to do so. For more information on acceptable forms 
> of identification

> for boarding aircraft, please see

> TSA's website.

> Q: Is DHS trying to build a national database with all of our information?

> No. REAL ID is a national set of standards, not a national 
> identification card.  REAL ID does not create a federal database of 
> driver license information.

> Each jurisdiction continues to issue its own unique license, maintains 
> its own records, and controls who gets access to those records and 
> under what circumstances.

> The purpose of REAL ID is to make our identity documents more 
> consistent and secure.

> Q: Why is DHS announcing this now? Deadlines have been changed 
> numerous times, so why can't this wait?

> Since 2013, in accordance with the phased enforcement plan announced 
> by DHS, federal agencies have begun implementation at federal 
> facilities and military

> bases. The Department has not previously announced a schedule for 
> implementation for air travel.  The time has come to complete 
> implementation of the law,

> in support of the overall goal of ensuring the safety and security of 
> the public.

> Q: Can states still receive extensions from DHS?

> Yes. DHS is continuing to provide extensions, as warranted. Extensions 
> are granted for a maximum of one year and may be renewed if a state 
> demonstrates

> continued progress towards compliance. Extensions are not a long-term 
> alternative to a state becoming compliant. All states must become 
> compliant-both

> in terms of the law, but also to prevent the burden of additional 
> documentation from falling on their residents.

> Q: What happens to travelers who show up without a compliant license?
> Will TSA turn them away?

> DHS has been working with states for years around REAL ID compliance 
> and have provided technical assistance, grants and other support to 
> them.  We are

> also providing more than two years advance notice of implementation 
> with respect to domestic air travel to allow ample time for all states 
> to achieve compliance,

> or for potential air travelers to acquire an alternate form of ID if 
> their state does not comply with REAL ID.

> Starting January 22, 2018, travelers who do not have a license from a 
> compliant state or a state that has been granted an extension (

> a complete list of non-compliant states/ territories can be found
> here)

> will be asked to provide alternate

> acceptable identification.

> If the traveler cannot provide an acceptable form of identification, 
> they will not be permitted through the security checkpoint.

> Starting October 1, 2020, every traveler will need to present a REAL 
> ID-compliant license or another acceptable form of identification for 
> domestic air

> travel.

> Q: Why are some states still not compliant? Isn't this law?

> REAL ID is a mandate on Federal agencies, restricting the 
> circumstances under which they may accept state-issued driver's 
> licenses and identification cards

> for official purposes.  Participation by states is voluntary, although 
> Federal agencies are prohibited from accepting driver's licenses or 
> identification

> cards from noncompliant states for official purposes (e.g., boarding 
> aircraft, accessing federal facilities, and entering nuclear power
plants).

> Q:  How does REAL ID implementation impact states that provide 
> driver's licenses and IDs to certain non-citizens/undocumented immigrants?

> REAL ID allows compliant states to issue driver's licenses and 
> identification cards where the identity of the applicant cannot be 
> assured or for whom lawful

> presence is not determined.  In fact, some states currently issue such 
> noncompliant cards to undocumented individuals. These cards must 
> clearly state on

> their face (and in the machine readable zone) that it is not 
> acceptable for official purposes and must use a unique design or color 
> to differentiate them

> from compliant cards.  DHS cautions against assuming that possession 
> of a noncompliant card indicates the holder is an undocumented 
> individual, given that

> several states issue noncompliant licenses for reasons unrelated to 
> lawful presence.

> Last Published Date: October 26, 2016

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