[NFBMT] printer/scanner

Sat May 19 19:38:59 UTC 2018

What you are saying then is I can move important programs to the cloud 
threw drop box?
Wow that would be cool.
I have drop box but don't know how to use it

Original message:
> The KNFB Reader app on my Android devices works well for me, but it does
> take some practice.  A user has to get accustomed to holding the phone or
> tablet correctly to get the best results.  Also, I purchased a stand from
> Amazon that holds my phone steady at the correct distance for taking the
> photo.  Lastly, lighting conditions make a big difference, too.

> Computing is moving away from a PC-based technology to cloud-based
> technology.  The cloud simply consists of servers that store data and
> provide applications online, so instead of working from a local drive on
> your computer, your drives are remote.  Mobile technology is quickly
> overtaking the PC model.  In the future, but not quite yet, our screen
> readers will most likely be built into whatever operating system our device
> uses.  For example, for Apple IOS, it's Voiceover.  For Android, it's
> Talkback.  For Microsoft, it's Narrator, and for Chrome OS, it's ChromeVox.
> I think Jaws and NVDA will eventually fade away in favor of these built-in
> screen readers.  It's going to take a while yet, especially for Narrator to
> catch up, but I bet we aren't far from the change.  What's really cool about
> this is that blind people enjoy immediate access to what our sighted peers
> take for granted.  We already can buy and use mainstream devices right off
> the same store shelf, and it's only a matter of time before this will be the
> norm for Windows, too.

> Going back to KNFB Reader, the thing that makes it work for me is that I use
> the cloud to store information, and I can access the cloud with any of my
> devices, including my PC.  I don't have to mess with file transfers.  I
> simply go to a cloud site like Dropbox, One Drive, or Google Drive, and
> access my files there.  I continue to use my PC for serious work, but this
> is because the mobile options are not quite fully reliable for me yet, which
> is caused by a combination of my own lack of mobile skills and weaknesses in
> under-developed mobile options.  Thing is, though, the mobile stuff gets
> updated rapidly.  What might be a barrier one day can go away with an
> update.  Of course, the converse can be true, too, in that an update can
> break accessibility.

> Best!

> Jim Marks
> Blind.grizzly at gmail.com
> (406) 438-1421

> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFBMT [mailto:nfbmt-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Edward Robbins
> via NFBMT
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 5:01 PM
> To: 'NFB of Montana Discussion List' <nfbmt at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Edward Robbins <ecrobbins517 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NFBMT] printer/scanner

> Joy,
>         You covered several subjects here, and I would like to comment on
> several.  Scanners and a program like Open Book is great.  I am fortunate,
> in that Anna does most of our reading, but when she isn't here I can do it
> myself.  As for Mortgage and other recurring payments, they can be set up
> for automatic payments so you don't forget and get hit with "penalty's".
> Several years ago we changed our recurring payments, (utilities, phones,
> Mortgage, NFB PAC, Insurance, etc.) to automatic ACH payments from the bank,
> or Charge to my Credit card, which I gain points from with each charge.  The
> credit card is then the only payment we have to remember and we set this up
> for payment to be taken out of our bank account 2 or 3 days before it is
> due.  If you maintain a balance on your credit card, this too can be set up
> for "Auto Pay" and have a regular amount paid each month.  You only have to
> remember that you have limited funds left in the bank for discretionary
> purchases, such as food, clothing and other necessities of life.
>         FYI, after a few years, I have earned enough points that I can
> purchase, or Help purchase my air tickets to attend the National convention.
> It is kind of like a savings account.  Not a lot, but every little bit
> helps.
>         As for maintaining records, the computer is good, especially if you
> "back up" your computer occasionally.  You can do this with an external hard
> drive, or if not that, even a portable "thumb drive) works.  Before I was
> working so much with the computer I used my Braille N Speak and after one of
> my crashes, one of my boys told me that I needed to "back up" the thing as
> often as I didn't want to loose the information.  You can do this with the
> external hard drive to "automatically" back up weekly, daily, or any period
> you choose.
>         As a Christian, I have been reminded several times that even "JESUS
> SAVES".
>         Each of us needs to use the system that works best for us, whether a
> Braille record, Computer "backed up" or a paper trail.

> Ted

> EDWARD C "TED" ROBBINS, E-MAIL:  ecrobbins517 at gmail.com CEO MBEI & Treasurer
> NFB of Montana PHONE & FAX:  406 453 6678, CELL:  406 799 6268
> 104 RIVERVIEW 5 E
> GREAT FALLS  MT   59404

> -----Original Message-----
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> Cc: BRESLAUERS <breslauerj at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NFBMT] printer/scanner

> We have a room set up in our house like an office where we have a computer
> desk with a computer, a phone, and a printer/scanner.  We had a reader once
> in Great Falls but when she got married and moved away, we never found
> another one.  It has been so helpful for us to have access to a
> printer/scanner that we can use with OpenBook to read the mail on a daily
> basis, and do our banking online.  I know everybody doesn't have this setup,
> but it works well for us.  It keeps the paperwork down, lets us know what is
> and isn't junk mail, and we can pay our bills or schedule them to be paid
> when we want them to go out, and determine how much they get.  That way
> other people and their schedules and editorial comments don't need to be
> involved.
> Each of us knows exactly what we have at all times, since we keep a running
> balance in Braille in a notebook.  We do this as a team.  I love it.  I
> haven't had a lot of success with the KNFB reader yet, but that would be a
> good option as well for scanning and reading the mail.  Our system works
> well for us unless we receive something that is handwritten.  I know people
> who keep an expense ledger in a Braille device or on a computer that can be
> read with a Braille device.  I don't trust the computer any more since it
> has crashed on me more than once and I can't afford to lose irreplaceable
> information.  I also know people who keep notes in their Victor Stream or in
> their head, or call the phone banking.  I don't go by the phone bank because
> there are always things that haven't cleared yet.  You can't afford to make
> mistakes and forget things, so it is hard to keep tabs on it if you only use
> your memory.  Once, even though I was using the
> write-it-down-in-a-Braille-notebook method, I forgot to deduct the mortgage
> payment and wondered where all the extra money came from.  Oops, make that
> twice.  I'd like to say I'll never do that again, but I think that's what I
> said the first time.  I think it's really important for blind people to
> learn home management and how to handle finances.  I would bet that most of
> us have never had any training on it.  I didn't take any courses on it in
> school.  I know my parents didn't give me much advice, but the advice they
> did give me I fortunately heeded, and that was to write everything down in a
> notebook.
> Maybe that was the only time I heeded their advice.  One thing about
> braille, unless you have a fire or a flood, you're not likely to lose the
> information like you would in a computer crash.

> Joy Breslauer, President

> National Federation of the Blind of Montana

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