[NFBMV] Fwd.: Money
Robert Spangler
spangler.robert at gmail.com
Fri Sep 21 16:27:04 UTC 2018
I am 100% for transparency, but I understand what you are saying. There
is probably a lot from the past that I don't know fully about, but I'm
just sharing my opinion as it regards funding members to go to
conventions. Thanks for your explanation.
On 9/21/2018 11:38 AM, Richard Payne via NFBMV wrote:
>
> Guys I am only jumping in this loop to say a thing or two. First this
> is something that should be talked about off list. The state as you
> know has a form that is sent out after the board of directors
> determine the budget for assistance no matter who puts in a request.
> Money seems to be a topic that could do more harm than it is worth
> think of the amount that we are speaking about. We must remember that
> others can read things on this list and they do not have the
> information that you would have as officers of the chapter. I say that
> to say that following this email thread several things are not true
> and this is not the place to discuss some of it. When we consider
> assisting people to attend the conventions it is not based on income
> nor is it about how many times they have received help. We know that
> people have personal budgets, so the consideration is based on other
> things. For example I may think a rich member should be denied because
> I think they are rich, but I have no way of checking his or her bank
> account. What most of the presidents in the state’s will do is look at
> it as training for the affiliate or chapter like a business would. I
> understand all of this, but we can find topics that would be better
> served on the list. You can feel free to call me and I would be glad
> to tell you why I am saying this.
>
> Richard Payne, President
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> *From:*NFBMV <nfbmv-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *Wanda Sloan via
> NFBMV
> *Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2018 10:24 AM
> *To:* 'NFB of Ohio, Greater Miami Valley Chapter List' <nfbmv at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* Wanda Sloan <wsloan118 at roadrunner.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [NFBMV] Fwd.: Money
>
> Chapters usually follow what the State and National does. Looking
> from a marketing perspective it’s a giant pyramid set up which works
> well financially when managed properly.
>
> *From:*NFBMV [mailto:nfbmv-bounces at nfbnet.org] *On Behalf Of *Robert
> Spangler via NFBMV
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:33 PM
> *To:* nfbmv at nfbnet.org <mailto:nfbmv at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* Robert Spangler <spangler.robert at gmail.com
> <mailto:spangler.robert at gmail.com>>
> *Subject:* Re: [NFBMV] Fwd: Money
>
> They are reviewed at the state level. I don't remember if it's by the
> board, or if there's a committee; Richard would know those details better.
>
> On 9/20/2018 8:47 PM, Tim Janning wrote:
>
> I would tend to agree that convention assistance should be left to
> the state and the chapters and divisions should contribute to the
> state affiliate to support that effort and perhaps there could be
> a group or team at the state level who could review and determine
> who would get scholarship assistance. I do not know what criteria
> is being used by the state to allocate convention assistance or
> whether it is first come/first served or based on who’s who or who
> you know.
>
> T J
>
> *From:*Robert Spangler via NFBMV
>
> *Sent:*Thursday, September 20, 2018 4:24 PM
>
> *To:*nfbmv at nfbnet.org <mailto:nfbmv at nfbnet.org>
>
> *Cc:*Robert Spangler
>
> *Subject:*Re: [NFBMV] Fwd: Money
>
> I think in order for me to give a full opinion the names of the
> individuals need to be included as well. Are these the same folks
> who went to the national convention? It may be more respectful to
> send this out to the board only. As I have explained in the past,
> I am against funding the same people to go to convention every
> year. In fact, I am against our chapter funding folks to go to
> conventions at all; the state has a scholarship program for this
> purpose and we should be donating to that instead. I understand
> that certain repeat beneficiaries of this funding might not be
> happy, but it would give folks who have not had a chance to go an
> opportunity.
>
> On 9/20/2018 1:49 PM, Wanda Sloan via NFBMV wrote:
>
> So, is Wanda Sloan one of the six//?
>
> *From:*NFBMV [mailto:nfbmv-bounces at nfbnet.org] *On Behalf Of
> *carolyn peters via NFBMV
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:02 AM
> *To:* Janine Pickens mailto:jayninepickens at yahoo.com; Robbie
> Spangler mailto:spangler.robert at gmail.com; nfbmv at nfbnet.org
> <mailto:nfbmv at nfbnet.org>; Karen Warner
> mailto:warnekoo at att.net; Tim Jannings mailto:tjjanning at gmail.com
> *Cc:* carolyn peters mailto:drcarolyn-peters at att.net
> *Subject:* [NFBMV] Fwd: Money
>
> Greetings board members at the Miami Valley chapter we have
> some and finish business to take care of. Please read the
> forwarded information that I have asked Tim Jannings to
> provide to the board. Some of this information was discussed
> in the June meeting we did not follow up, the September
> meeting no one requested scholarship assistance, although the
> fun raiser is designated for such purposes 1/3 for the
> national 1/3 for the state and 1/3 for the chapter to make
> necessary donations. As we all know we have some members that
> need financial assistance we have some members that requested
> every year, no matter why they requested we must provide
> something if the funds are available. We have six members who
> have requested scholarship assistance and the state is
> gracious enough to provide that assistance and has provided it
> to the same six people for the national as well so is so fair
> that we support the state with donations for the cars as well
> as for door prizes. I would like for each of you to review the
> statement that has been before you and if you have any
> objections please explain why you object or at least give a
> rationale for your objection and if not I am strongly
> recommending that we follow what is outlined in the letter the
> only exception I would make I would only offer the scholarship
> refund of $40 for the banquet ticket to those that have
> requested scholarships we have 11 people that will be
> attending the State conference only six has requested
> financial assistance., And they must verify that they attended
> the banquet in order to get the $40 refund. I hope you’re
> having a wonderful wonderful day, I just completed a
> conversation radio invitation with Paul Dressel from
> Cincinnati and it was absolutely wonderful I had a great time
> and an opportunity to promote the Miami Valley chapter as I
> always do. Have a wonderful day if you need to talk to me
> off-line please do so if not please just reply with a yes or
> no with a rash and now thank you sincerely Dr. Carolyn Peters
>
> Please respond ASAP thank you
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* "Tim Janning" <tjjanning at gmail.com
> <mailto:tjjanning at gmail.com>>
> *Date:* September 18, 2018 at 2:24:21 PM EDT
> *To:* "carolyn peters" <drcarolyn-peters at att.net
> <mailto:drcarolyn-peters at att.net>>
> *Cc:* "Tim Janning" <tjjanning at gmail.com
> <mailto:tjjanning at gmail.com>>
> *Subject:* *Money*
>
> Hi Dr Peters
>
> Just to recap our conversation, our profit from the spaghetti
> dinner and sale of key chains less associated expenses was
> $1,127. That is the same number I provided Robbie for the
> Gavel report. If we spend $50 each for the Ten Brook,
> Jernigan, White cane, Imagination funds and $50 for state
> convention door prizes that amount to $250. In addition to
> the $250 we will make a pledge at the state convention for
> money for the movement for $100 for a grand total of $350. We
> spent $350 for National convention assistance for a total of
> $700 leaving $427 for state convention assistance which would
> just about cover the cost a $40 banquet ticket for 11
> members. The reimbursement for the convention banquet would
> be after the fact. Hope this all makes sense.
>
> Tim
>
>
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