[nfbwatlk] FW: [Blindtlk] Polocies Against The Blind...

Fri Dec 16 19:35:22 UTC 2011

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of James Kelm
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:12 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Polocies Against The Blind...

I did want to offer a positive detail to this story.  My wife and I went
this week to another, competitor, blood donating facility.  They not only
accepted me, but were extremely nice and welcoming, and told me that they
had several blind donators.  For curiosity, I also telephoned a number of
other places around town.  I did not give them any background, but simply
asked if they accepted visually impaired individuals.  Every one of them
said that they would be happy to accept a blind donor, and actually sounded
a little surprised that I would ask such a question.  So I can only conclude
that the discriminative policy is, at least locally, simply an issue with
the one business.

Your Brother in Christ,
Pastor James Kelm
True Hope Church of Duluth
Web Site: www.thcduluth.org
Office E-mail: office at thcduluth.org
Phone: 218-727-4186

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Kelm" <jameskelm at earthlink.net>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Polocies Against The Blind...

> I also have a brother who has some of the same attitudes as yours do.  He
> tells me that I am too sensitive, and may see discrimination where there
> isn't any.  His favorite expression is that "you have to understand where
> they are coming from".  Of course he lives on the other side of the
country,
> so does not experience life with a blind person on a day-to-day basis.  He
> often tells me that people do not discriminate against the disabled, but
> rather usually go out of their way to accommodate them.
>
>
> Your Brother in Christ,
> Pastor James Kelm
> True Hope Church of Duluth
> Web Site: www.thcduluth.org
> Office E-mail: office at thcduluth.org
> Phone: 218-727-4186
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jessica Kostiw" <jessicac.kostiw at gmail.com>
> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 1:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Polocies Against The Blind...
>
>
> > I find this very interesting and forwarded it to both my brother and
> sister,
> > who are sighted lawyers.  Sometimes I think my family thinks I just make
> > this stuff up.
> >
> > I wonder how new this policy is.  LCB staff and students donate blood
> > regularly.  This is just awful.
> >
> > Jessica
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On
> > Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
> > Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 1:50 PM
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Polocies Against The Blind...
> >
> > I have given blood here in Minnesota through my employer to the red
cross
> > and I am finding it
> > increasingly difficult to donate.  We have had other problems in the
Twin
> > Cities in the past that we
> > tried to address, but I must say, not having an emergency exit policy is
> > about the most blatent and
> > least defensible thing I have heard.  Certainly you have a right to feel
> > frustrated, but it does seem
> > that there is work to be done as well.  I can't help but wonder what
their
> > general policy is to deal
> > with someone who is half through giving blood and who might be dizzy if
> > forced to stand in a hurry.  I
> > would think that blindness would be the least of the problems that one
> might
> > have.  <smile>
> >
> > You might be interested to know that it is now common practice to not
> permit
> > someone you know to fill
> > out the paperwork with you.  The justification is that you might not be
> > honest with them in your
> > answers.  This requires you to take the time of a staff person, and even
> if
> > they are willing, they are
> > often required to tend to other tasks.
> >
> > Were you working with a branch of the Red Cross there in Duluth or is it
> > another type of blood bank?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Steve Jacobson
> >
> > On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:22:35 -0600, James Kelm wrote:
> >
> > >Dear friends,
> >
> > >    Well an interesting thing happened to my wife and I last Friday,
and
> I
> > >thought that I'd see what you all thought.  It seemed to be a relevant
> > >story, based upon the recent conversations here on this list.
> >
> > >    Wanting to do something good for our fellow human beings, my wife
and
> I
> > >decided that we would donate blood at one of our local blood banks.  We
> > >arrived, filled out the necessary paper work, and waited in the waiting
> > room
> > >to do our duty.
> >
> > >    After a few minutes, a gentleman came out and requested that we
> follow
> > >him to his office.  I am assuming that this gentleman was some kind of
a
> > >manager.  After entering his office, he politely informed us that he
had
> > >spoken to his corporate office, and learned that they currently had no
> > >policy in place to assure my safety in the case of an emergency, so
> > >unfortunately they did not allow blind people to donate blood.  He then
> > >turned to my wife, who is sighted but like many middle-aged people,
wears
> > >reading glasses.  The gentleman went on to explain that unless my wife
> went
> > >home to retrieve her reading glasses and thereby demonstrating that she
> was
> > >not blind, they also would not allow her to donate.  I politely
explained
> > >that the corporate office should be aware that their company policy
> > violated
> > >Federal anti-discrimination laws, and they did not have the legal
luxury
> of
> > >determining which laws they were, or were not prepared to follow.  The
> > >gentleman told me that he understood, but that he had to comply with
his
> > >corporate office's instructions to not allow the blind to donate blood.
> >
> > >    This situation came as a bit of surprise to me.  Of course most of
us
> > >blind folks are use to vague and concealed discrimination, but I was
> caught
> > >off guard to face such an open and obvious demonstration of one's civil
> > >rights being disregarded.  It was rather shocking to be directly told
by
> a
> > >business, that they did not want the blind!
> >
> >
> > >Your Brother in Christ,
> > >Pastor James Kelm
> > >True Hope Church of Duluth
> > >Web Site: www.thcduluth.org
> > >Office E-mail: office at thcduluth.org
> > >Phone: 218-727-4186
> >
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