[Njtechdiv] Orcam

Sat Oct 27 16:05:14 UTC 2018

We love the IDMate, too.

The Orcam also read a screen.  Not sure whether or not Seeing AI does that.  I can think of plenty of times being able to read text on a screen would be handy.

Tracy

From: Njtechdiv [mailto:njtechdiv-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Njtechdiv
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 11:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [Njtechdiv] Orcam

While Seeing A.I. is an excellent app for figuring out various things, nothing beats the Envision America’s ID Mate. When I get groceries in and am putting them away it is near impossible to get any phone app like Seeing A.I. or Digit Eyes to recognize the bar code on a rounded or other weirdly shaped surface. The ID Mate quickly picks up the code and can tell me what a product is provided its in the database. 

For difficult cases, I too will use the short text channel in Seeing A.I. to try and read the label to figure out what an product is and then I’ll go back to the IDMate and add it to the database and upload it to the server. 

Given the price on the Orcam, I think a person could go out and buy a new Iphone & and ID Mate (whatever the current model is) for half the price of the Orcam, excluding the cost of monthly phone service. 

Just saying --

Eileen

From: Jane Degenshein via Njtechdiv 

Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 11:25 AM

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Subject: Re: [Njtechdiv] Orcam

I agree with you Andy as I use seeing ai even more than the KNFB reader

It is quick and the product recognition is quite good but sometimes, I use short text for cans, bottles, or other info I need fast

woo hoo

From: Andy via Njtechdiv 

Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 11:18 AM

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Cc: Andy ; Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances 

Subject: Re: [Njtechdiv] Orcam

Tracy, how does this differ from SeeingAI?  SeeingAI seems to be able to do most of this.  For instance, you can use its "Document" mode to read a menu, or perhaps the "Short Text" mode could be useful for this as well if you needed something specific.  I've used "Short Text," for instance, to read serial numbers, etc.

Similarly, there's also a "Person" mode, and "Color," etc.  It's also worth noting that SeeingAI is free for Android and iPhone users.

On Oct 27, 2018, at 11:06 AM, Tracy Carcione via Njtechdiv <njtechdiv at nfbnet.org> wrote:

I saw the Orcam yesterday.  It was pretty nice.

Hold 2 fingers together, and that’s about the length and width of the camera.  There used to be an extra processor, but now it’s all in the camera.

It attaches to a magnet that can clip onto any pair of glasses, on either side, depending on which hand is dominant.  There’s a ridge that runs along the back of the camera that controls volume, and gives access to a menu that controls other settings.  The camera can also synch with Bluetooth headphones.

You point at the thing you want the camera to read, and hold up your hand flat to pause it.  It read pretty well.  I had it read a very complicated menu.  It got a lot of one side, and not much of the other, but there was a lot of curly script and stuff on that side.  It read the shiny brochure the demonstrator had very well.

The demo person said it can read labels, price tags, signs … whatever.  We didn’t have most of those things to try.  It read a box well.  A can, not so much.  She said products we use often can be stored in memory, so it recognizes them quickly.  She also said, if you were in a grocery aisle looking at products, and it saw one that’s in its memory, it would say it, and you could move around until you actually found it.

There’s 2 versions of the Orcam.  They both do all the things I just said.

The fancier one, the Eye, also does color recognition.  That was pretty slow, compared to my Rainbow color detector.

It also recognizes faces.  It always recognized the demonstrator, and would tell me when I looked in her direction.  We taught it to recognize Jerry, but it didn’t recognize him so much.  There’s a trick to teaching it, so maybe I did it wrong.  But, even when it didn’t recognize him, it would say “There’s a man in front of you.”

One or both models also read bar codes, but you have to point right at it, and that’s just not happening.

The one that is mostly for reading is $3500, and the Eye that does it all is $4500.

Tracy

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