[nobe-l] [nobe-l independence was lesson plan presentation

Thu Nov 15 21:28:39 UTC 2012

Hello,

Here is my opinion for what it is worth. Smile. There is no one alive who is 
completely independent, no matter their challenges or talents. We all depend 
on others, and even the blind must do the same. So, with that said, an 
independent teacher does not exist, sighted or blind. Interdependence where 
teachers, and regular citizens, rely on each other is really what makes for 
efficiency and effectiveness. In saying that, I believe that the blind are 
seen as more on the independence side of the interdependence equation if 
they are carrying their fair share of the load of work and teaching about 
blindness when appropriate occasions present themselves, meaning most all 
the time during a new job and then relaxing to that normal level after 
proving their abilities. I point this out because as blind people, and I am 
also talking about me, it is sometimes easy to become in the habit of 
allowing others to do things for us that we can effectively and efficiently 
do for ourselves. The habit, therefore, is what we should beware of. It is 
certainly okay to accept assistance from others; sighted people also do it. 
The habit point is reached when we begin doing it too much or when we ask 
for help out of fear or lack of confidence. So I agree with Elizabeth in her 
earlier email. She has previously demonstrated her capabilities. Her goal in 
presenting this lesson plan isn't to teach about blindness, but to present 
her lesson plan. There is a time to teach about blindness, and I agree it is 
annoying because it seems we always have to do that. Also, I can understand 
why we should be more on the independence side because our actions confirm 
negative stereotypes, even if we only do them one time. But, living life 
means deciding how much of our life we use to teach and correct 
misconceptions about blindness and how much of it we decide to live as 
"normal" persons since we are a part of normal society. So in a nutshell, it 
is ok to ask for assistance, even sometimes just because we are lazy. But 
beware of doing this around those who need to know you can successfully and 
effectively accomplish whatever goal. So as a teacher, strive for greater 
independence than you might at home, for instance. And, if you do decide to 
ask for assistance, make sure you also assist the other teacher in some way. 
Also, I think it is great to have the students be interactive. They need to 
see the blind successfully accomplishing tasks so they develop a positive 
philosophy about what the blind can do, but, just like sighted teachers 
should do, have them manipulate technology and other aspects during learning 
as it helps them to retain information. And, I promise that's where I'll end 
for now. Anita

-----Original Message----- 
From: Arthur
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:16 AM
To: National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nobe-l] [nobe-l independence was lesson plan presentation

This brings up an interesting question. What does it mean to be an 
independent classroom teacher?  Thoughts?

Arthur,
NOBE Board Member

Sent from my iPod

On Nov 15, 2012, at 8:22 AM, "Elizabeth Anderson" 
<e.f.cooks at aggiemail.usu.edu> wrote:

> Hi, Ashley.
>
> You are correct, the PC in the classroom doesn't have JAWS on it and I 
> have
> been hooking up my own equipment for the last three lessons, an so I think
> at this point, I have proven my ability to solve the problem of how I 
> myself
> might present the lesson. Now, I'm trying to concentrate on classroom
> movement and delivey.  Besides, the presentation time  for the lessons is
> getting shorter, and it takes almost as much time to set up and load my 
> file
> as it does to present.
> There are a couple of people on this list who think that they must not 
> rely
> on anyone under any circumstances, and that kind of mentality is both
> arrogant and dangerous.  I  think that sometimes you have to concede and
> realize thet interdependence is necessary sometimes.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobe-l [mailto:nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley 
> Bramlett
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 8:07 PM
> To: National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] lesson plan presentation
>
> Hi Elizabeth,
> I am not studying to teach as I got discouraged from that in my undergrad
> degree. Which subject do you want to teach? In an increasing multi culture
> setting, we need foreign languages for our workforce. So, I imagine your
> classes will be popular.
>
> As to your question, I agree with you. Given you have limited space, time
> and flexibility in the environment, I think asking someone to turn slides
> isn't a big deal. As you said, you want to assure that people see you and
> have a smooth presentation.
> Also, I suppose you do not have jaws on this pc you need to interact with 
> to
> turn slides.
> I see what people are saying about independence, but I believe we have to 
> be
> interdependent on people sometimes to let our abilities shine. In this
> instance, you have a limited time for the presentation; you do not want to
> worry about the technology or where you are standing in relation to the
> board. You want to focus on delivering your presentation.
>
> When you teach I'm sure you will be independent by setting up your 
> equipment
> or finding other means to present rather than a projector. For instance,
> handouts or transparencies.
>
> Good luck.
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elizabeth Anderson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:44 PM
> To: 'National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] lesson plan presentation
>
> I'm very glad for you, but this is a classroom setting in which I have no
> control.  Iam literally stuck in a corner between the desk and the white
> board.  I am not assured that people can see me, and I think I need to 
> adapt
> the situation accordingly, don't you think?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobe-l [mailto:nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brandy Wojcik
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:45 PM
> To: 'National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] lesson plan presentation
>
> I'm just telling you that 5 minutes or 50 you need to get your degree the
> same way other people get their degree. I never had an accommodation 
> special
> to me, and when I graduated I had 2 teaching offers. I was in the school
> paper, and did many talks for people earlier in the program. One day you
> will need to do a 5 minute talk in a staff meeting and it wouldn't look 
> good
> if you couldn't do it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobe-l [mailto:nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth
> Anderson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 8:36 PM
> To: 'National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] lesson plan presentation
>
> But the thing is, the presentation is only five minutes long.  I'm not 
> doing
> an entire lesson, so it's not realistic.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobe-l [mailto:nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brandy Wojcik
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:02 PM
> To: 'National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] lesson plan presentation
>
> You need to do the whole thing. If you want people to think you can teach 
> on
> the same playing field as them you need to do the tech. You are going to
> have this same problem in the classroom so you should start now.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobe-l [mailto:nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth
> Anderson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 7:13 PM
> To: 'National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List'
> Subject: [nobe-l] lesson plan presentation
>
> Okay, everybody, I have an interesting dilemma, and I want to get an
> opinion.  I am taking a teaching methods class for teaching a foreign
> language and each student is tequired to present a lesson plan.not the
> entire lesson, just about five minutes or so, just giving a summary of the
> lesson and the activities and that sort ofthing.
>
> As part of the lesson, the class must see on the projector the lesson 
> while
> the student talks about it.  I have been watching other students move back
> and forth from the computer as they operate it and then move so the other
> students can see better and talk.  Do any of you see anything wrong with 
> me
> having another student operate the computer so that I don't feel so 
> confined
> when I set up my own technology and so that I have that freedom of 
> movement
> and so that I am assured that others in the room can see me?
>
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