[nobe-l] Where do grades come from

Tue Jun 13 21:59:23 UTC 2017

Maybe I should just write full-time instead.

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> On Jun 13, 2017, at 2:34 PM, Smith, Pauline L via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> I will add that sometimes you are strongly encouraged to work with blind/visually adults and not children or young adults in a school setting.  This happened to me when I was in college studying to become a TVI.  I was strongly encouraged to get an undergraduate degree in something like social work, then get a master's degree to become a VRT.  The reason given was it was a more appropriate career and easier to get a job as a totally blind person.  Go figure.
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> Pauline Smith, TVI
> Braille Instructor
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> From: NOBE-L [mailto:nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Melissa R Green via NOBE-L
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 10:47 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] Where do grades come from
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> good advice.  I am glad that we are talking about this.  I never understood why people would encourage blind people to teach blind people. 
> Even if you are in another field.  for example, I had a friend who was in the teaching English as a second language, and she was strongly encouraged to go into teaching blind students.  She stood her ground.
> I have to say that it is also very difficult for many that have a PHD.  My friend just received a tenure three years after finishing her program and graduating.  You do everything right and want to do what you love, and you are met with so many barriers.  Its hard, but I keep going.  Its sure nice to express my difficulties.
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> From: Tara Abella via NOBE-L
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 5:12 AM
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> Kayla,
> 
> I just wanted to say that teaching elementary when you are completely blind is possible. I graduated a month ago and student taught in first grade. I'm going to be honest though, getting a job is going to be probably the most difficult part. In my experience, principals ask a lot of questions and make a lot of assumptions that even the best education from you Will not influence. You have to land in the Right office with the right person and sometimes, that can take a lot of time, especially since most teaching interviews are now in front of a panel. Also, I wanted to point out that teaching sighted children is not any more noble or not settling for sticking with your own kind. Children all need great teachers sighted or not. Sighted teachers are not settling by sticking with their own kind if they choose to work with sighted students. If you have any specific questions during your teaching experiences, let me know.
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> Tara
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>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 10:21 PM, Kayla James via NOBE-L 
>> <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
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>> I think it is interesting. I looked it up because a favorite author of 
>> mine taught in the primary grades in the 1800's, even though they 
>> didn't have grades back then.
>> Then, I got confused, because Illinois (my state) lets you be licensed 
>> from first through sixth grade and K through 9th. I want to know if it 
>> were possible to teach primary grades plus fourth grade.
>> Oh, well. Thank you for telling me. I start volunteer teaching next 
>> week. Very excited, but nervous.
>> I have this fear that as soon as I tell people I want to teach, 
>> they'll say, "Oh. Well, how nice. Blind children, of course, dear?"
>> I tried to look up any articles on totally blind teachers who taught 
>> elementary. Not a lot out there and I felt discouraged.
>> I wouldn't mind teaching blind children, but there are only two 
>> colleges in my state with that degree and I don't want to feel limited 
>> to teaching "my own kind."
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/9/17, Judy Jones via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> It used to be that young girls wanting to become teachers, if the 
>>> went to school until their 16th year, they could apply to a Normal 
>>> school, which is another phrase for a teachers' college, and after a 
>>> couple years, could come back and be a school teacher.  Even the 
>>> college I got my teaching degree from, University Of Northern 
>>> Colorado, back in the day used to be the Colorado Normal School.
>>> 
>>> Judy
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>>> From: NOBE-L [mailto:nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karl 
>>> Martin Adam via NOBE-L
>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 3:23 PM
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>>> Cc: Karl Martin Adam
>>> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] Where do grades come from
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>>> Because in the 1800s, that's all the schooling most people got (if 
>>> they went to school at all).  Even my grandparents only had 7 years 
>>> of school.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Kayla James via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org
>>> To: nobe-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 14:27:42 -0500
>>> Subject: [nobe-l] Where do grades come from
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>>> 
>>> I found out that primary grades were one through fourth grade in the 
>>> 1800s.
>>> Why is it different now?
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