[Nyagdu] dogs being passed off as service animals

Wed Nov 5 10:34:44 UTC 2008

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Cheryl Echevarria
Treasurer
National Federation of the Blind
Greater Long Island Chapter


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Margo and Elmo" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
To: "New York Association of Guide Dog Users" <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Nyagdu] dogs being passed off as service animals


> shelly and ginny, thanks so much and we look forward to working with you.
> As far as the conventin goes, we know you were with us in spirit and thank
> you for that, too.
>
> margo andElmo
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Shelly Bamrick" <lavendergirl at roadrunner.com>
> To: "New York Association of Guide Dog Users" <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 7:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nyagdu] dogs being passed off as service animals
>
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I apologize for not being at the convention, but wish to weigh in on 
> > this
> > subject.  Let's not forget the pot bellied pig incident on an airline a
> > few years back.  That was certainly not a well behaved service animal, 
> > and
> > I'm still wondering how this was passed off as a service animal.  We 
> > have
> > fought for our rights too long and too hard for this not to be of great
> > importance and priority to us.
> >
> > It is my hope that NYAGDU will do well under current administration, and
> > we can work together giving what talents, time, and abilities we all 
> > have.
> > Let me say here that it was a privilege and an honor to work with Lucy,
> > and it will continue to be an honor to work with current officers to the
> > best of my ability and from my rather isolated geographic location.
> > here's to the best for NYAGDU's future and success.
> >
> > Shelly And Ginny
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Margo and Elmo" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
> > To: "New York Association of Guide Dog Users" <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:20 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Nyagdu] dogs being passed off as service animals
> >
> >
> >>I agree, Tracy, that a well-behaved dog is the best dog, but, I also 
> >>want
> >>some sort of balance because I don't want phony service animals around.
> >>Regardless of what we do, someone is going to try to pass off his or her
> >>dog as a service dog and one would hope the dog would be well-behaved.
> >>
> >> margo and Elmo
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> >> To: "New York Association of Guide Dog Users" <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:40 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Nyagdu] dogs being passed off as service animals
> >>
> >>
> >>> Last time I flew, early July, there were at least 2 people with small
> >>> dogs
> >>> in carriers.
> >>>
> >>> I agree with what Ann Edie posted to NAGDU the other day. I care more
> >>> that
> >>> an animal is well-behaved than if it's a real service dog.  I've met
> >>> snarly guide dogs, and they were more of a threat to my dog than a
> >>> well-behaved beagle, say.
> >>> Tracy
> >>>
> >>>> Cheryl, yeah, we've got a lot of folks these days trying to pass off
> >>>> animals
> >>>> as service animals.  You gave the correct information concerning what
> >>>> can
> >>>> be
> >>>> asked and what cannot be asked.
> >>>>
> >>>> the fact the people walked away to me signifies that these animals 
> >>>> were
> >>>> not
> >>>> service dogs.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now, sometimes, hearing dogs for deaf persons can be small dogs.
> >>>>
> >>>> also, and I don't know if this is still fact but people used to be 
> >>>> able
> >>>> to
> >>>> carry a small dog in a carrier, but, of course, one isn't allowed as
> >>>> much
> >>>> carry-on stuff, so, don't know about that one.
> >>>>
> >>>> margo andElmo
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> >>>> To: "New York Association of Guide Dog Users" <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Cc: "New York Association of Guide Dog Users" <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 7:38 AM
> >>>> Subject: [Nyagdu] dogs being passed off as service animals
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On my way home from State Convention.  When we flew from Buffalo to
> >>>>> Baltimore before traveling on to Long Island, very tired you might
> >>>>> say,
> >>>>> there was not but 2 people passing there dogs off as service 
> >>>>> animals,
> >>>>> one
> >>>>> was a small chuwawa sorry can't spell that and one was something my
> >>>>> husband didn't even know what it was.  Anyway both dogs were in
> >>>>> harness
> >>>>> and off the people from the airport asked me a question at the
> >>>>> baltimore
> >>>>> airport who by the way lives near me and support the GDF foundation.
> >>>>> I
> >>>>> think she knows that laws or what a service animal is and was 
> >>>>> annoyed
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> anyone these days pass off there dogs as service animals so there 
> >>>>> pet
> >>>>> gets
> >>>>> a free ride sitting with there owners on the plane. I can understand
> >>>>> sometimes because below the plane the dogs can get sick and die, but
> >>>>> then
> >>>>> the passenger on some airlines are allowed to purchase a seat for 
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> dog.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But anyway, this lady that was talking to me asked me with all these
> >>>>> new
> >>>>> service dogs around and she know because she is a Nurse, said, I 
> >>>>> know
> >>>>> we
> >>>>> are not allowed to ask the disability of the person who used the
> >>>>> animal
> >>>>> but there are so many people out there with them know how does one 
> >>>>> go
> >>>>> without pulling ones hair out of there head or not knowing, I said 
> >>>>> by
> >>>>> law
> >>>>> you cannot ask what the disability is but you can ask what function
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> dog does, meaning our dogs are our eyes they guide us. some other 
> >>>>> dogs
> >>>>> are
> >>>>> trained to do  other tasks.  Both these people got mad and walked 
> >>>>> away
> >>>>> I
> >>>>> guess these people were not service animal owners, and the people at
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> airport as well were very happy to hear this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheryl Echevarria
> >>>>> Treasurer
> >>>>> National Federation of the Blind
> >>>>> Greater Long Island Chapter
> >>>>>
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