[Oagdu] NAGDU app

Mon Dec 15 14:31:11 UTC 2014

I am not Chris, but their family calls a dog a pog.

On 12/15/14, Deanna Lewis via Oagdu <oagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Chris,
> What is a guide pog? Sounds like an old game, LOL. Gotta love dictation.
> Deanna
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Oagdu [mailto:oagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tollebooth via
> Oagdu
> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 9:22 AM
> To: Aleeha Dudley; Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users List
> Subject: Re: [Oagdu] NAGDU app
>
> How many of us who are skilled guy dog handlers would allow our dogs to miss
> behave in public?  We understand better than anyone else the value that
> these pogs bring to us. We understand the value and the treasure of the
> relationship we have with our pog.   Those who truly need the skills that
> the dog provides will go the extra mile to love care for groom a train and
> grow their pod for its entire life.  Those who are just looking to bring an
> animal, untrained fun behave and allowed back in nonqualified into a
> situation where it does not belong will not follow the same thought process
> or guidelines as those of us who are skilled qualified certified guy dog
> handlers.
>
> tollebooth
> 513-439-7931
>
> Note: this message was created using dictation on an iOS device.
>
>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Aleeha Dudley via Oagdu <oagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> The problem with that is that identification can just as easily be
>> fabricated. There is no perfect solution to this, and I believe we will go
>> along way to ensuring well behaved animals, service or not, if the owners
>> of businesses understand that it is possible for them to ask the owner of
>> a service animal to leave if that animal is missed behaving in anyway.
>> That is, if the owner is not taking steps to ensure the behavior of of the
>> service animal.
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Angel via Oagdu <oagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I do have a question:  If the A D A says cards to show one is trained
>>> to use a Dog Guide from a certified training school is not required to be
>>> shown upon request, how can we complain about the fact unqualified people
>>> use dogs which are neither service dogs nor guides as companions.  Taking
>>> them to places where blind individual dog handlers ought to have
>>> exclusive rights to go.  I am sure the person who took his pet pig
>>> flying, the other week, claimed the pig was some sort of service animal.
>>> When the pig began traipsing up and down the isles of the airliner.  When
>>> we read of people being allowed to take all sorts of animals everywhere
>>> using this claim without being gainsaid.  Shouldn't dog guide users
>>> preserve the integrity of the privilege, so hard won, by insisting some
>>> sort of guide dog certificate be shown upon request?  Drivers don't
>>> object to being licensed.  Why shouldn't dog guide users demand in order
>>> to use a service dog, or, in that particular case, a pig, be at least
>>> asked to show some sort of documentation that that individual has the
>>> right to the use of such.  Or to call whatever animal they want to bring
>>> in to a store, or on an airliner a dog guide, or service animal?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marianne Denning via Oagdu"
>>> <oagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>; "Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users List"
>>> <oagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 7:47 AM
>>> Subject: [Oagdu] NAGDU app
>>>
>>>
>>>> I downloaded the NAGDU app and read the laws for 4 states.  One of
>>>> the states still requires identification cards even though ADA
>>>> clearly says this is not allowed.  Another state has no penalties
>>>> for places that deny access to people with service animals. I think
>>>> awareness of the laws is critical and I applaud NAGDU for providing
>>>> this.  Now, should we take it a step further and work to change laws
>>>> in some of the states?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>>>> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>>>> (513) 607-6053
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Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053