[Oagdu] When and how to file a complaint???

Mon Apr 20 16:56:37 UTC 2015

Megan, this would be an assistance dog rather than a service dog.  A
service dog performs a specific service while an assistance dog
provides comfort.  I believe assistance dogs are important but it is
not the same.  When I first started getting my dogs from Leader Dogs
they used dogs from animal shelters but the failure rate was too high
so they started breeding dogs since they were looking for certain
traits. Even when they breed dogs for specific traits about 75% of the
dogs complete the training and are placed with someone.  The others
are career changed.

On 4/20/15, meandthedog at oberlin.net <meandthedog at oberlin.net> wrote:
>>Marianne. Thank you. I have bee trying to bring up the idea of pets,
> being used as
> service dogs for years. the public has a muddied the idea of what a
> service dog is.
> We have a woman who trains therapy dogs for people who are food addicted
> and many other
> syndroms. I confronted her and asked her about certification and how that
> is done.
> she said she gets her dogs from shelters, who are adults and train them.
> Her feeling is that her dogs make her clients feel good.
> Answer me. What do doesn't make people feel good.
> It is a big problem. where do we go with this, I do not now. Megan and MS.
> P.
>
>
>  Just a reminder to all, a committee of OAGDU is working on bringing
>> the state legislation in line with ADA and increasing the penalty for
>> failure to allow access.  Education is another important piece and I
>> would encourage anyone who is interested in education to get involved
>> on that level.  Our annual dues are $5.00  and you can have a vote in
>> our monthly phone calls.  I am becoming aware of more and more issues
>> with service animals and I think it is because so many people are
>> trying to take pets into places.  As we work on legislation I am
>> interested in hearing more of these stories.
>>
>> On 4/20/15, Charles Hiser via Oagdu <oagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> The NAGDU app works in a pinch, but I think the cards would be better.
>>> If
>>> people pay enough attention, there's a disclaimer in the app that says
>>> it
>>> shouldn't be used for legal confrontations or some such. It would be all
>>> too
>>> easy for someone to call you on that... The police /should/ be our first
>>> line of defense. If we're running with the education idea, I think
>>> that's
>>> where we should start.
>>>
>>> Charles Hiser
>>>
>>>> On Apr 20, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Aleeha Dudley via Oagdu
>>>> <oagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I believe that education is important. I also believe that,
>>>> especially since it has the state laws in it, the Nagdu app is the best
>>>> way to show this information since we don't have the cards yet.
>>>> Whatever
>>>> happened to that PowerPoint that we had?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 20, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Deanna Lewis via Oagdu
>>>>> <oagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Marianne,
>>>>> Thanks! I tried telling the cop that it was a criminal offense, but he
>>>>> would not listen. I'm actually more upset with the cop for not getting
>>>>> involved than I am at the assistant manager! I really think that we
>>>>> should make education a top priority for Oagdu. Police officers need
>>>>> to
>>>>> be aware of the laws protecting handlers and their service dogs.
>>>>> Deanna
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Marianne Denning [mailto:marianne at denningweb.com]
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 9:47 AM
>>>>> To: Deanna Lewis; Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Oagdu] When and how to file a complaint???
>>>>>
>>>>> First, it is not a civil case.  It is a misdemeanor and the man should
>>>>> be
>>>>> issued a ticket.  That is why having the cards would be so helpful.
>>>>> It explains the law.  I would also call the thrift store today.  I
>>>>> would
>>>>> also contact the police department and demand that the man be charged
>>>>> with a misdemeanor.  If none of that works, I would consider
>>>>> contacting
>>>>> the media. If that doesn't work, let's get a group of people together
>>>>> and
>>>>> picket that store with our dogs.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/20/15, Deanna Lewis via Oagdu <oagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Good morning,
>>>>>> Well, I must say that I am ashamed to not know all the answers on
>>>>>> this...
>>>>>> So, I would like you all to give me some insight on this issue.
>>>>>> I've been a guide dog user for almost 6 years now, and I've had very
>>>>>> few run-ins with people trying to deny me access when travelling with
>>>>>> my guide dog.
>>>>>> Yesterday, my Mom and I were shopping in a thrift store that we visit
>>>>>> fairly often. As we were walking down the first aisle, a gentleman
>>>>>> came up to us and said hello. I could tell that he'd been following
>>>>>> us, so I just knew he was going to say something about my dog.
>>>>>> He came up and told me that they don't allow dogs in there. I told
>>>>>> him
>>>>>> that he is a guide dog and showed him the harness, which very clearly
>>>>>> says "Guide Dogs for the Blind". He continued to argue, and I kept
>>>>>> saying that he is a service dog, and that we've come in here plenty
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> times before. My Mom threatened to call the police, and the guy
>>>>>> continued to tell us that we could not have the dog in there. He then
>>>>>> mumbled something and walked off.
>>>>>> My Mom called the police and they sent an officer, who was basically
>>>>>> useless since he would not even enter the store and would not get
>>>>>> involved since it was a civil case.
>>>>>> My Mom told me that the guy who approached us was the Assistant
>>>>>> Manager, which makes this even more stupid. Well, we didn't leave.
>>>>>> So, my questions are these:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.       What do you do when the police don't want to get involved?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2.       Should I file a complaint, since we weren't physically
>>>>>> kicked
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> of the store?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3.       What are the proper steps for filing a complaint? Who do I
>>>>>> call?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do plan on calling this thrift store's main office and filing a
>>>>>> complaint with them. No one else in the store said anything about my
>>>>>> dog. In fact, they all backed us up, they remember Mr. Pascal very
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>> Again, I know I should know all of these answers already, but I just
>>>>>> want to make sure that I think of everything, and don't miss
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> important.
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Deanna and Mambo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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