[Oagdu] Chinese Bus Service: Shouldn't they be confronted asUber is?
Angel
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Wed Feb 4 19:56:58 UTC 2015
Race or sex is not a choice. Our choice to use animals as service or guides
is a voluntary choice we each make. So comparing the two is wrong. I would
agree with making an issue regarding this companies choice not to provide
accommodation for guides if there were no other means of transport
available. But, this is not the case. Many Asians feel dogs are unclean,
and many eat them in their countries. Should we make them feel
uncomfortable riding with us transport appealing to them. Particularly if
they aren't well acquainted with either our language or customs just to make
a point? When there are other more attractive choices for us to make
regarding transport? I say, we should leave their transport alone, and ride
other forms of transport.
----- Original Message -----
From: "CHRIS TOLLE via Oagdu" <oagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "Deanna Lewis" <DLewis at clovernook.org>; "Ohio Association of Guide Dog
Users List" <oagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Oagdu] Chinese Bus Service: Shouldn't they be confronted
asUber is?
> Morning sir,
>
> When God made me, he added an extra layer of hard headedness. I believe
> that every time we allow any service, organization, company, group or
> entity of any kind to ignore our rights as citizens of the USA, we
> weaken our ability to enforce the rights that we have achieved over the
> past 25 years of ADA. We must stand up to such flagrant disregard for
> the LAW. If they were to refuse service to someone because of their color
> or age, the world would be outraged & marching on the mall in DC. As
> they should. So should we. We must change the world we live in now for
> the better so that my son, who has an eye issue, doesn’t have to face the
> same kind of treatment as I do, we do.
>
> I wouldn’t ride this bus or use this service but…. I would totally ware
> them out with the law. We have a strong voice if we unify & stand as one
> loud voice. We are not here to ask “Please sir, can I have some more.”
> We are demanding our equal place at the table & all rights & privileges
> afforded to the rest of the folks at the table.
>
> tollebooth
>
>
>
>
>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:54 AM, Deanna Lewis via Oagdu <oagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Chaim,
>> I have never heard of this bus service. Do you by any chance remember the
>> name of it? Do they advertise to the public, or mostly to the Asian
>> population? Please don't misinterpret what I am asking, I am just trying
>> to understand this company better, I am not trying to be prejudice.
>> The whole thing sounds shifty, and I don't think I would enjoy riding on
>> this service with or without a dog.
>> Deanna and Pascal
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Oagdu [mailto:oagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chaim B. Segal
>> via Oagdu
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 11:41 PM
>> To: oagdu at nfbnet.org; nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Oagdu] Chinese Bus Service: Shouldn't they be confronted as
>> Uber is?
>>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> As I have been reading the posts on these lists concerning Uber's
>> hearing, a thought is dawning on me which I thought I would put out
>> there.
>>
>> Over the past few years, it seems as though we have had a major increase
>> of Chinese immigrants to Ohio. I'm not sure how many of these people will
>> actually stay around, or how many of them are temporary residents. My
>> apartment complex is swarming with students from the University of
>> Dayton, whose millionaire parents are paying for them to attend school
>> here. I don't think that this group has anything to do with the folks I
>> am mentioning below.
>>
>> Before moving to Brooklyn last year, my oldest brother brought it to our
>> attention that there is now a Chinese bus service which travels between
>> Dayton, Cincinnati, and New York City. Why only these three cities I
>> don't know. Perhaps they stop in other places. Anyway, I was going to use
>> this service to take a trip, and researched the operation online. I
>> called their phone number, and asked the Chinese bloke who answered the
>> phone a few things about their service. As I expected, they had a no pets
>> policy. I then asked them if they were aware of the rights of guide dog
>> users to be accompanied by their guide dogs in travel. The fellow had
>> never heard of guide dog use before. He was adamant that I cannot travel
>> on his service with a dog. Before this, I asked him if I could be given
>> assistance off the bus at rest stops, and he said "no."
>>
>> I reported my finding to Seeing Eye, and I believe it was Walt Sutton who
>> tried to give them a call. The number I passed on to him (which I forget)
>> turned out to be that of a Chinese Restaurant. He recommended that I just
>> not bother with this service, as for all anybody knows, they may be
>> operating somewhat illegally anyway.
>>
>> My oldest brother paid us a visit over the summer and used this Chinese
>> bus service to get himself back to New York. Before using it, he thought
>> it might be a viable means for my (blind) brother and I to travel to and
>> from New York. After using it himself, he has changed his mind. The bus
>> does not stop at any designated station terminal. They pick people up in
>> neighborhoods which are out in the middle of nowhere. In New York, they
>> drop people off in Chinatown, and leave it to them to travel with their
>> luggage to where they need to go. It's more-or-less a bare-bones service.
>> I'm not sure how crowded the buses are, but the bus, according to my
>> brother, is not nearly as comfortable as a Greyhound. Baring this in
>> mind, it's probably not a good idea for any of us to travel on this
>> service using a guide. Moreover, I would probably not go to bat, unless I
>> really thought I would use this service.
>>
>> What does concern me, aside from the fact that to them a guide dog is as
>> good as a pet, is the fact that they seem the least concern with regard
>> to assisting any blind person, even if they are not using a dog.
>> Parenthetically, I believe I asked the guy if their buses had wheelchair
>> lifts, and apparently they don't. It seems to me that this service may be
>> in violation of the ADA under many accounts. I'm wondering if these
>> people should be informed that if they are operating a service in the
>> United States, they must play by the rules. While I strongly feel the
>> answer is obviously "Yes", I'm wondering if taking them to task will
>> really accomplish anything. Somebody told me that the way they can even
>> have a service like this is to do things under the table. Even if they
>> are confronted, will they really listen?
>>
>> What do you all think?
>>
>> Chaim
>>
>> Chaim B. Segal
>> Customer Service Representative: Sinclair Community College, Dayton, Ohio
>>
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