[Oagdu] Pursuing WoodGate Apartments

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>

ACLU is a organization and will defend anyone who has a discrimination
including Service dogs.
My lawyer that hoped me was enough to make sure that my land lord takes u
p the problem't
They are impartial and will defend anyone, including political or any
group or individual
who feels their rights are being trapped on.
One call from the ACLA will make a land lord consider the problem and
would not want any
kind of problem. My land Lord reacted and stood up for MS. P." rights to
be with me.
Me and Ms. P.




Thank you for your post Aleeha and offering the steps to do this.
> I am not very familiar with ACLU, which I found out on Google stands for
> American Civil Liberties Union. What exactly do they do? When is an
> appropriate time to contact them?
> I once lived in an apartment complex and they had a strict one per policy.
> I told them that I currently had a cat, and planned on getting a guide dog
> soon. They said that would not be a problem, since the guide dog would not
> count as a pet. So, sometimes you get someone who is more knowledgeable of
> the laws.
> Lori, please let us know what you find out.
> Deanna and the boys
>
> From: Oagdu [mailto:oagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley
> via Oagdu
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 10:53 AM
> To: Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users List
> Cc: Aleeha Dudley
> Subject: Re: [Oagdu] Pursuing WoodGate Apartments
>
> OK, I would like to address several prior emails in this message, so it
> may be a little long.
> First of all, Angel, are you saying that you are completely OK with
> someone trampling all over your rights, merely because you choose to use a
> guide dog? A guide dog is not a pet, and should not be treated as such.
> Pets are a completely different class of animal that are treated in
> different ways, simply for the pleasure of the owner.
> Next, the law backs us up here. Under the Fair Housing Act, the service or
> assistance animal is to be treated, by the landlord or owner of the
> complex, as a piece of medical equipment. Now, we all know that our dogs
> are much more than that, but that is how the law portrays them, so that
> they can be fully understood by the majority of people that might not
> know. This means that your guide dog cannot be counted against the number
> of animals you are allowed in a given dwelling. No one is skirting the
> rules, we are following the law.
> In order to resolve this complaint, it is not, as was said earlier,
> advisable to contact the ACLU. Your best bet is to do one of three
> things.
> 1 Contact your Fair Housing office.
> 2. Contact an Office for Civil Rights (OCR).
> 3. COntact Disability Rights Ohio if this doesn’t work.
> Annette, a fellow member on this list, has experience with these sorts of
> things, so it is also advisable to talk with her.
> I hope some of the information I have provided is useful. Lori, my email
> address is in my signature, along with my cell phone number, so please
> feel free to contact me with any questions as well.
> Best,
> Aleeha
> Aleeha Dudley and Seeing Eye Dog Dallas
> Vice President, Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users
> Vice President, Ohio Association of Blind Students
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> On May 11, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Andy Leach via Oagdu
> <oagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:oagdu at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>
> Good morning Lori:
>
> It seems to me that the issue here isn’t Gipper at all, but the total
> number of pets allowed by this apartment complex per unit.  If you had a
> situation where they were indicating that your guide dog is too big and
> violates the pet policy, or that they wouldn’t allow him there at all,
> then you would definitely have a valid complaint moving forward.  However,
> I’m not knowledgeable enough about the laws to know if Gipper simply
> cannot be counted as an animal who lives there so that your pet count
> stays within the limits.  Having a quick conversation with a lawyer should
> be adequate enough to let you know whether you have solid ground to move
> ahead.
>
> If it were me, I’d look for a house or a double and rent from an
> individual owner to avoid these kinds of blanket policies that a larger
> apartment complex has to have in place so that order is maintained.  Best
> of luck and please let us know what you decide and how it works out.
>
> Andy and Brie
> From: Oagdu [mailto:oagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lori Dent via
> Oagdu
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 1:01 AM
> To: Ohio Guide Dogs
> Cc: Lori Dent
> Subject: [Oagdu] Pursueing WoodGate Apartments
>
> Hi fellow Guide Dog Users  of Ohio,
>
> I would like to discuss more about the issue I'm having with the WoodGate
> Apartments regarding   their policy of pets  and my guide dog Gipp.
>
> I want to go about this the right way and with the correct information I
> will need to help me  be able to have both my pet dog and cat  and my
> guide dog   living with me if I want to be able to live in these
> apartments.
>
> My fiancee Rick and I did go up and talk to the management of these
> WoodGate Apartments  but we didn't fill out any application  as of yet.
>
> The management pet policy is one dog and one cat only. So I'm thinking I
> should be able to have my pet dog and my cat of course I will need to pay
> for them. Which I have no problem with but on the other hand I should be
> able to have my guide dog there  at no charge and not count him in the
> house hold he's my   mobility aide  and not a pet. The management says I
> can't have 2 dogs and a cat or two cats and a dog for example but just one
> dog and a cat.
>
> I'm not giving up my pets  and  I want to be able to  have the opportunity
> to live here if I choose to with my pet animals and my guide dog. One of
> the reasons we considered  this apartment complex is because they allow
> dogs  and cats so I figured this would be perfect   for us with my 2 pets
> and Gipp wouldn't be a issue. But I'm not giving up my Chihuahua  just so
> I can have my guide dog . I should be able to have both dogs and my cat.
>
> I never had a issue like this before and I need some guidance on how to
> go about this.
>
> Do you all think I should pursue  this?
>
> Also, I don't have Deanna's  email address or Alleha's  email address and
> I was wondering if you 2 could send me your emails off list to me.?
> Thanks.
>
> Lori and the Gipper
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