[Ohio-talk] Ohio-talk Digest, Vol 70, Issue 17

Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1977 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 19 15:13:27 UTC 2013


Hello Everyone, 

I want to start off by saying that I am glad to be bac amongst  my nfb of Ohio family  again. Furthermore,  I would like to say Thank You to everyone for whom wished me well when I had left briefly  to relocate  to Las Vegas Nevada back in September.  I mostly  was taken. Aback  by the tremendous  amount  of love and support that I had  received from everyone in our State.  It meant so much to me at that particular  point in time, like it means to me  right now. 
For the first time in my life.  I have felt like I truly  do belong  I would. Like  to clear. Up  a few  things in regards;  to my  not  being mentioned  as a volenteer  of our very first Bell program.  First off  I was  not refering  to  our State publication  for which I was mentioned in etc. I was in fact, refering to the  National Braille Monitor  Publication.  I spoke with Debbie Baker on Tuesday evening in regards to this particular manor.  Furthermore,  I do appreciate everyone's support  on this issue.  I  was not upset about my name not being in the National  publication  I was just curious  that's all really. I therefore, do not hold any kind of grudges  towards anyone within our state. Etc. That is not the kind of person that Iam.   I work for the over all good of the nfb  of Ohio and the nfb at large etc.  Besides I was  an enquirey  about it not  trying to start  any bad blood with anyone etc. 
For the record; Personally I have to hold hardly agree with Eric and Collen about publishing appropriate  materials  of content that is primeraly  nfb  related. Everything  else that is not related to the ultimate  growth  and development  of our movement  as an Orgnization Should be addressed in a more private  setting. 
Thank you all for your continued  love and support. 
Sincerely, Nfb Cleveland Chapter member Chenelle Hancock. 
Have a terrific day everyone. Sent from my iPhone

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>   1. Re: fyi (Annette Lutz)
>   2. Thanks for every thing and I love the NFB (richard payne)
>   3. Re: fyi (COLLEEN ROTH)
>   4. Re: Buckeye Update (COLLEEN ROTH)
>   5. Re: fyi (Smith, JW)
>   6. Re: fyi (COLLEEN ROTH)
>   7. Cleveland Thursday evening (Eric Duffy)
>   8. Re: fyi (COLLEEN ROTH)
>   9. Past & Current Presidents, & My NFB Family (Everett Gavel)
>  10. Look and Listen Please? (Smith, JW)
>  11. Re: Look and Listen Please? (Macy McClain)
>  12. Focus Group (Suzanne Turner)
>  13. Re: Look and Listen Please? (COLLEEN ROTH)
>  14. Re: Focus Group (COLLEEN ROTH)
>  15. Re: Look and Listen Please? (Eric Burghardt)
>  16. Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] The NFB Needs You to TEACH
>      Congress a Lesson with Me! (Marianne Denning)
> 
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 08:15:08 -0500
> From: "Annette Lutz" <annettelutz at att.net>
> To: "'NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'"
>    <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] fyi
> Message-ID: <001301cefbf3$2d87c3e0$88974ba0$@att.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Good Morning everyone,
> 
> I have been a part of this list for some time, and haven't participated in
> much of the conversation because I am so new to the organization, and until
> fairly recently, haven't been too involved in the NFBO outside of my work
> with the Merchants Division.  I have stayed out of the "politics" that
> naturally come with all groups, because of my newness.  I have sat back and
> listened and learned because it is my sincere hope that someday, after
> learning as much as I can, that I can be a better contributor to this
> wonderful organization. I have learned a lot, and after learning so much
> about the NFB philosophy and the great work that is done, I feel stronger
> about my affiliation with this group, and hope that in my small way, that I
> can be of some help to the cause in the future.
> 
> However, after reading the current thread of email, I have been extremely
> concerned about some things.  Most notably, I see from the point of view of
> someone that really doesn't know most of the players personally and who
> doesn't know much of the history, that this type of personal attacks is very
> discouraging to read.  I have noted that outside of fundraising, one of the
> top goals of the affiliate is the increase of membership. From the point of
> view of an "outsider" this type of continued thread could have the opposite
> effect.  If I hadn't been sitting back and listening for some time now, and
> had just gotten on this list recently, maybe after just attending my first
> convention, this type of attacking could have put me off of the entire
> group.  I hope that this isn't the case for any new people who might be
> reading this list, because the group is so much more than is being portrayed
> here.
> 
> Since I have began my involvement with the affiliate outside of the
> Merchants Division, I have felt completely included in anything that I had
> interest in.  I enjoy reading the weekly updates from Eric, and the
> wonderful newsletter that Barbara puts together.  I have gotten the
> opportunity to meet many people through the conventions that I have attended
> and my involvement with last summer's BELL program, and I have recently
> become more involved in the Columbus Chapter, who have been very inclusive
> and welcomed me openly.  I am certain that any other Chapter would have done
> the same if I lived in those areas as well.  In fact, I have felt that some
> have gone out of their way to make me feel welcome to this group, and have
> told me that my ideas and opinions are welcome.  I believe that everyone
> else is given that same welcoming approach.  So what I am asking is that the
> personal attacks please stop on this list.  It is natural for their to be
> disagreements, and the fact that people feel so strongly about their opinion
> only emphasizes the passion that is felt about doing the work of the NFB,
> but when those passions reach the point of attack, it hurts the group, and
> could push away future leaders who might not have had the opportunity yet to
> learn what the NFB is all about.
> 
> Just my thoughts.
> 
> Everyone have a very Merry Christmas, and let's have a great 2014 making
> this affiliate an even stronger and better one than it already is.
> 
> Annette Lutz 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cheryl
> Fields
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:04 PM
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] fyi
> 
> Eric,
> 
> You are absolutely right, thank you for adding me to ohio talk. I also thank
> you and the board for allowing me time for the Domestic Violence talk and
> Break Out Session. I am looking forward to expanding this in the near future
> and would love to discuss this further with you.
> 
> My comments are not ment to hurt anyone, exclude others or cause a rift
> among the membership, but I thought we were having great dialogue about
> importan issues concerning nfb. I feel strongly about these issues and don't
> mind being vocal, like others. However, I think you and Richard should iron
> out your differences privately. As president, I hold you to a higher
> standard, as well as Richard and when both of you begin to bicker publicly
> it effects the whole group. Again, in my opinion, Barbara should have stayed
> out of it andI should not have responded to her comments, this is not our
> fight. Aleeah sent me a message that I responded to honestly. I thought I
> have always made it clear that If I do not have the correct information
> please straighten me out. The convention info was made very clear in
> Shelby's notes and I asked a question in an earlier email asking, can we
> give proposals to board members for future consideration of convention
> locations, no one asked answered me yet. I am not infallible, and it is a
> moot point, the main issue is how do we come together for the benefit of the
> organization? I offered a suggestion and have gotten no response from you or
> any board member. This is interesting to me, but I have a response to my
> remarks on the efforts of the Cleveland chapters involvement, and coments on
> who's right and who's wrong. Sometime ago I sent you a private email about
> setting some guidelines for Ohio Talk, no response from you, so I am
> suggesting it again. Maybe we can ask each chapter to make a list for the
> board to consider, Ohio Talk Ettiquet. Are any of us perfect? The ability to
> communicate is a beautiful skill and can sometimes be painful or unpleasant,
> but in the end accomplishing an understanding among everyone is what counts,
> even if we disagree. So, I am asking you to take some time to think about
> what is really going on,who are the people you may need to reach out and
> smooth some feathers, evaluate if any of this talk has merit, and how to
> come together. Finally, make your way to Cleveland for the party and we can
> talk face to face, because I prefer not to be placed in the position of
> appearing to be against leadership in any way. I happen to sit on another
> board and am quite awae of how important solidarity is, I also am a leader
> in other organizations and know that it is not a easy job. We can all learn
> from each other if we first learn how to listen, sometimes the most
> important message is in the silence.
> I will say Happy New Year to All now because I am taking a break from Ohio
> Talk for the holidays, Blessings,
> 
> Cheryl Fields
>> On 12/17/13, richard payne <rchpay7 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> We all have our opinions. Richard
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Aleeha Dudley
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:59 PM
>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] fyi
>> 
>> Hello Richard and All,
>> 
>>     As someone who was on the board meeting last Tuesday evening, I 
>> feel I must weigh in on this conversation. I must respectfully 
>> disagree with you, Richard, on the points you make. I truly and firmly 
>> believe that the board of directors, chosen, I might add, by our state 
>> Federation membership, I might add, has the best interests of the 
>> affiliate at heart. As you know, the affiliate is in dire financial 
>> straits right now and cannot afford to keep having the convention in a 
>> location where it will take massive expenditures to get members of the 
>> board there. If we keep having to spend this much money on the board 
>> alone, how can we expect to get new people to the convention?
>>     I also must say that, having heard exactly what happened at the 
>> board meeting, there was consideration given to your idea of exploring 
>> different locations for the hotel since we had such issues with the
> Wyndham Garden.
>> We
>> were all advised, however, that the money just wasn't there to fund 
>> such a committee, because, after all, this will still cost the state.
>>     As for the statement that the board cares not for our membership, 
>> again, I must disagree. Eric openly invited members and discussion to 
>> this meeting. He has always been transparent with the affairs of this 
>> affiliate, and I would think that you would know that, working hand in
> hand with him.
>>     As for this "team player" bit, I must wholeheartedly agree with Eric.
>> A
>> team player is just that: he works to support the team and does not 
>> flay the head of such team on an open forum such as this. A team 
>> player brings these concerns directly to the head of the team, as well 
>> as the rest of the board.
>> A team player fully and wholeheartedly supports the Federation.
>>     As for Cheryl's comments, Eric had his reasons, I am sure, for 
>> not holding a BELL program in Cleveland, on top of the one planned in
> Columbus.
>> It was the first year of the program, so naturally we needed to start 
>> small.
>> It was difficult to know how well the program was going to go, if it 
>> would go at all, so naturally, our efforts needed to be centrally 
>> located and focused on one common goal. There was also not enough 
>> money for Ohio to support a second program. Chinelle got, as I did, an 
>> email from Eric, expressing his sincere gratitude for her assistance with
> the BELL program.
>> 
>> These are just my thoughts and I will continue to work my tail off for 
>> this Federation because I consider them a better family than my own right
> now.
>> Issues will arise in every family, but they should be properly 
>> addressed, so as not to undermine the strong foundation of the family.
>> 
>> Just my humble opinion,
>> Aleeha Dudley
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/17/13, Eric Duffy <eduffy at deltav.org> wrote:
>>> Richard,
>>> 
>>> Although these are not the kinds of emails I would like to see on a 
>>> public listserv, I am compelled to respond to this one since you have 
>>> publically thrown down the gauntlet.
>>> 
>>> I agree with you that we need to include and involve our membership. 
>>> I too believe that the board should be responsive to the membership 
>>> as much as possible while performing the role it was elected to carry 
>>> out. Those two things are not one in the same. You say, "I think that 
>>> the call last week was in part designed to limit the input on some of 
>>> the things we spoke about.  When the information was put out, it made 
>>> it seem that only the board would need to be present and maybe this 
>>> is why several members did not
>>> participate.    I think some members of our leadership make others feel
>>> left
>>> out and do not open   the doors until money or work is needed. "
>>> 
>>> In the Buckeye Update dated December 6, 2013 I said, "I have called a 
>>> meeting of the board of directors of the National Federation of the 
>>> Blind of Ohio for Tuesday evening at 8:00 PM. We had a December 
>>> meeting last year at which time I appointed the committees that will 
>>> do much of the work of the organization. I plan to appoint committees
>>> on Tuesday. We will also discuss the 2014 convention and our next 
>>> scholarship program. We will also set the date for our January 
>>> meeting. Other business might arise, but only if it absolutely must 
>>> be discussed before our January meeting.
>>>    You do not have to be a member of the board to participate in these 
>>> meetings. I encourage you to join us. Shortly before 8:00 PM.  On 
>>> Tuesday call (605) 475-4875. When prompted, use access code 201909 
>>> followed by the pound sign."
>>> 
>>> Kyle Conley, Paul Dressell, Aleeha Dudley, and Colleen Roth 
>>> participated in the call but are not on the board. Aleeha and Kyle 
>>> are two of our younger members, and I'm glad they were there.
>>> 
>>> You say, "I am a team player and serve for all Federationists." When 
>>> I think of a team player, I think of one who's head and heart are in 
>>> the game at all times. I think of one who supports the team even when 
>>> there is disagreement among team members. This type of email going to 
>>> a public list does not seem to me to be what a "team player" would 
>>> send. A team player would not have led his chapter out of the banquet 
>>> before the fundraising period, particularly after having received an 
>>> award from that organization. We have had the Scrip program for two 
>>> years now, and, though you have made noises about joining it, you 
>>> have still not done so. Is that being a team player?
>>> 
>>> In the January 2013 board meeting you publically accused me of 
>>> intimidating the board. To this day I know of no one who supported 
>>> your position. That to my mind does not represent a team player.
>>> 
>>> At the Sunday morning session of this years convention you publically 
>>> accused me of reading amendments  to the constitution that had not 
>>> been brought to the board. You might say that you were just asking a 
>>> question, but your question was really an accusation. As vice 
>>> president I would never have asked Barbara or JW such a question on 
>>> the convention floor. If I were concerned that something was being 
>>> slid past the membership, I would have quietly come to the head table 
>>> and raised the question with a recommendation that things be made 
>>> absolutely clear.
>>> 
>>> Those who are intelligent do not need to tell the rest of the world 
>>> how bright they are. It shows! Those who are wealthy don't need to 
>>> tell the world how rich they are. Again, it shows!  Yet I often hear 
>>> you refer to yourself as a "team player." The instances I have 
>>> sighted above I fear speak louder than words. We are members of the 
>>> administration, and we must find a way of getting along and working 
>>> for the same goals. Blind Ohioans deserve no less. I suggest that we 
>>> pursue this discussion off list in the hope that we can agree to work 
>>> together. We have a lot of years of doing so. Surely we can find some 
>>> trust and common ground.
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> 
>>> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 08:28:21 -0500
> From: "richard payne" <rchpay7 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'"
>    <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] Thanks for every thing and I love the NFB
> Message-ID: <005501cefbf5$05de3110$119a9330$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> I would also like to thank you for your involvement. We are not fighting and
> in family's you will find that members do lash out. I will always state what
> I feel and for those who read this Eric and I are going to keep doing what
> we do. I hope that we can always have the ability to work together as a
> group. Because I am in customer service happy holidays Richard
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cheryl
> Fields
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:04 PM
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] fyi
> 
> Eric,
> 
> You are absolutely right, thank you for adding me to ohio talk. I also thank
> you and the board for allowing me time for the Domestic Violence talk and
> Break Out Session. I am looking forward to expanding this in the near future
> and would love to discuss this further with you.
> 
> My comments are not ment to hurt anyone, exclude others or cause a rift
> among the membership, but I thought we were having great dialogue about
> importan issues concerning nfb. I feel strongly about these issues and don't
> mind being vocal, like others. However, I think you and Richard should iron
> out your differences privately. As president, I hold you to a higher
> standard, as well as Richard and when both of you begin to bicker publicly
> it effects the whole group. Again, in my opinion, Barbara should have stayed
> out of it andI should not have responded to her comments, this is not our
> fight. Aleeah sent me a message that I responded to honestly. I thought I
> have always made it clear that If I do not have the correct information
> please straighten me out. The convention info was made very clear in
> Shelby's notes and I asked a question in an earlier email asking, can we
> give proposals to board members for future consideration of convention
> locations, no one asked answered me yet. I am not infallible, and it is a
> moot point, the main issue is how do we come together for the benefit of the
> organization? I offered a suggestion and have gotten no response from you or
> any board member. This is interesting to me, but I have a response to my
> remarks on the efforts of the Cleveland chapters involvement, and coments on
> who's right and who's wrong. Sometime ago I sent you a private email about
> setting some guidelines for Ohio Talk, no response from you, so I am
> suggesting it again. Maybe we can ask each chapter to make a list for the
> board to consider, Ohio Talk Ettiquet. Are any of us perfect? The ability to
> communicate is a beautiful skill and can sometimes be painful or unpleasant,
> but in the end accomplishing an understanding among everyone is what counts,
> even if we disagree. So, I am asking you to take some time to think about
> what is really going on,who are the people you may need to reach out and
> smooth some feathers, evaluate if any of this talk has merit, and how to
> come together. Finally, make your way to Cleveland for the party and we can
> talk face to face, because I prefer not to be placed in the position of
> appearing to be against leadership in any way. I happen to sit on another
> board and am quite awae of how important solidarity is, I also am a leader
> in other organizations and know that it is not a easy job. We can all learn
> from each other if we first learn how to listen, sometimes the most
> important message is in the silence.
> I will say Happy New Year to All now because I am taking a break from Ohio
> Talk for the holidays, Blessings,
> 
> Cheryl Fields
>> On 12/17/13, richard payne <rchpay7 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> We all have our opinions. Richard
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Aleeha Dudley
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:59 PM
>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] fyi
>> 
>> Hello Richard and All,
>> 
>>     As someone who was on the board meeting last Tuesday evening, I 
>> feel I must weigh in on this conversation. I must respectfully 
>> disagree with you, Richard, on the points you make. I truly and firmly 
>> believe that the board of directors, chosen, I might add, by our state 
>> Federation membership, I might add, has the best interests of the 
>> affiliate at heart. As you know, the affiliate is in dire financial 
>> straits right now and cannot afford to keep having the convention in a 
>> location where it will take massive expenditures to get members of the 
>> board there. If we keep having to spend this much money on the board 
>> alone, how can we expect to get new people to the convention?
>>     I also must say that, having heard exactly what happened at the 
>> board meeting, there was consideration given to your idea of exploring 
>> different locations for the hotel since we had such issues with the
> Wyndham Garden.
>> We
>> were all advised, however, that the money just wasn't there to fund 
>> such a committee, because, after all, this will still cost the state.
>>     As for the statement that the board cares not for our membership, 
>> again, I must disagree. Eric openly invited members and discussion to 
>> this meeting. He has always been transparent with the affairs of this 
>> affiliate, and I would think that you would know that, working hand in
> hand with him.
>>     As for this "team player" bit, I must wholeheartedly agree with Eric.
>> A
>> team player is just that: he works to support the team and does not 
>> flay the head of such team on an open forum such as this. A team 
>> player brings these concerns directly to the head of the team, as well 
>> as the rest of the board.
>> A team player fully and wholeheartedly supports the Federation.
>>     As for Cheryl's comments, Eric had his reasons, I am sure, for 
>> not holding a BELL program in Cleveland, on top of the one planned in
> Columbus.
>> It was the first year of the program, so naturally we needed to start 
>> small.
>> It was difficult to know how well the program was going to go, if it 
>> would go at all, so naturally, our efforts needed to be centrally 
>> located and focused on one common goal. There was also not enough 
>> money for Ohio to support a second program. Chinelle got, as I did, an 
>> email from Eric, expressing his sincere gratitude for her assistance with
> the BELL program.
>> 
>> These are just my thoughts and I will continue to work my tail off for 
>> this Federation because I consider them a better family than my own right
> now.
>> Issues will arise in every family, but they should be properly 
>> addressed, so as not to undermine the strong foundation of the family.
>> 
>> Just my humble opinion,
>> Aleeha Dudley
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/17/13, Eric Duffy <eduffy at deltav.org> wrote:
>>> Richard,
>>> 
>>> Although these are not the kinds of emails I would like to see on a 
>>> public listserv, I am compelled to respond to this one since you have 
>>> publically thrown down the gauntlet.
>>> 
>>> I agree with you that we need to include and involve our membership. 
>>> I too believe that the board should be responsive to the membership 
>>> as much as possible while performing the role it was elected to carry 
>>> out. Those two things are not one in the same. You say, "I think that 
>>> the call last week was in part designed to limit the input on some of 
>>> the things we spoke about.  When the information was put out, it made 
>>> it seem that only the board would need to be present and maybe this 
>>> is why several members did not
>>> participate.    I think some members of our leadership make others feel
>>> left
>>> out and do not open   the doors until money or work is needed. "
>>> 
>>> In the Buckeye Update dated December 6, 2013 I said, "I have called a 
>>> meeting of the board of directors of the National Federation of the 
>>> Blind of Ohio for Tuesday evening at 8:00 PM. We had a December 
>>> meeting last year at which time I appointed the committees that will 
>>> do much of the work of the organization. I plan to appoint committees
>>> on Tuesday. We will also discuss the 2014 convention and our next 
>>> scholarship program. We will also set the date for our January 
>>> meeting. Other business might arise, but only if it absolutely must 
>>> be discussed before our January meeting.
>>>    You do not have to be a member of the board to participate in these 
>>> meetings. I encourage you to join us. Shortly before 8:00 PM.  On 
>>> Tuesday call (605) 475-4875. When prompted, use access code 201909 
>>> followed by the pound sign."
>>> 
>>> Kyle Conley, Paul Dressell, Aleeha Dudley, and Colleen Roth 
>>> participated in the call but are not on the board. Aleeha and Kyle 
>>> are two of our younger members, and I'm glad they were there.
>>> 
>>> You say, "I am a team player and serve for all Federationists." When 
>>> I think of a team player, I think of one who's head and heart are in 
>>> the game at all times. I think of one who supports the team even when 
>>> there is disagreement among team members. This type of email going to 
>>> a public list does not seem to me to be what a "team player" would 
>>> send. A team player would not have led his chapter out of the banquet 
>>> before the fundraising period, particularly after having received an 
>>> award from that organization. We have had the Scrip program for two 
>>> years now, and, though you have made noises about joining it, you 
>>> have still not done so. Is that being a team player?
>>> 
>>> In the January 2013 board meeting you publically accused me of 
>>> intimidating the board. To this day I know of no one who supported 
>>> your position. That to my mind does not represent a team player.
>>> 
>>> At the Sunday morning session of this years convention you publically 
>>> accused me of reading amendments  to the constitution that had not 
>>> been brought to the board. You might say that you were just asking a 
>>> question, but your question was really an accusation. As vice 
>>> president I would never have asked Barbara or JW such a question on 
>>> the convention floor. If I were concerned that something was being 
>>> slid past the membership, I would have quietly come to the head table 
>>> and raised the question with a recommendation that things be made 
>>> absolutely clear.
>>> 
>>> Those who are intelligent do not need to tell the rest of the world 
>>> how bright they are. It shows! Those who are wealthy don't need to 
>>> tell the world how rich they are. Again, it shows!  Yet I often hear 
>>> you refer to yourself as a "team player." The instances I have 
>>> sighted above I fear speak louder than words. We are members of the 
>>> administration, and we must find a way of getting along and working 
>>> for the same goals. Blind Ohioans deserve no less. I suggest that we 
>>> pursue this discussion off list in the hope that we can agree to work 
>>> together. We have a lot of years of doing so. Surely we can find some 
>>> trust and common ground.
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 08:51:32 -0500
> From: COLLEEN ROTH <n8tnv at att.net>
> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] fyi
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> Hello Alleha and All,
> I have been concerned for a long time about how we use this listserv. I in fact have put things on it that should not have been placed on it.
> We need to deal with concerns by addressing the people involved privately. If this doesn't work we should then bring these matters to the Board.
> I think Eric and Aleeha stated it very well.
> This whole thing makes me very sad.
> In the past there have been issues of concern but we have handled them with discretion and honesty.
> We have not sniped at each publicly except in rare instances. We have behaved as ladies and gentlemen and still gotten our point across.
> We are indeed a family. I than God everyday for the NFB but right now I just feel a rather deep sadness.
> Some of us are not going anywhere and we are going to continue to work for the blind of this state and the nation.
> When you wonder why something is done in a certain way why not ask the person or persons who make the decision.
> I do not know of any State who had more the one BELL Program in xs' first year.
> Could we please act like grownups and handle dissention and misunderstanding with honesty and integrity.
> I may not always agree with someone but I have learned over the years that tact far outweighs the I didn't get to do what I wanted to do Mentality.
> Let's start susporting each other and working together.
> When I first joined the NFB do you think I really wanted to smpport the rights of Dog Guide Owners. I didn't but it was best for everyone. Demonstrating at a NAC Meeting was really over the top for me but being a member of the NFB meant that I supported these two efforts.
> I wasn't thrilled about the NFB Driverless Car but I supported the reasoning behind this effort.
> Some people get a lot done because they work with others and do not tear others down to get what they want.
> We all need to work together and be considerate of other people.
> I for one appreciate Eric's Leadership and experience. That doesn't mean that I agree with everything he docs. I can't think of anything right now that I have disagreed with however. If I have a concern I will share it privately.
> Change is good as long as we don't change just to change.
> Colleen Roth
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Aleeha Dudley <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 6:00 pm
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] fyi
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello Richard and All,
>> 
>>     As someone who was on the board meeting last Tuesday evening, I
>> feel I must weigh in on this conversation. I must respectfully
>> disagree with you, Richard, on the points you make. I truly and firmly
>> believe that the board of directors, chosen, I might add, by our state
>> Federation membership, I might add, has the best interests of the
>> affiliate at heart. As you know, the affiliate is in dire financial
>> straits right now and cannot afford to keep having the convention in a
>> location where it will take massive expenditures to get members of the
>> board there. If we keep having to spend this much money on the board
>> alone, how can we expect to get new people to the convention?
>>     I also must say that, having heard exactly what happened at the
>> board meeting, there was consideration given to your idea of exploring
>> different locations for the hotel since we had such issues with the
>> Wyndham Garden. We were all advised, however, that the money just
>> wasn't there to fund such a committee, because, after all, this will
>> still cost the state.
>>     As for the statement that the board cares not for our membership,
>> again, I must disagree. Eric openly invited members and discussion to
>> this meeting. He has always been transparent with the affairs of this
>> affiliate, and I would think that you would know that, working hand in
>> hand with him.
>>     As for this "team player" bit, I must wholeheartedly agree with
>> Eric. A team player is just that: he works to support the team and
>> does not flay the head of such team on an open forum such as this. A
>> team player brings these concerns directly to the head of the team, as
>> well as the rest of the board. A team player fully and wholeheartedly
>> supports the Federation.
>>     As for Cheryl's comments, Eric had his reasons, I am sure, for
>> not holding a BELL program in Cleveland, on top of the one planned in
>> Columbus. It was the first year of the program, so naturally we needed
>> to start small. It was difficult to know how well the program was
>> going to go, if it would go at all, so naturally, our efforts needed
>> to be centrally located and focused on one common goal. There was also
>> not enough money for Ohio to support a second program. Chinelle got,
>> as I did, an email from Eric, expressing his sincere gratitude for her
>> assistance with the BELL program.
>> 
>> These are just my thoughts and I will continue to work my tail off for
>> this Federation because I consider them a better family than my own
>> right now. Issues will arise in every family, but they should be
>> properly addressed, so as not to undermine the strong foundation of
>> the family.
>> 
>> Just my humble opinion,
>> Aleeha Dudley
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/17/13, Eric Duffy <eduffy at deltav.org> wrote:
>>> Richard,
>>> 
>>> Although these are not the kinds of emails I would like to see on a public
>>> listserv, I am compelled to respond to this one since you have publically
>>> thrown down the gauntlet.
>>> 
>>> I agree with you that we need to include and involve our membership. I too
>>> believe that the board should be responsive to the membership as much as
>>> possible while performing the role it was elected to carry out. Those two
>>> things are not one in the same. You say, "I think that the call last week
>>> was in part designed to limit the input on some of the things we spoke
>>> about.  When the information was put out, it made it seem that only the
>>> board would need to be present and maybe this is why several members did
>>> not
>>> participate.    I think some members of our leadership make others feel
>>> left
>>> out and do not open   the doors until money or work is needed. his
>>> 
>>> In the Buckeye Update dated December 6, 2013 I said, "I have called a
>>> meeting of the board of directors of the National Federation of the Blind
>>> of
>>> Ohio for Tuesday evening at 8:00 PM. We had a December meeting last year at
>>> which time I appointed the committees that will do much of the work of the
>>> organization. I plan to appoint committees on Tuesday. We will also discuss
>>> the 2014 convention and our next scholarship program. We will also set the
>>> date for our January meeting. Other business might arise, but only if it
>>> absolutely must be discussed before our January meeting.
>>> You do not have to be a member of the board to participate in these
>>> meetings. I encourage you to join us. Shortly before 8:00 PM.  On Tuesday
>>> call (605) 475-4875. When prompted, use access code 201909 followed by the
>>> pound sign."
>>> 
>>> Kyle Conley, Paul Dressell, Aleeha Dudley, and Colleen Roth participated in
>>> the call but are not on the board. Aleeha and Kyle are two of our younger
>>> members, and I'm glad they were there.
>>> 
>>> You say, "I am a team player and serve for all Federationists." When I
>>> think
>>> of a team player, I think of one who's head and heart are in the game at
>>> all
>>> times. I think of one who supports the team even when there is disagreement
>>> among team members. This type of email going to a public list does not seem
>>> to me to be what a "team player" would send. A team player would not have
>>> led his chapter out of the banquet before the fundraising period,
>>> particularly after having received an award from that organization. We have
>>> had the Scrip program for two years now, and, though you have made noises
>>> about joining it, you have still not done so. Is that being a team player?
>>> 
>>> In the January 2013 board meeting you publically accused me of intimidating
>>> the board. To this day I know of no one who supported your position. That
>>> to
>>> my mind does not represent a team player.
>>> 
>>> At the Sunday morning session of this years convention you publically
>>> accused me of reading amendments  to the constitution that had not been
>>> brought to the board. You might say that you were just asking a question,
>>> but your question was really an accusation. As vice president I would never
>>> have asked Barbara or JW such a question on the convention floor. If I were
>>> concerned that something was being slid past the membership, I would have
>>> quietly come to the head table and raised the question with a
>>> recommendation
>>> that things be made absolutely clear.
>>> 
>>> Those who are intelligent do not need to tell the rest of the world how
>>> bright they are. It shows! Those who are wealthy don't need to tell the
>>> world how rich they are. Again, it shows!  Yet I often hear you refer to
>>> yourself as a "team player." The instances I have sighted above I fear
>>> speak
>>> louder than words. We are members of the administration, and we must find a
>>> way of getting along and working for the same goals. Blind Ohioans deserve
>>> no less. I suggest that we pursue this discussion off list in the hope that
>>> we can agree to work together. We have a lot of years of doing so. Surely
>>> we
>>> can find some trust and common ground.
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> 
>>> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 08:51:58 -0500
> From: COLLEEN ROTH <n8tnv at att.net>
> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Buckeye Update
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> Hello Cheryl and All,
> I certainly think that we have had some discussion of our short-term and long-term goals.
> IT is impoqtant to have input from those in the NFBO but there are some things that aren't negotiable. These are things which are required in our Constitution and our Resolutions.
> We also must be sure to follow National policies.
> None of us will agree with everything but we should still work for the policies the NFB and NFBO have established.
> Thinking outside the box is good. There needs to be creativity but there also needs to be a balance to meet the needs of everyone.
> Our primary interest is blind people. We do need to involve everyone but there are some people who need extra assistance to understand what is happening.
> Sometimes it is helpful for someone from a person's local chapter to work with someone who is not able to function within the constraints of a meeting.
> I am glad we are trying to get a Deaf Blind Division in Ohio.
> Leaders do not need to be members of the Board. Leaders are people who volunteer to do things, do what they are asked to do including followthrough and accept the fact that not all ideas will be implemented.
> I can say that I have never been shy about expressing my opinions. I am trying to listen to suggestions from others. If we try something and it doesn't work we should be willing to go back to something which did work.
> I am going to throw something out to see what happens.
> This is thinking out of the box. Some of us do not have the stamina to travel to a Convention on Friday morning.
> What about some of you who live where a Convention is being held being hosts for Thursday night if people have a long way to travel or do not have the Stamina to leave early Friday morning?
> I do not know how many people would need or want to do this but it might be helpful.
> I know that some people might not want someone to stay with them and that it might not be convenient because they are getting ready for the Convention.
> This is just a thought.
> What about getting people signed up for the Convention by getting people booked on a Megabus?
> I understand if you do this early you can get really lucky with rates.
> Some of us who have been around for a while have some tricks of the trade which might have those who come to Convention.
> Colleen Roth
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cheryl Fields <cherylelaine1957 at gmail.com>
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 3:27 pm
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Buckeye Update
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Seasons Greetings To All,
>> 
>> This is a great dialogue! What I have learned,
>> 1. We are concerned about the future
>> 2. It is difficult for us to provide and accept honest constructive criticism
>> 3. some things need to change
>> 
>> I am more of a solution type of person, not that anyone must use my
>> ideas, however there times we should think outside of the box and
>> someone needs to stimulate the process and I have no problem with
>> being that voice!
>> 
>> With any organization that wants to continue good, positive forward
>> movementeaand growth a periodic assessment should be required and
>> welcomed. One simple method would be to survey the membership using
>> the SWOT method.
>> S Stregnths
>> 
>> W Weaknesses
>> 
>> O Opportunities
>> 
>> T Threats
>> 
>> This allows us to know where we standeabbf continuing down dead end
>> avenues. Next, evaluate information provided from survey and
>> plan/structure for the future. Most Colleges and Universities have
>> graduate students in areas of marketing, finance, non profit
>> management,  and leadership development that  are seeking unique
>> projects for completion of graduation requirements. NFB could explore
>> this option, it costs nothingeaw lend new energey, objectivity, and
>> a platform for serious renewal of organization. In addition, provides
>> a framework that leadership can use to tailor make into a strategic
>> plan that best suits us. Within this process nfb will connect to some
>> minds greater and a little more open than ours to change. To
>> accomplish this task, a special committee could be appointed, using
>> the wealth of knowledge and experience of our current Vice President
>> combined with past Presidents, a parent and a student. These
>> individuals can oversee the new project, report to Eric and the board
>> regularlly, and leave Eric free to maintain the daily/routine
>> obligations of his Presidency. As a member of nfb/ohio, I have every
>> confidence that this can be accomplished and would prove beneficial to
>> the affiliate.
>> The current and past leadership have performed their duties with the
>> confidence and assurance of support from the membership, safeguarding
>> the future of the organization, and I appreciate and applaud  each
>> one, it is not easy. We are in a great position for change, and
>> possibly providing leadership and direction for other affilieates that
>> are struggling with these same issues. Every company, non profit,
>> church, and school is facing the effects of changes in our downturned
>> economy.  nfb is not the exception, we may be the model!
>> 
>> Covention, after reading Shelby's notes, it is clear to me that we can
>> provide proposals for future coventions to board members and will be
>> allowed full consideration. If this is not true, please correct me,
>> soon. Because you know I believe in having a plan, smile.
>> It is my experience that a covention should encompass a variety of
>> elements that will contribute to it's success with the most important
>> focus being to fulfill the mission /purpose of the organization.
>> 1. should be affordable to members, and provide some assistance to
>> those that cannot afford the entire expense
>> 2. Informative and Interactive, taking into consideration those with
>> other disabilities and how to keep them engaged
>> 3. Should engage and impact the community it is held in, we are
>> consumers and bring dollars to every city  and we should leave them
>> with more than just a plus sign in their profit margin
>> 4. Has the possibility to generate funds for the organization and
>> others living with phisical and visual challenges
>> 5. Participants should always leave wanting more!
>> 
>> Let me be clear,
>> I do not think a cobention is a vacation, the many coventions I have
>> attended tired me out and I needed a few extra days to recover and
>> absorb everything. I do believe that we should get the best bang for
>> our buck including amenities! I never indicated that we consider a
>> "dunpea"I won't willingly make arrangements to spend my money at a
>> "dump." I agree that if people recieve assistance they have a
>> responsibility to participate, however everyone is an adult and there
>> are times when expectations will not be met. However we cannot paint
>> everyone with the same brush, we have dissappointed others at some
>> point in our lives, when you learn better you do better.
>> If we want to survive this, we should pull together and not exclude
>> anyone from the process. Being a teamplayer is easy when everything
>> is going good, but when things become tight following may become
>> difficult. This is where short term and long range goals, budgeting
>> and planning play a crucial role for the success of the organization,
>> our National organization has not survived for these many years on
>> willy nilly econonomics and planning and we should not either. Trust
>> becomes the crucial item on the table, confidence in leaders that
>> exercise, transparency and inclusion is valuable and we should
>> reinforce these qualities during this time when so many members have
>> legitimate questions and concerns.
>> 
>> Thanks for indulging me once again, I look forward to everyone's comments!
>> 
>> Trying to stay warm in Cleveland!
>> 
>> Cheryl Fields
>> 
>> 
>> It is better to lead from behind and to put others in front,
>> especially when you celebrate victory when nice things occur. You take
>> the front line when there is danger. Then people will appreciate your
>> leadership.
>> Nelson Mandela
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/15/13, COLLEEN ROTH <n8tnv at att.net> wrote:
>>> Hi Cheryl,
>>> I do want as many people to attend the Convention as possible and I am aware
>>> that many people do not have the income to attend without assistance.
>>> My concern is the people who attend any event and do not actively
>>> participate.
>>> When someone's way is paid by anyone to attend anything the expectation is
>>> there that the person will be an active participant and not use this
>>> opportunity as a Vacation.
>>> I am not against people having fun but I want people to pull their and
>>> attend the Sessions which is the main reason they are given assistance.
>>> No organization will just give people money to have a Vacation at xs'
>>> expense.
>>> I certainly feel that those who are attending any organizational meetings
>>> should be active participants or people we are trying to mentor.
>>> Those attending should help with fund raisers and help with their expenses
>>> to whatever extent the" are able to do so.
>>> Unfortunately at this time worke need to think ways to stimulate some
>>> donations to the NFBO.
>>> For many years we were fortunate to have a good fundraiser which meant that
>>> some of us got spoiled because we didn't have to work as hard to get the
>>> funds we needed.
>>> We were also able to help many people attend the Convention and we were not
>>> as careful when allocating funds to people who did nothing or very little or
>>> could not even be bothered to attend Sessions or the Banquet.
>>> I hope people are more concerned about participating when they have
>>> contributed more and that they will do more.
>>> I do agree that people will learn and be more involved when they attend a
>>> State or National Convention.
>>> It puts things into perspective and energeizes all of us.
>>> We would really need some phenomenal fundraising events to get as many
>>> people to the State and National Conventions as we would like to be able to
>>> do.
>>> The one caveat I have about getting people there is that those who do not
>>> attend Sessions and other meetings should not expect assistance in the
>>> future.
>>> This is not meanspirited, this is just good economics.
>>> It shouldn't matter where you live in the State, we should be able to get
>>> everyone to the Convention who wants to attend and we should be able to get
>>> that done with good fundraising.
>>> Local Chapters do need to do some fundraising to help this process along.
>>> Hats off to those who worked so hard on the Malley's Chocolate fundraiser.
>>> I do not know anything about smile amazon com but it might be good for some
>>> people who like to order online.
>>> I think the two Chapters in Cleveland could put on a good fundraiser and
>>> help a lot of people attend the Convention.
>>> When I suggested Toledo I wasn't indicating that I wouldn't work on such an
>>> event.
>>> We do need to think about the time it takes to get from one part of the
>>> State to the other when Conventions are planned.
>>> I am sure that if we got the money we wouldn't have any problem spending it
>>> to get people to the Convention.
>>> Colleen Roth
>>> President
>>> At Large Chapter
>>> NFB of Ohio
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Cheryl Fields <cherylelaine1957 at gmail.com>
>>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Date: Saturday, December 14, 2013 9:29 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Buckeye Update
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi colleen,
>>>> 
>>>> I respect your sentiments about the convention. Just 1 little item,
>>>> the word spoiled!
>>>> for the last 2 years the Cleveland Chapter has been able to work
>>>> towards providing transportation and room accomadations for first time
>>>> convention goers, outside of the present financial framework of the
>>>> nfb, this is actually a long held tradition of the Cleveland chapter.
>>>> Most recently, The Cleveland sight Center has contributed greatly
>>>> towards this effort and so have our own chapter members, and I might
>>>> add at a great sacrifice. We did this so that people would have the
>>>> experience. I realize there are some that look for handouts at every
>>>> turn, but these are not the folks I am speaking of.  For the continued
>>>> growth of the organization we must consider financial stabilityeaand
>>>> some ways to provide introductions to newer members at the state level
>>>> of nfb, and this requires funding. Very few groups and organizations
>>>> do not provide some assistance to members for cobentions. There are
>>>> several reasons behind this, first economics, all members are not on
>>>> the same economic playing field and need the assistance, secondly,
>>>> incentive, some members will blossom and become more involved after
>>>> attending a larger assembly, last but not least, the greater the
>>>> attendance the greater the exposure of the nfb to the community the
>>>> event is held in creating opportunities for education and an open
>>>> invitation to others that never herd of nfb. It is my opinion that we
>>>> must start somewhere to make our convention appealing to everyone.
>>>> Toledo would be a great location for a convention and Cleveland is a
>>>> great location, too. The difference is that I am asking for future
>>>> consideration and volunteering to be part of the process. keeping with
>>>> inclusion and dibversity having people from other locations around the
>>>> state would add balance to the convention, where ever it is held. It
>>>> is entirely possible to be involved in planning from a remote
>>>> location, actually you can plan any event remotely quite nicely.
>>>> In the end, I am sure Eric, Richard, and the board will weigh all of
>>>> the factors and make intelligent decisions as we move forward.
>>>> 
>>>> Stay Warm!
>>>> 
>>>> Cheryl
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/13/13, COLLEEN ROTH <n8tnv at att.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>>> Please check the dates for the 2014 Convention.
>>>>> I think you might want to send something changing the dates.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Colleen Roth
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Eric Duffy <eduffy at deltav.org>
>>>>> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date: Friday, December 13, 2013 3:55 pm
>>>>> Subject: [Ohio-talk] Buckeye Update
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind of Ohio
>>>>>> Buckeye Update, December 13, 2013
>>>>>> It is Friday the 13th. For those of you who are superstitious this
>>>>>> is not a good day. For those who don't believe in such things it is
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> another day, unless the thirteenth has significance in your life for
>>>>>> another
>>>>>> reason. I thought of this because I just passed a car accident while
>>>>>> getting
>>>>>> on the highway to travel back home from Brookville.
>>>>>> The Board of Directors of the National Federation of the Blind of
>>>>>> Ohio met Tuesday evening. We had a good but short meeting.  I
>>>>>> appointed
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> committees that will do much of the work of the organization in 2014.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> committee appointments will be sent out with the minutes of the
>>>>>> meeting
>>>>>> next
>>>>>> week. Shelbi was very quick in finishing the minutes, and we are now
>>>>>> giving
>>>>>> the board the chance to look at them before sending them out.
>>>>>> I can tell you that it was decided that the 2014 and 2015
>>>>>> conventions will be in the Columbus area. Specifically we will be at
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Holiday Inn at 7007 North High Street in Worthington. The date for the
>>>>>> 2014
>>>>>> convention is October 31 through November 2. Room rates are $76 plus
>>>>>> tax.
>>>>>> I have been highly involved with planning conventions for this
>>>>>> organization for about 26 years. I first started traveling to look at
>>>>>> hotels
>>>>>> with Barbara Pierce and Pat Eschbach. Once I demonstrated my ability
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> select appropriate hotels for the organization and to successfully
>>>>>> negotiate
>>>>>> with the hotels, Barbara turned the responsibility for finding
>>>>>> suitable
>>>>>> convention sites over to me. Yes Mary Pool chaired the convention
>>>>>> committee
>>>>>> for many years, and she assisted me in this process. But the
>>>>>> responsibility
>>>>>> was mine, and I didn't take it lightly. If all went well with the
>>>>>> hotel,
>>>>>> people were happy, and Mary and I received a lot of praise. If things
>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> go well with the hotel, then our selection of hotels was questioned.
>>>>>> That
>>>>>> really never happened.
>>>>>> Yes, we had a time or two when we said let's not go back to that
>>>>>> hotel, but by and large the membership has been pleased with the
>>>>>> hotels
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> have had and the rates we have enjoyed.
>>>>>> It seems to me that in the early part of this decade the board
>>>>>> decided that we should hold the convention in Columbus for several
>>>>>> years
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> we did that. We have been in the Dayton area for the last three
>>>>>> conventions.
>>>>>> I have come to understand that many who attend convention on a
>>>>>> regular basis prefer Columbus, because it is centrally located. We
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> certainly discovered that we save money by holding our in person board
>>>>>> meetings in Columbus.
>>>>>> It seems to me that when everything else is equal among hotels,
>>>>>> people want a hotel that is easy to get to and good room rates.
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>> Payne once said to me that perhaps people would be willing to pay a
>>>>>> little
>>>>>> more for a hotel with some extra amenities. I believe that we must have
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> nice hotel that is affordable. Only those who can afford to do so will
>>>>>> attend the convention. Now that we no longer have money to offer
>>>>>> convention
>>>>>> assistance affordability is even more important than it was for many
>>>>>> years.
>>>>>> We are in the Columbus area for the next two years, but we should
>>>>>> think about future conventions and whether or not we want to move
>>>>>> around
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> state each year as we once did.  Is moving around the state important
>>>>>> enough
>>>>>> that we want to put time and resources in to finding convention
>>>>>> locations
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> we once did. This certainly food for thought.
>>>>>> We have the money to make three scholarships available in 2014.
>>>>>> Deborah Kendrick chairs the scholarship committee and will get
>>>>>> applications
>>>>>> out soon.
>>>>>> The folks at Malley's Chocolate have extended our ordering
>>>>>> opportunity through the end of the business day on Monday. We have
>>>>>> passed
>>>>>> our sales goal of $1,000, but the Cleveland chapter is putting together
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> nice order that won't be finalized until Monday. So if you want
>>>>>> Malley's
>>>>>> chocolate the clock is ticking, but you still have time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The winter edition of the Buckeye Bulletin is out. It is another
>>>>>> good issue. I want to thank Barbara for her work and also thank
>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> contributed to the issue. I read many affiliate newsletters, and I am
>>>>>> proud
>>>>>> to say that ours is second to none.
>>>>>> This is a reminder that our friends at Vanda Pharmaceuticals are
>>>>>> running a campaign to raise awareness of Non-24 Hour Disorder and
>>>>>> raise
>>>>>> funds for the National Federation of the Blind at the same time.
>>>>>> Non-24-Hour
>>>>>> Disorder (Non-24) is a serious circadian rhythm disorder that causes
>>>>>> significant nighttime sleep problems and a wide range of daytime
>>>>>> difficulties, including an overwhelming urge to sleep during the day.
>>>>>> According to Vanda, Non-24 affects nearly 70 percent of people who are
>>>>>> totally blind. Sign up to learn more about Non-24-Hour Disorder by
>>>>>> calling
>>>>>> 1-855-856-2424, and a portion of $24, divided among several other
>>>>>> blindness
>>>>>> organizations, will be donated to the NFB! And even better, every time
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> share the program with someone you know and he or she signs up, Vanda
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> make another $24 donation. Sign up and spread the word! I have done
>>>>>> this.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> is an easy way to get a few dollars in to the treasury of our national
>>>>>> organization.
>>>>>> Next week Richard and I will to be traveling to Cleveland to meet
>>>>>> with the Director of the Cleveland Sight Center and to attend the
>>>>>> chapter
>>>>>> Christmas party. I am looking forward to both things.
>>>>>> I will write again next week. Here is my last reminder about
>>>>>> Malley's.
>>>>>> The National Federation of the Blind of Ohio is conducting a
>>>>>> fundraising activity with Malley's Chocolates of Cleveland, Ohio.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A website has been setup specifically for the National Federation of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Blind of Ohio fundraising campaign. All purchases made on that site
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> directly benefit the National Federation of the Blind of Ohio. To
>>>>>> connect
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> this site, please visit
>>>>>> http://www.malleys.com/national-federation-of-the-blind-of-ohio
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you very much,
>>>>>> Eric Duffy, President National Federation of the Blind of Ohio
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.malleys.com/national-federation-of-the-blind-of-ohio
>>>>>> Our mailing address is:
>>>>>> 13400 Brookpark Road
>>>>>> Cleveland, Ohio 44135
>>>>>> Contact us by phone: 1-800-275-6255
>>>>>> Fax: 1-800-211-0567
>>>>>> All website content C Copyright 2013 Malley's Chocolate. All rights
>>>>>> reserved.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Peace
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>>>> Peace
>> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 08:53:40 -0500
> From: "Smith, JW" <smithj at ohio.edu>
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>    <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] fyi
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> 
> Well said Annette and thank you for taking the time and having the courage to chime in here.
> 
> We need you and I personally look forward to working with and getting to know you better in the near future.
> 
> Stay with us!
> 
> Jw
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Annette Lutz
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 8:15 AM
> To: 'NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] fyi
> 
> Good Morning everyone,
> 
> I have been a part of this list for some time, and haven't participated in much of the conversation because I am so new to the organization, and until fairly recently, haven't been too involved in the NFBO outside of my work with the Merchants Division.  I have stayed out of the "politics" that naturally come with all groups, because of my newness.  I have sat back and listened and learned because it is my sincere hope that someday, after learning as much as I can, that I can be a better contributor to this wonderful organization. I have learned a lot, and after learning so much about the NFB philosophy and the great work that is done, I feel stronger about my affiliation with this group, and hope that in my small way, that I can be of some help to the cause in the future.
> 
> However, after reading the current thread of email, I have been extremely concerned about some things.  Most notably, I see from the point of view of someone that really doesn't know most of the players personally and who doesn't know much of the history, that this type of personal attacks is very discouraging to read.  I have noted that outside of fundraising, one of the top goals of the affiliate is the increase of membership. From the point of view of an "outsider" this type of continued thread could have the opposite effect.  If I hadn't been sitting back and listening for some time now, and had just gotten on this list recently, maybe after just attending my first convention, this type of attacking could have put me off of the entire group.  I hope that this isn't the case for any new people who might be reading this list, because the group is so much more than is being portrayed here.
> 
> Since I have began my involvement with the affiliate outside of the Merchants Division, I have felt completely included in anything that I had interest in.  I enjoy reading the weekly updates from Eric, and the wonderful newsletter that Barbara puts together.  I have gotten the opportunity to meet many people through the conventions that I have attended and my involvement with last summer's BELL program, and I have recently become more involved in the Columbus Chapter, who have been very inclusive and welcomed me openly.  I am certain that any other Chapter would have done the same if I lived in those areas as well.  In fact, I have felt that some have gone out of their way to make me feel welcome to this group, and have told me that my ideas and opinions are welcome.  I believe that everyone else is given that same welcoming approach.  So what I am asking is that the personal attacks please stop on this list.  It is natural for their to be disagreements, and the fact that people feel so strongly about their opinion only emphasizes the passion that is felt about doing the work of the NFB, but when those passions reach the point of attack, it hurts the group, and could push away future leaders who might not have had the opportunity yet to learn what the NFB is all about.
> 
> Just my thoughts.
> 
> Everyone have a very Merry Christmas, and let's have a great 2014 making this affiliate an even stronger and better one than it already is.
> 
> Annette Lutz
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cheryl Fields
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:04 PM
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] fyi
> 
> Eric,
> 
> You are absolutely right, thank you for adding me to ohio talk. I also thank you and the board for allowing me time for the Domestic Violence talk and Break Out Session. I am looking forward to expanding this in the near future and would love to discuss this further with you.
> 
> My comments are not ment to hurt anyone, exclude others or cause a rift among the membership, but I thought we were having great dialogue about importan issues concerning nfb. I feel strongly about these issues and don't mind being vocal, like others. However, I think you and Richard should iron out your differences privately. As president, I hold you to a higher standard, as well as Richard and when both of you begin to bicker publicly it effects the whole group. Again, in my opinion, Barbara should have stayed out of it andI should not have responded to her comments, this is not our fight. Aleeah sent me a message that I responded to honestly. I thought I have always made it clear that If I do not have the correct information please straighten me out. The convention info was made very clear in Shelby's notes and I asked a question in an earlier email asking, can we give proposals to board members for future consideration of convention locations, no one asked answered me yet. I am not infallible, and it is a moot point, the main issue is how do we come together for the benefit of the organization? I offered a suggestion and have gotten no response from you or any board member. This is interesting to me, but I have a response to my remarks on the efforts of the Cleveland chapters involvement, and coments on who's right and who's wrong. Sometime ago I sent you a private email about setting some guidelines for Ohio Talk, no response from you, so I am suggesting it again. Maybe we can ask each chapter to make a list for the board to consider, Ohio Talk Ettiquet. Are any of us perfect? The ability to communicate is a beautiful skill and can sometimes be painful or unpleasant, but in the end accomplishing an understanding among everyone is what counts, even if we disagree. So, I am asking you to take some time to think about what is really going on,who are the people you may need to reach out and smooth some feathers, evaluate if any of this talk has merit, and how to come together. Finally, make your way to Cleveland for the party and we can talk face to face, because I prefer not to be placed in the position of appearing to be against leadership in any way. I happen to sit on another board and am quite awae of how important solidarity is, I also am a leader in other organizations and know that it is not a easy job. We can all learn from each other if we first learn how to listen, sometimes the most important message is in the silence.
> I will say Happy New Year to All now because I am taking a break from Ohio Talk for the holidays, Blessings,
> 
> Cheryl Fields
>> On 12/17/13, richard payne <rchpay7 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> We all have our opinions. Richard
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Aleeha Dudley
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:59 PM
>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] fyi
>> 
>> Hello Richard and All,
>> 
>>     As someone who was on the board meeting last Tuesday evening, I
>> feel I must weigh in on this conversation. I must respectfully
>> disagree with you, Richard, on the points you make. I truly and firmly
>> believe that the board of directors, chosen, I might add, by our state
>> Federation membership, I might add, has the best interests of the
>> affiliate at heart. As you know, the affiliate is in dire financial
>> straits right now and cannot afford to keep having the convention in a
>> location where it will take massive expenditures to get members of the
>> board there. If we keep having to spend this much money on the board
>> alone, how can we expect to get new people to the convention?
>>     I also must say that, having heard exactly what happened at the
>> board meeting, there was consideration given to your idea of exploring
>> different locations for the hotel since we had such issues with the
> Wyndham Garden.
>> We
>> were all advised, however, that the money just wasn't there to fund
>> such a committee, because, after all, this will still cost the state.
>>     As for the statement that the board cares not for our membership,
>> again, I must disagree. Eric openly invited members and discussion to
>> this meeting. He has always been transparent with the affairs of this
>> affiliate, and I would think that you would know that, working hand in
> hand with him.
>>     As for this "team player" bit, I must wholeheartedly agree with Eric.
>> A
>> team player is just that: he works to support the team and does not
>> flay the head of such team on an open forum such as this. A team
>> player brings these concerns directly to the head of the team, as well
>> as the rest of the board.
>> A team player fully and wholeheartedly supports the Federation.
>>     As for Cheryl's comments, Eric had his reasons, I am sure, for
>> not holding a BELL program in Cleveland, on top of the one planned in
> Columbus.
>> It was the first year of the program, so naturally we needed to start
>> small.
>> It was difficult to know how well the program was going to go, if it
>> would go at all, so naturally, our efforts needed to be centrally
>> located and focused on one common goal. There was also not enough
>> money for Ohio to support a second program. Chinelle got, as I did, an
>> email from Eric, expressing his sincere gratitude for her assistance
>> with
> the BELL program.
>> 
>> These are just my thoughts and I will continue to work my tail off for
>> this Federation because I consider them a better family than my own
>> right
> now.
>> Issues will arise in every family, but they should be properly
>> addressed, so as not to undermine the strong foundation of the family.
>> 
>> Just my humble opinion,
>> Aleeha Dudley
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/17/13, Eric Duffy <eduffy at deltav.org> wrote:
>>> Richard,
>>> 
>>> Although these are not the kinds of emails I would like to see on a
>>> public listserv, I am compelled to respond to this one since you have
>>> publically thrown down the gauntlet.
>>> 
>>> I agree with you that we need to include and involve our membership.
>>> I too believe that the board should be responsive to the membership
>>> as much as possible while performing the role it was elected to carry
>>> out. Those two things are not one in the same. You say, "I think that
>>> the call last week was in part designed to limit the input on some of
>>> the things we spoke about.  When the information was put out, it made
>>> it seem that only the board would need to be present and maybe this
>>> is why several members did not
>>> participate.    I think some members of our leadership make others feel
>>> left
>>> out and do not open   the doors until money or work is needed. "
>>> 
>>> In the Buckeye Update dated December 6, 2013 I said, "I have called a
>>> meeting of the board of directors of the National Federation of the
>>> Blind of Ohio for Tuesday evening at 8:00 PM. We had a December
>>> meeting last year at which time I appointed the committees that will
>>> do much of the work of the organization. I plan to appoint committees
>>> on Tuesday. We will also discuss the 2014 convention and our next
>>> scholarship program. We will also set the date for our January
>>> meeting. Other business might arise, but only if it absolutely must
>>> be discussed before our January meeting.
>>>     You do not have to be a member of the board to participate in these
>>> meetings. I encourage you to join us. Shortly before 8:00 PM.  On
>>> Tuesday call (605) 475-4875. When prompted, use access code 201909
>>> followed by the pound sign."
>>> 
>>> Kyle Conley, Paul Dressell, Aleeha Dudley, and Colleen Roth
>>> participated in the call but are not on the board. Aleeha and Kyle
>>> are two of our younger members, and I'm glad they were there.
>>> 
>>> You say, "I am a team player and serve for all Federationists." When
>>> I think of a team player, I think of one who's head and heart are in
>>> the game at all times. I think of one who supports the team even when
>>> there is disagreement among team members. This type of email going to
>>> a public list does not seem to me to be what a "team player" would
>>> send. A team player would not have led his chapter out of the banquet
>>> before the fundraising period, particularly after having received an
>>> award from that organization. We have had the Scrip program for two
>>> years now, and, though you have made noises about joining it, you
>>> have still not done so. Is that being a team player?
>>> 
>>> In the January 2013 board meeting you publically accused me of
>>> intimidating the board. To this day I know of no one who supported
>>> your position. That to my mind does not represent a team player.
>>> 
>>> At the Sunday morning session of this years convention you publically
>>> accused me of reading amendments  to the constitution that had not
>>> been brought to the board. You might say that you were just asking a
>>> question, but your question was really an accusation. As vice
>>> president I would never have asked Barbara or JW such a question on
>>> the convention floor. If I were concerned that something was being
>>> slid past the membership, I would have quietly come to the head table
>>> and raised the question with a recommendation that things be made
>>> absolutely clear.
>>> 
>>> Those who are intelligent do not need to tell the rest of the world
>>> how bright they are. It shows! Those who are wealthy don't need to
>>> tell the world how rich they are. Again, it shows!  Yet I often hear
>>> you refer to yourself as a "team player." The instances I have
>>> sighted above I fear speak louder than words. We are members of the
>>> administration, and we must find a way of getting along and working
>>> for the same goals. Blind Ohioans deserve no less. I suggest that we
>>> pursue this discussion off list in the hope that we can agree to work
>>> together. We have a lot of years of doing so. Surely we can find some
>>> trust and common ground.
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> 
>>> 
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> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 08:51:25 -0500
> From: COLLEEN ROTH <n8tnv at att.net>
> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] fyi
> Message-ID: <20131218135125.n8tnv at att.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> Hello Cheryl,
> Chinelle was recognized in the Buckeye Bulletin and the Convention for her Participation in BELL.
> Colleen Roth
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cheryl Fields <cherylelaine1957 at gmail.com>
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:25 pm
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] fyi
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I forgot something, Chenelle Handcock of the Cleveland chapter
>> volunteered with the BELL Program this past summer and received no
>> recognition for her efforts. In spite of this she is looking forward
>> to serving again in 2014, this is what family does. I could go on with
>> examples, but
>> I will end with theabbc there are not many reasons to expect a
>> pleasant outcome to continuing this type of conversation.
>> 
>> Cheryl
>>> On 12/17/13, Cheryl Fields <cherylelaine1957 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Barb,
>>> The Vehicle Donation Project is a fort that we all participate in,
>>> Cleveland most certainly promotes it and I am sure others do too.
>>> Let's Celebrate the efforts of everyone, just like the Malley's fund
>>> raiser and believe there are more donations on the way!
>>> 
>>> This is not an easy group to volunteer with, most recently the
>>> Cleveland Chapter volunteered to sponsor a BBell program and were
>>> denided, even though we have the ability to finance the program and
>>> staff it, as well as provide a space.  I have offered to serve in
>>> several capacities  with no response. I was appointed to a committee
>>> several years ago and never heard from the committee chair person,
>>> even after contacting her several times. However, this does not
>>> prevent me from continuing to try, just don't know what or who may
>>> change my mind, there is always a straw that breaks the camels back.
>>> 
>>> We are a family, ups and downs, and at times we speak before we think.
>>> Faith in the ability of others and Forgiveness and patience are what
>>> we need more of!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Blessings,
>>> 
>>> Cheryl fields
>>> 
>>> How we think shows through in how we act. Attitudes are mirrors of the
>>> mind. They reflect thinking.
>>> David Joseph Schwartz
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 12/17/13, Barbara Pierce <bbpierce at pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> I will respond to Richard's email since I presume that his final comment
>>>> about those who have had power not being willing to step aside refers to
>>>> me.
>>>> Eric's Buckeye Update of the Friday before the board meeting extended an
>>>> invitation to everyone to join the call and gave the number and code
>>>> again.
>>>> In fact, Colleen Roth, Kyle Conley, and Aleeha Dudley were nonmembers of
>>>> the
>>>> board who called in and participated.
>>>> 
>>>> It is a difficult problem to discern   when one is holding onto power and
>>>> when one is putting years of experience at the disposal of the president,
>>>> but I for one trust Eric to determine when my usefulness has passed.
>>>> Leadership in this organization is not a matter of elected office. It is
>>>> volunteering to do jobs and then actually doing them. I certainly hope
>>>> that
>>>> people will call into meetings and express their views and volunteer to
>>>> do
>>>> things and then do them.
>>>> 
>>>> I see this morning that Ohio has gotten two vehicle donations. That is
>>>> great
>>>> news, and, since Richard chairs that effort, I presume that he gets the
>>>> credit for getting the word out. I guess the fundamental hope is that we
>>>> can
>>>> all work together.
>>>> 
>>>> Barbara
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Payne,
>>>> Richard L (GE Capital)
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:04 AM
>>>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List (ohio-talk at nfbnet.org)
>>>> Subject: [Ohio-talk] fyi
>>>> 
>>>> I will not get in too much detail here, but sometimes it must be noted
>>>> that
>>>> we   need a process which includes and welcomes the membership to be
>>>> involved.  I am not the kind of writer that will try and use big words or
>>>> swift lines to make my point here.  Yes, it was brought up about having
>>>> the
>>>> convention in another part of the state for a number of reasons.  We
>>>> should
>>>> not have a board that is not listening to the membership.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I know those of us who were on the conference call will stick to our
>>>> votes
>>>> and yes, the board did indeed vote.  I, the Vice President voted no for
>>>> several reasons.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> First, I think that the board must find a way to reach out to the
>>>> membership
>>>> in a way that we have not for a very long time.  I chose to accept the
>>>> position of vice president because I believe in the NFB.  While this is
>>>> true
>>>> the only way to fill this position is to stay involved.  Also, the chance
>>>> that we would have had the convention in Columbus may have been the
>>>> decision
>>>> that was made any way.  I requested information to help find other
>>>> locations
>>>> for the convention, due to the problems we had in November.  I am a team
>>>> player and serve for all Federationists.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Secondly, I think that the call last week was in part designed to limit
>>>> the
>>>> input on some of the things we spoke about.  When the information was put
>>>> out, it made it seem that only the board would need to be present and
>>>> maybe
>>>> this is why several members did not participate. I think some members
>>>> of
>>>> our leadership make others feel left out and do not open   the doors
>>>> until
>>>> money or work is needed.  To be fair here, everyone cannot be a leader
>>>> and
>>>> all cannot lead.   I hope from this point we embrace others that
>>>> certainly
>>>> have the ability to lift this affiliate to another level.  I guess when I
>>>> think of a movement I think about the boots on the ground paving the way
>>>> for
>>>> inclusion.  Yes, several members have paved the way and others will go
>>>> down
>>>> that road.  When I think back over the last year or so, it is that some
>>>> who
>>>> have had a strong hold on this affiliate won't allow for a change.  I
>>>> will
>>>> never stop working for the NFB!  But, it is getting much harder when so
>>>> many
>>>> people a
>>>> re being pushed aside. Richard
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>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> Peace
>>> t
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> Peace
>> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 08:59:04 -0500
> From: Eric Duffy <eduffy at deltav.org>
> To: <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] Cleveland Thursday evening
> Message-ID: <002d01cefbf9$50b15330$f213f990$@pobox.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Shelbi and I will be coming in to Cleveland Thursday evening and staying  at
> the Double Tree. 
> 
> If all goes well with Greyhound We  will be available to sit down and talk
> with anyone who would like to stop by tomorrow evening.
> 
> This is just an open invitation. Please let me know if you would like to
> stop  in by email, text, or phone call. My number is (614) 377-9877.
> 
> We also plan to have some time in the pool and or the hot tub. Feel free to
> join us.
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:16:23 -0500
> From: COLLEEN ROTH <n8tnv at att.net>
> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] fyi
> Message-ID: <20131218151623.n8tnv at att.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> Hello Annette,
> I share your opinions concerning public attacks. What ever happened to talking to people privately about concerns when they are personal attacks and or they appear to be personal attacks.
> I do have one suggestion for everyone.
> Please read entire emails so you truly know what is stated.
> Before you say that something isn't mentioned in a post please reread it.
> This could have eliminated some problems for everyone. I know sometimes we get inundated with email and so we do not always read the entire message.
> I have been guilty of the in the past but have learned the hard way that I need to read the entire email.
> If you feel that something you have to say about a new idea should be posed just give the idea.
> If you haven't gotten a response to an idea just post it again without all the oand! stuff.
> If you have a suggestion for something maybe you could present it for consideration. If you don't get a response immediately it may be because something else takes precedence at the time.
> Sometimes suggestions aren't acted upon immediately because they are not possible for some reason.
> I am sure that those who receive suggestions make note of them and will act upon them when or if it is appropriate.
> Colleen Roth
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Annette Lutz <annettelutz at att.net>
> To: "'Ationfb of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'" <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 8:16 am
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] fyi
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Good Morning everyone,
>> 
>> I have been a part of this list for some time, and haven't participated in
>> much of the conversation because I am so new to the organization, and until
>> fairly recently, haven't been too involved in the NFBO outside of my work
>> with the Merchants Division.  I have stayed out of the "politics" that
>> naturally come with all groups, because of my newness.  I have sat back and
>> listened and learned because it is my sincere hope that someday, after
>> learning as much as I can, that I can be a better contributor to this
>> wonderful organization. I have learned a lot, and after learning so much
>> about the NFB philosophy and the great work that is done, I feel stronger
>> about my affiliation with this group, and hope that in my small way, that I
>> can be of some help to the cause in the future.
>> 
>> However, after reading the current thread of email, I have been extremely
>> concerned about some things.  Most notably, I see from the point of view of
>> someone that really doesn't know most of the players personally and who
>> doesn't know much of the history, that this type of personal attacks is very
>> discouraging to read.  I have noted that outside of fundraising, one of the
>> top goals of the affiliate is the increase of membership.  From the point of
>> view of an "outsider" this type of continued thread could have the opposite
>> effect.  If I hadn't been sitting back and listening for some time now, and
>> had just gotten on this list recently, maybe after just attending my first
>> convention, this type of attacking could have put me off of the entire
>> group.  I hope that this isn't the case for any new people who might be
>> reading this list, because the group is so much more than is being portrayed
>> here.
>> 
>> Since I have began my involvement with the affiliate outside of the
>> Merchants Division, I have felt completely included in anything that I had
>> interest in.  I enjoy reading the weekly updates from Eric, and the
>> wonderful newsletter that Barbara puts together.  I have gotten the
>> opportunity to meet many people through the conventions that I have attended
>> and my involvement with last summer's BELL program, and I have recently
>> become more involved in the Columbus Chapter, who have been very inclusive
>> and welcomed me openly.  I am certain that any other Chapter would have done
>> the same if I lived in those areas as well.  In fact, I have felt that some
>> have gone out of their way to make me feel welcome to this group, and have
>> told me that my ideas and opinions are welcome.  I believe that everyone
>> else is given that same welcoming approach.  So what I am asking is that the
>> personal attacks please stop on this list.  It is natural for their to be
>> disagreements, and the fact that people feel so strongly about their opinion
>> only emphasizes the passion that is felt about doing the work of the NFB,
>> but when those passions reach the point of attack, it hurts the group, and
>> could push away future leaders who might not have had the opportunity yet to
>> learn what the NFB is all about.
>> 
>> Just my thoughts.
>> 
>> Everyone have a very Merry Christmas, and let's have a great 2014 making
>> this affiliate an even stronger and better one than it already is.
>> 
>> Annette Lutz 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cheryl
>> Fields
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:04 PM
>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] fyi
>> 
>> Eric,
>> 
>> You are absolutely right, thank you for adding me to ohio talk. I also thank
>> you and the board for allowing me time for the Domestic Violence talk and
>> Break Out Session. I am looking forward to expanding this in the near future
>> and would love to discuss this further with you.
>> 
>> My comments are not ment to hurt anyone, exclude others or cause a rift
>> among the membership, but I thought we were having great dialogue about
>> importan issues concerning nfb. I feel strongly about these issues and don't
>> mind being vocal, like others. However, I think you and Richard should iron
>> out your differences privately. As president, I hold you to a higher
>> standard, as well as Richard and when both of you begin to bicker publicly
>> it effects the whole group. Again, in my opinion, Barbara should have stayed
>> out of it andI should not have responded to her comments, this is not our
>> fight. Aleeah sent me a message that I responded to honestly. I thought I
>> have always made it clear that If I do not have the correct information
>> please straighten me out. The convention info was made very clear in
>> Shelby's notes and I asked a question in an earlier email asking, can we
>> give proposals to board members for future consideration of convention
>> locations, no one asked answered me yet. I am not infallible, and it is a
>> moot point, the main issue is how do we come together for the benefit of the
>> organization? I offered a suggestion and have gotten no response from you or
>> any board member. This is interesting to me, but I have a response to my
>> remarks on the efforts of the Cleveland chapters involvement, and coments on
>> who's right and who's wrong. Sometime ago I sent you a private email about
>> setting some guidelines for Ohio Talk, no response from you, so I am
>> suggesting it again. Maybe we can ask each chapter to make a list for the
>> board to consider, Ohio Talk Ettiquet. Are any of us perfect? The ability to
>> communicate is a beautiful skill and can sometimes be painful or unpleasant,
>> but in the end accomplishing an understanding among everyone is what counts,
>> even if we disagree. So, I am asking you to take some time to think about
>> what is really going oneawho are the people you may need to reach out and
>> smooth some feathers, evaluate if any of this talk has merit, and how to
>> come together. Finally, make your way to Cleveland for the party and we can
>> talk face to face, because I prefer not to be placed in the position of
>> appearing to be against leadership in any way. I happen to sit on another
>> board and am quite awae of how important solidarity is, I also am a leader
>> in other organizations and know that it is not a easy job. We can all learn
>> from each other if we first learn how to listen, sometimes the most
>> important message is in the silence.
>> I will say Happy New Year to All now because I am taking a break from Ohio
>> Talk for the holidays, Blessings,
>> 
>> Cheryl Fields
>>> On 12/17/13, richard payne <rchpay7 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> We all have our opinions. Richard
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Aleeha Dudley
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:59 PM
>>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] fyi
>>> 
>>> Hello Richard and All,
>>> 
>>>     As someone who was on the board meeting last Tuesday evening, I 
>>> feel I must weigh in on this conversation. I must respectfully 
>>> disagree with you, Richard, on the points you make. I truly and firmly 
>>> believe that the board of directors, chosen, I might add, by our state 
>>> Federation membership, I might add, has the best interests of the 
>>> affiliate at heart. As you know, the affiliate is in dire financial 
>>> straits right now and cannot afford to keep having the convention in a 
>>> location where it will take massive expenditures to get members of the 
>>> board there. If we keep having to spend this much money on the board 
>>> alone, how can we expect to get new people to the convention?
>>>     I also must say that, having heard exactly what happened at the 
>>> board meeting, there was consideration given to your idea of exploring 
>>> different locations for the hotel since we had such issues with the
>> Wyndham Garden.
>>> We
>>> were all advised, however, that the money just wasn't there to fund 
>>> such a committee, because, after all, this will still cost the state.
>>>     As for the statement that the board cares not for our membership, 
>>> again, I must disagree. Eric openly invited members and discussion to 
>>> this meeting. He has always been transparent with the affairs of this 
>>> affiliate, and I would think that you would know that, working hand in
>> hand with him.
>>>     As for this "team player" bit, I must wholeheartedly agree with Eric.
>>> A
>>> team player is just that: he works to support the team and does not 
>>> flay the head of such team on an open forum such as this. A team 
>>> player brings these concerns directly to the head of the team, as well 
>>> as the rest of the board.
>>> A team player fully and wholeheartedly supports the Federation.
>>>     As for Cheryl's comments, Eric had his reasons, I am sure, for 
>>> not holding a BELL program in Cleveland, on top of the one planned in
>> Columbus.
>>> It was the first year of the program, so naturally we needed to start 
>>> small.
>>> It was difficult to know how well the program was going to go, if it 
>>> would go at all, so naturally, our efforts needed to be centrally 
>>> located and focused on one common goal. There was also not enough 
>>> money for Ohio to support a second program. Chinelle got, as I did, an 
>>> email from Eric, expressing his sincere gratitude for her assistance with
>> the BELL program.
>>> 
>>> These are just my thoughts and I will continue to work my tail off for 
>>> this Federation because I consider them a better family than my own right
>> now.
>>> Issues will arise in every family, but they should be properly 
>>> addressed, so as not to undermine the strong foundation of the family.
>>> 
>>> Just my humble opinion,
>>> Aleeha Dudley
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 12/17/13, Eric Duffy <eduffy at deltav.org> wrote:
>>>> Richard,
>>>> 
>>>> Although these are not the kinds of emails I would like to see on a 
>>>> public listserv, I am compelled to respond to this one since you have 
>>>> publically thrown down the gauntlet.
>>>> 
>>>> I agree with you that we need to include and involve our membership. 
>>>> I too believe that the board should be responsive to the membership 
>>>> as much as possible while performing the role it was elected to carry 
>>>> out. Those two things are not one in the same. You say, "I think that 
>>>> the call last week was in part designed to limit the input on some of 
>>>> the things we spoke about.  When the information was put out, it made 
>>>> it seem that only the board would need to be present and maybe this 
>>>> is why several members did not
>>>> participate. I think some members of our leadership make others feel
>>>> left
>>>> out and do not open   the doors until money or work is needed. his
>>>> 
>>>> In the Buckeye Update dated December 6, 2013 I said, "I have called a 
>>>> meeting of the board of directors of the National Federation of the 
>>>> Blind of Ohio for Tuesday evening at 8:00 PM. We had a December 
>>>> meeting last year at which time I appointed the committees that will 
>>>> do much of the work of the organization. I plan to appoint committees 
>>>> on Tuesday. We will also discuss the 2014 convention and our next 
>>>> scholarship program. We will also set the date for our January 
>>>> meeting. Other business might arise, but only if it absolutely must 
>>>> be discussed before our January meeting.
>>>> You do not have to be a member of the board to participate in these 
>>>> meetings. I encourage you to join us. Shortly before 8:00 PM.  On 
>>>> Tuesday call (605) 475-4875. When prompted, use access code 201909 
>>>> followed by the pound sign."
>>>> 
>>>> Kyle Conley, Paul Dressell, Aleeha Dudley, and Colleen Roth 
>>>> participated in the call but are not on the board. Aleeha and Kyle 
>>>> are two of our younger members, and I'm glad they were there.
>>>> 
>>>> You say, "I am a team player and serve for all Federationists." When 
>>>> I think of a team player, I think of one who's head and heart are in 
>>>> the game at all times. I think of one who supports the team even when 
>>>> there is disagreement among team members. This type of email going to 
>>>> a public list does not seem to me to be what a "team player" would 
>>>> send. A team player would not have led his chapter out of the banquet 
>>>> before the fundraising period, particularly after having received an 
>>>> award from that organization. We have had the Scrip program for two 
>>>> years now, and, though you have made noises about joining it, you 
>>>> have still not done so. Is that being a team player?
>>>> 
>>>> In the January 2013 board meeting you publically accused me of 
>>>> intimidating the board. To this day I know of no one who supported 
>>>> your position. That to my mind does not represent a team player.
>>>> 
>>>> At the Sunday morning session of this years convention you publically 
>>>> accused me of reading amendments  to the constitution that had not 
>>>> been brought to the board. You might say that you were just asking a 
>>>> question, but your question was really an accusation. As vice 
>>>> president I would never have asked Barbara or JW such a question on 
>>>> the convention floor. If I were concerned that something was being 
>>>> slid past the membership, I would have quietly come to the head table 
>>>> and raised the question with a recommendation that things be made 
>>>> absolutely clear.
>>>> 
>>>> Those who are intelligent do not need to tell the rest of the world 
>>>> how bright they are. It shows! Those who are wealthy don't need to 
>>>> tell the world how rich they are. Again, it shows!  Yet I often hear 
>>>> you refer to yourself as a "team player." The instances I have 
>>>> sighted above I fear speak louder than words. We are members of the 
>>>> administration, and we must find a way of getting along and working 
>>>> for the same goals. Blind Ohioans deserve no less. I suggest that we 
>>>> pursue this discussion off list in the hope that we can agree to work 
>>>> together. We have a lot of years of doing so. Surely we can find some 
>>>> trust and common ground.
>>>> 
>>>> Eric
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> Peace
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 08:56:45 -0700
> From: "Everett Gavel" <everett at everettgavel.com>
> To: <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] Past & Current Presidents, & My NFB Family
> Message-ID: <2D26D9EE0BDC483E8167B4C31CBC3C2C at Lisa>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>    reply-type=original
> 
> Dawn wrote:
> "I think  we all in [the] N F B of Ohio  should be 
> thankful  and happy that we have good leaders 
> past and present  willing to take on this job [of] 
> president  thank you Eric Barbara  and J W  the 
> only three I have gotten to know  all three of you 
> are beautiful people thank you."
> 
> I agree cmpletely. Being a part of the NFB of Ohio 
> from 1998 - 2012, I have only known those 3 as 
> well. I appreciate all 3, and many other members 
> of my wonderful NFB of Ohio family, too. It's been 
> a blessing.
> 
> 
> Strive On!
> Everett
> Now In Colorado Springs, CO
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 13:53:52 -0500
> From: "Smith, JW" <smithj at ohio.edu>
> To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>    (ohio-talk at nfbnet.org)"    <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] Look and Listen Please?
> Message-ID:
>    <A62CEF8435EE6143A82C8DAFEB0CF74633A50A863C at EXMAIL1.ohio.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Family, family, family, I have been wondering if and how to respond to some of the messages from yesterday and I feel compelled to say this simply and as heartfelt as I can.
> 
> We are all in this together and I don't want people to now leave or consider leaving the list or even the affiliate because we need you believe me!
> 
> Yes families fight sometime but there is a way to do it and a time and place for it.
> 
> So let's all just learn from this and use it to make it and even better space and place for us to effectively communicate with one another please?
> 
> We all want the same things and the bottom line is that we all want this to be the most effective and lifechanging affiliate possible so that we can help all those other blind and visually impaired people that are looking for us even if they don't know it yet.
> 
> So I recommend that we take a deep breath, look around us and see just how Blessed we are this Holiday season and do what we can to learn from our recent discussions and hit the year ready to do what we can to make life better for all blind and visually impaired people in Ohio and beyond.
> 
> Can I get a witbness?
> 
> Jw
> 
> Dr. JW Smith
> Associate Professor
> Interim Director of Honors Tutorial Studies
> School of Communication Studies
> Lasher Hall, Rm. 112
> Athens, OH 45701
> smithj at ohio.edu<mailto:smithj at ohio.edu>
> T: 740-593-4838
> F: 740-593-4810
> 
> *Ask me about the newly revised Ohio Fellows Program or visit http://www.ohio.edu/univcollege/ohiofellows.cfm
> 
> "Regarding the past, change what you can, and can what you can't."
> "Our minds are like parachutes. They work best when they are open."
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 14:26:40 -0500
> From: Macy McClain <macymcclain at yahoo.com>
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>    <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Look and Listen Please?
> Message-ID: <1FEC13FC-D613-45FB-BD1A-E0B07A93427D at yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> Here here!
> Macy McClain
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2013, at 1:53 PM, "Smith, JW" <smithj at ohio.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Family, family, family, I have been wondering if and how to respond to some of the messages from yesterday and I feel compelled to say this simply and as heartfelt as I can.
>> 
>> We are all in this together and I don't want people to now leave or consider leaving the list or even the affiliate because we need you believe me!
>> 
>> Yes families fight sometime but there is a way to do it and a time and place for it.
>> 
>> So let's all just learn from this and use it to make it and even better space and place for us to effectively communicate with one another please?
>> 
>> We all want the same things and the bottom line is that we all want this to be the most effective and lifechanging affiliate possible so that we can help all those other blind and visually impaired people that are looking for us even if they don't know it yet.
>> 
>> So I recommend that we take a deep breath, look around us and see just how Blessed we are this Holiday season and do what we can to learn from our recent discussions and hit the year ready to do what we can to make life better for all blind and visually impaired people in Ohio and beyond.
>> 
>> Can I get a witbness?
>> 
>> Jw
>> 
>> Dr. JW Smith
>> Associate Professor
>> Interim Director of Honors Tutorial Studies
>> School of Communication Studies
>> Lasher Hall, Rm. 112
>> Athens, OH 45701
>> smithj at ohio.edu<mailto:smithj at ohio.edu>
>> T: 740-593-4838
>> F: 740-593-4810
>> 
>> *Ask me about the newly revised Ohio Fellows Program or visit http://www.ohio.edu/univcollege/ohiofellows.cfm
>> 
>> "Regarding the past, change what you can, and can what you can't."
>> "Our minds are like parachutes. They work best when they are open."
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:04:02 +0000
> From: Suzanne Turner <sturner at ClevelandSightCenter.org>
> To: "ohio-talk at nfbnet.org" <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>,
>    "Alexis.N.Tyson at IRS.GOV"    <Alexis.N.Tyson at IRS.GOV>,
>    "CRDavisjm at gmail.com" <CRDavisjm at gmail.com>,
>    "musicwonder71 at gmail.com" <musicwonder71 at gmail.com>, "Sherlene Potts
>    <jvt.sccb11 at gmail.com> (jvt.sccb11 at gmail.com)" <jvt.sccb11 at gmail.com>,
>    "Perry884076 at bellsouth.net" <Perry884076 at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] Focus Group
> Message-ID:
>    <317B3C3B1570D147A6F0BD39718221D81EEA7BAA at cscmail.sight.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp"
> 
> Good Afternoon,
> 
> I have been selected to participate in a Focus Group regarding Dove Beauty.  Dove has a Campaign that is on YouTube that speaks to all women with the exception of those who are blind.
> 
> A Senior from the College of Wooster is conducting a study on women who are visually impaired and their impression on beauty.  I thought this was an interesting idea and wanted to share it.  Although, most of you cannot participate in this study, it has me wondering if those of us who cannot see have the same perceptions of what is beautiful.
> 
> For your reading, below is the purpose and info.  Let me know what you think.  I would love to have this enthusiastic and concern individual address us in the near future.
> 
> Suzanne
> 
> 
> 
> Attention Female Clients and Employees of The Sight Center between the ages of 25-55:
> 
> My name is Edith Anderson and I am a senior at The College of Wooster. I have been an employee of The Sight Centers? Highbrook Lodge for 2 years, and I am conducting a research study looking at the impact of Dove?s beauty campaign and notions of beauty on women who are blind. The purpose of this study is to draw attention to a group of women who are left out of scholarly literature on beauty. Information concerning the study is as follows:
> 
> What: A research study examining notions of beauty for women who are blind.
> Who: Women between the ages of 25 and 55 who are legally blind.
> 
> The questions that are below will be proposed to the women for an answer after they review the YouTube Dove Campaign.
> 
> 
> 
> Focus Group Interview Questions
> 
> No demographics necessary
> 
> 
> 
> ?        How often do you have access to books, television or radio programs that contain beauty ads?
> 
>            -If you have access, how do these ads make you feel about yourself?
> 
> ?        What are your initial reactions to this ad?
> 
> ?        How do you define the word, ?beautiful??
> 
> ?         What is something that you find beautiful?
> 
> -Please explain why you find this thing beautiful
> 
> ?          How do you think the women is this ad define the word ?beautiful??
> 
> ?          The women in this ad make a connection between the way they look and the amount of happiness they experience in their lives. Have you ever found that the way you look impacts your happiness?
> 
> ?        This beauty campaign is one to be considered progressive. Now knowing that this is a progressive ad, how does this impact you and your understanding of beauty?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> You can find the YouTube by Googling Dove Beauty Sketches.
> 
> 
> Individual Interview Questions
> Name
> Age
> Occupation
> How would you describe yourself racially/ethnically?
> When did you become aware of your blindness?
> ?       Do you wear makeup? Why or why not?
> ?       If you do wear makeup, could you explain your ?beauty routine??
> ?       What is something you find beautiful about yourself?
> ?       -What practices, objects, ideas, etc. make you feel beautiful? Why?
> ?       If you could pick three words to describe the way you look, what would they be?
> ?        Being an unsighted woman and having just listened to an ad that contains only sighted women, would you be able to describe a time in which you felt similar to these women in the ad? Such as self conscious or unhappy about the way you look?
> ?        The women in this ad make a connection between the way they look and the amount of happiness they experience in their lives. Have you ever found that the way you look impacts your happiness? What influence does appearance have on your life?
> ?       How do you think a sighted women?s relationship with beauty differs from an unsighted women?s relationship with beauty?
> ?       How are they similar?
> ?        The women in this ad talk about their desire to have their friends and family view them as attractive and confirm how they look. Being a woman without sight, how do the opinions of others influence your feelings of your appearance?
> ?       How much do you rely on other?s in preparing you and your appearance?
> ?       Does this mean you put trust into these individuals?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Suzanne Turner, BSW, MPA
> Employment Coordinator and Benefit Specialist
> 
> Cleveland Sight Center
> 216-791-8118 (main)
> 216-658-7350 (direct)
> 216-791-1101 (fax)
> sturner at ClevelandSightCenter.org <mailto:sturner at ClevelandSightCenter.org>
> 
> 1909 East 101st Street
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> 
> Our Empowerment Park construction is complete! The ribbon was cut on October 17th and we have been awarded the UCI "Building the Circle" award. Come view the video here<http://youtu.be/OrJZzUfA_tc>.
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 15:35:18 -0500
> From: COLLEEN ROTH <n8tnv at att.net>
> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Look and Listen Please?
> Message-ID: <20131218203518.n8tnv at att.net>
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> 
> Hi JW,
> What was your last question before your signature?
> Was it a typo like some on my last post? I have been so distraught that I made several on my last post.
> Thank you for your comments.
> Please look at what we have done in our affiliate and what we need to do yet.
> We all need to give and take and Thank God for all of our Blessings.
> We were one of the seven States which had representation in Wilkes Barre Pennsylvania when the NFB was born November 16, 1940.
> Let's see if we can work together for the good of the Blind in our State and in our country.
> By extension we can help those in our International Community as well.
> Let there be Peace on earth and let it begin with me.
> Colleen Roth
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Smith, JW <smithj at ohio.edu>
> To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List (ohio-talk at nfbnet.org)" ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 1:55 pm
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] Look and Listen Please?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Family, family, family, I have been wondering if and how to respond to some of the messages from yesterday and I feel compelled to say this simply and as heartfelt as I can.
>> 
>> We are all in this together and I don't want people to now leave or consider leaving the list or even the affiliate because we need you believe me!
>> 
>> Yes families fight sometime but there is a way to do it and a time and place for it.
>> 
>> So let's all just learn from this and use it to make it and even better space and place for us to effectively communicate with one another please?
>> 
>> We all want the same things and the bottom line is that we all want this to be the most effective and lifechanging affiliate possible so that we can help all those other blind and visually impaired people that are looking for us even if they don't know it yet.
>> 
>> So I recommend that we take a deep breath, look around us and see just how Blessed we are this Holiday season and do what we can to learn from our recent discussions and hit the year ready to do what we can to make life better for all blind and visually impaired people in Ohio and beyond.
>> 
>> Can I get a witbness?
>> 
>> Jw
>> 
>> Dr. JW Smith
>> Associate Professor
>> Interim Director of Honors Tutorial Studies
>> School of Communication Studies
>> Lasher Hall, Rm. 112
>> Athens, OH 45701
>> smithj at ohio.edu<mailto:smithj at ohio.edu>
>> T: 740-593-4838
>> F: 740-593-4810
>> 
>> ininAsk me about the newly revised Ohio Fellows Program or visit http://www.ohio.edu/univcollege/ohiofellows.cfm
>> 
>> "Regarding the past, change what you can, and can what you can't."
>> "Our minds are like parachutes. They work best when they are open."
>> 
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 16:16:32 -0500
> From: COLLEEN ROTH <n8tnv at att.net>
> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Focus Group
> Message-ID: <20131218211632.n8tnv at att.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> Hello Suzanne,
> This is certainly interesting. I know that many  women find pleasure in dressing to the nines and being fashionable. I guess some people define beauty as a put-together look with perfect hair, makeup and clothes.
> Some people only view beauty as the way we look on the outside. Commercials make us feel that this is essential.
> To me beauty is what is on the inside. This doesn't have to do with my blindness but rather with the way I was raised. My grandmother didn't put stock in makeup and an up-to-date hairdo. My mother was just the opposite.
> I think the way we view ourselves has more to do with the way we were brought up and the things which are important to those around us.
> I have always found happiness in getting a new pair of shoes and finding clothes which are modest and practical.
> When I dress modestly and know that what I wear is neat and clean I am happy. This makes me feel that I am dressed appropriately. I personally do not like makeup and just want to keep my hair short. This is just my personal style or lack thereof.
> I really do not think that blind women are affected by advertisements because we have as much opportunity to know what is in style as everyone else if we are interested in finding information.
> I could be wrong but this is just my perception.
> This may be because I am not interested in dyeing my hair, wearing makeup and any cosmetic surgery.
> I am glad you are in this study, Suzanne.
> Colleen Roth
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Suzanne Turner <sturner at ClevelandSightCenter.org>
> To: "ohio-talk at nfbnet.org" ohio-talk at nfbnet.org,"Alexis.N.Tyson at IRS.GOV" Alexis.N.Tyson at IRS.GOV,"CRDavisjm at gmail.com" CRDavisjm at gmail.com,"musicwonder71 at gmail.com" musicwonder71 at gmail.com,"Sherlene Potts jvt.sccb11 at gmail.com,(jvt.sccb11 at gmail.com)" jvt.sccb11 at gmail.com,"Perry884076 at bellsouth.net" Perry884076 at bellsouth.net
> Date: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 3:04 pm
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] Focus Group
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Good Afternoon,
>> 
>> I have been selected to participate in a Focus Group regarding Dove Beauty.  Dove has a Campaign that is on YouTube that speaks to all women with the exception of those who are blind.
>> 
>> A Senior from the College of Wooster is conducting a study on women who are visually impaired and their impression on beauty.  I thought this was an interesting idea and wanted to share it.  Although, most of you cannot participate in this study, it has me wondering if those of us who cannot see have the same perceptions of what is beautiful.
>> 
>> For your reading, below is the purpose and info.  Let me know what you think.  I would love to have this enthusiastic and concern individual address us in the near future.
>> 
>> Suzanne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Attention Female Clients and Employees of The Sight Center between the ages of 25-55:
>> 
>> My name is Edith Anderson and I am a senior at The College of Wooster. I have been an employee of The Sight Centers$;,b6;,g(;,b Highbrook Lodge for 2 years, and I am conducting a research study looking at the impact of Dove$;,b6;,g(,bs beauty campaign and notions of beauty on women who are blind. The purpose of this study is to draw attention to a group of women who are left out of scholarly literature on beauty. Information concerning the study is as follows:
>> 
>> What: A research study examining notions of beauty for women who are blind.
>> Who: Women between the ages of 25 and 55 who are legally blind.
>> 
>> The questions that are below will be proposed to the women for an answer after they review the YouTube Dove Campaign.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Focus Group Interview Questions
>> 
>> No demographics necessary
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> $;,b6 at _\(;,b        How often do you have access to books, television or radio programs that contain beauty ads?
>> 
>>            comIf you have access, how do these ads make you feel about yourself?
>> 
>> $;,b6 at _\(;,b        What are your initial reactions to this ad?
>> 
>> $;,b6 at _\(;,b        How do you define the word, $;,b6;,h(,bb1uti;l$;,b6,i(;,b8
>> 
>> $;,b6 at _\(;,b         What is something that you find beautiful?
>> 
>> comPlease explain why you find this thing beautiful
>> 
>> $;,b6 at _\(;,b          How do you think the women is this ad define the word $;,b6;,h(,bb1uti;l$;,b6,i(;,b8
>> 
>> $;,b6 at _\(;,b          The women in this ad make a connection between the way they look and the amount of happiness they experience in their lives. Have you ever found that the way you look impacts your happiness?
>> 
>> $;,b6 at _\(;,b        This beauty campaign is one to be considered progressive. Now knowing that this is a progressive ad, how does this impact you and your understanding of beauty?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You can find the YouTube by Googling Dove Beauty Sketches.
>> 
>> 
>> Individual Interview Questions
>> Name
>> Age
>> Occupation
>> How would you describe yourself raciY/ethnically?
>> When did you become aware of your blindness?
>> $;,b6 at _\(;,b       Do you wear makeup? Why or why not?
>> $;,b6 at _[(;,b       If you do wear makeup, could you explain your $;,b6;,h(,bb1uty routine$;,b6,i(;,b8
>> $;,b6 at _\(;,b       What is something you find beautiful about yourself?
>> $;,b6 at _[(;,b       comWhat practices, objects, ideas, etc. make you feel beautiful? Why?
>> $;,b6 at _[(;,b       If you could pick three words to describe the way you look, what would they be?
>> $;,b6 at _\(;,b        Being an unsighted woman and having just listened to an ad that contains only sighted women, would you be able to describe a time in which you felt similar to these women in the ad? Such as self conscious or unhappy about the way you look?
>> $;,b6 at _\(;,b        The women in this ad make a connection between the way they look and the amount of happiness they experience in their lives. Have you ever found that the way you look impacts your happiness? What influence does appearance have on your life?
>> $;,b6 at _\(;,b       How do you think a sighted women$;,b6;,g(,bs relationship with beauty differs from an unsighted women$;,b6;,g(,bs relationship with beauty?
>> $;,b6 at _[(;,b       How are they similar?
>> $;,b6 at _\(;,b        The women in this ad talk about their desire to have their friends and family view them as attractive and confirm how they look. Being a woman without sight, how do the opinions of others influence your feelings of your appearance?
>> $;,b6 at _\(;,b       How much do you rely on other$;,b6;,g(,bs in preparing you and your appearance?
>> $;,b6 at _[(;,b       Does this mean you put trust into these individuals?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Suzanne Turner, BSW, MPA
>> Employment Coordinator and Benefit Specialist
>> 
>> Cleveland Sight Center
>> 216-791-8118 (main)
>> 216-658-7350 (direct)
>> 216-791-1101 (fax)
>> sturner at ClevelandSightCenter.org <mailto:sturner at ClevelandSightCenter.org>
>> 
>> 1909 East 101st Street
>> P.O. Box 1988
>> Cleveland, Ohio  44106-0188
>> 
>> Our Empowerment Park construction is complete! The ribbon was cut on October 17th and we have been awarded the UCI "Building the Circle" award. Come view the video here<http://youtu.be/OrJZzUfA_tc>.
>> 
>> Our Mission: To empower people with vision loss to realize their full potential, and to shape the community's vision of that potential.
>> 
>> ************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE **************************************
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> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 22:35:28 -0500
> From: "Eric Burghardt" <sinat1 at embarqmail.com>
> To: "'NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'"
>    <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Look and Listen Please?
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> 
> Amen brother
> ! It has been a couple of years since I was involved in any way with the
> NFB, but I have been considering  a return. I am very busy planning a
> wedding for the 21st of June. After that, we will see what happens.  Look
> out in the future...
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 06:44:44 -0500
> From: Marianne Denning <marianne at denningweb.com>
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>    <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] The NFB Needs You to
>    TEACH Congress a Lesson with Me!
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> 
> This is an important bill.  Please spread the word to anyone you know
> who is in post secondary education or has recently benn involved.
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 21:54:20 -0600
> Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] The NFB Needs You to TEACH Congress a
> Lesson with Me!
> To: nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org
> 
> 
> Dear Members,
> 
> My name is Cindy Bennett. I am an NFB member and the secretary of the
> National Association of Blind Students (NABS).
> 
> NABS is excited to help with the recently introduced Technology,
> Education, and Accessibility in College and Higher Education (TEACH)
> act. I am currently working with Lauren McLarney, a Government Affairs
> Specialist for the National Federation of the Blind, to collect
> stories about blind student's experiences with higher education. We
> are contacting you because we want stories from constituents living in
> every congressional district in the U.S., and we can only do this with
> your help!
> 
> In summary, the TEACH Act will create accessibility guidelines for
> electronic instructional materials and related information
> technologies used by institutions of higher education. The TEACH Act
> will provide guidelines for manufacturers of educational technology
> and clarity for institutions of higher education to ensure that
> materials are usable by all students. Earlier this year, Congressman
> Tom Petri (R-WI) introduced the TEACH Act (H.R. 3505). Click here to
> learn more about the TEACH Act.
> https://nfb.org/images/nfb/documents/word/2013%20teach%20fact%20sheet.doc.
> 
> Now that the bill has been introduced, we need to get it passed! And
> that's where you come in!
> 
> We need stories from current and recent students who are and have been
> affected by the lack of accessibility in the classroom, whether it be
> through inaccessible software, lack of materials, or late or
> inadequate accessible materials. Be sure to include a sentence of how
> accessibility guidelines would/would have helped you.
> 
> Compose your paragraph-long story and send it to me at
> clb5590 at gmail.com. Please include the school you attend/attended, and
> any congressional districts that you live in. for example, if your
> permanent address is in a different congressional district from the
> district in which you go to school, list both. If you do not know this
> information, you can look it up here.
> http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/
> There is a simple edit field where you can enter your zip code. On the
> next page, your zip code and the number district in which you reside
> are listed like this.
> 
> Zip code: 98121
> is located in the 7th Congressional district of Washington.
> 
> The second way you can help is by reinforcing the appointments Lauren
> and other NFB members have with congress. If someone has an
> appointment with your congressperson, I will contact you with the date
> of the appointment, and you can call your congressperson's office and
> tell your story. This will show your congressperson that one of their
> constituents is directly affected by inadequate accessibility and
> needs the TEACH Act. This part is very important as members of
> congress work for their constituents!
> 
> Of course, you do not have to wait for someone to have an appointment
> with your representative or senators; we encourage you to go ahead and
> contact them on your own!
> 
> Please pass this announcement on to all of the blind current and
> recent students that you know!
> 
> Finally, please feel free to contact me or Lauren McLarney with any
> questions. you can reach me at clb5590 at gmail.com, and Lauren at
> LMcLarney at nfb.org.
> 
> We look forward to receiving your stories!
> 
> Cindy Bennett and Lauren McLarney
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cindy Bennett
> Secretary: National Association of Blind Students
> 
> B.A. Psychology, UNC Wilmington
> clb5590 at gmail.com
> 
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> (513) 607-6053
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