[Ohio-talk] Proposal To Ohio Department of Education Standards urgent action needed

COLLEEN ROTH n8tnv at att.net
Mon Mar 11 12:31:15 UTC 2013


Hi Marianne,
I think minimal OandM might be good. I am thinking of orientation to a building if orientation would be significantly delayed.
Of course, someone could go with the student before school to show them around the building.
I always found it helpful to go to a new school before there were a lot of people around.
It is helpful for teachers to know basics such as keep cane on ground, trailing, sighted guide.
I think TVI's have enough to do particularly if they are Itinerant Teachers.
Resource Rooms and Self-contained Classrooms offer an advantage for students. They get more one-on-one.
Colleen Roth



----- Original Message -----
From: Marianne Denning <marianne at denningweb.com>
To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013 7:03 pm
Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Proposal To Ohio Department of Education Standards urgent action needed

>
>
> Colleen, I totally agree. I am a TVI and I am teaching a student online in
> Kansas.  This is my first attempt at virtual education but I believe it has
> promise. I think a combination of direct instruction and virtual
> instruction could increase the quantity of time students receive. I think
> your observation gives further credence to the idea that to spread TVI's
> even further is a very bad idea.  I have problems with people providing
> both O&M  and TVI instruction.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 8:57 AM, COLLEEN ROTH <n8tnv at att.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Marianne,
> > Unfortunately Aides or Paras are doing much of the teaching of blind
> > students without the training needed.
> > TVI's are basically instructing these Paras and do not have much time to
> > spend with their students.
> > It is unfortunate that this is happening.
> > There are some families who opt to send their children to a Residential
> > School because they can get instruction in Braille and other things which
> > do not get addressed in a local school.
> > Some of these aides who work with blind children do a good job but some of
> > them want the child to be dependent on them because this allows them to
> > keep their jobs.
> > We do need more TVI's. In the meantime we might consider encouraging
> > districts to hile blind adults who are Competent in reading and writing
> > Braille.
> > We might even find people who are willing to volunteer if Transportation
> > was covered.
> > Just a thought.
> > These blind adults could be tested to make sure that they are proficient
> > in Braille.
> > They would be good role models and could help with other things as well.
> > They could also encourage interactions with other students.
> > I really think that these standardsare not appropriate as proposed.
> > Colleen Roth
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Marianne Denning <marianne at denningweb.com>
> > To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Date: Thursday, March 7, 2013 8:24 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Proposal To Ohio Department of Education
> > Standards urgent action needed
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I strongly encourage everyone to take action.  TVI's are spread too thin
> > at
> > > this time.  Adding more students to an impossible caseload would further
> > > decrease needed services.  We are also not properly trained to work with
> > > these populations. It would be a disservice to the students we currently
> > > serve and the additional students we would have to serve. I agree these
> > > students need service but are TVI's the appropriate choice?
> > > I interviewed for a TVI position and learned that I would be expected to
> > > serve 30 students over 7 school districts.  No student would receive
> > > adequate services due to the heavy caseload and travel time involved.  We
> > > need to solve the extremely critical shortage of TVI's before we consider
> > > working with additional populations.
> > >
> > >
> > > Marianne Denning
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Eric Duffy <eduffy at deltav.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tuesday afternoon I attended a meeting of the OSU Advisory Bord for
> > the
> > > > teeacher training program. I learned that the Ohio Department of
> > Education
> > > > is considering changes to standards that could impact services to blind
> > > > students in a negative way.
> > > >
> > > > Please read the below and attached information and act as soon as
> > possible
> > > > If you have questions or concerns please let me know.
> > > >
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please use this information to respond to the proposed changes.  Please
> > > > forward and share this information to any other individuals who may
> > assist
> > > > in providing feedback to ODE regarding these proposed changes as well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > ****************************************************************************
> > > > **********
> > > >
> > > > Attention:          Administrators, educators, therapists, parents,
> > > > stakeholders and individuals who are involved in the support and
> > services
> > > > of
> > > > students who are blind and visually impaired
> > > >
> > > > The Ohio Department of Education is proposing changes to the ODE
> > Operating
> > > > Standards and VI Qualifications that will affect the population of
> > students
> > > > who are receiving related services under the category of "Visual
> > > > Impairment."
> > > >
> > > > These proposed changes may require VI professionals to work with
> > students
> > > > who are not visually impaired, but those who have dyslexia, binocular
> > > > dysfunction or visual processing disorders.
> > > >
> > > > What can we do?
> > > >
> > > > Please take a moment to visit the ODE website at:
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.ode.state.oh.us/GD/Templates/Pages/ODE/ODEDetail.aspx?page=3&Topi
> > > > cRelNID=967&ContentID=136416&Content=140476<
> > http://www.ode.state.oh.us/GD/Templates/Pages/ODE/ODEDetail.aspx?page=3&TopicRelationID=967&ContentID=136416&Content=140476
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Click on "Click here to comment"
> > > >
> > > > Select:  3310-51-01:  Applicability of requirements and definitions
> > > >
> > > > Enter your comments into the "Comments Section" of this page.
> > > > If you would like to submit a "General Statement" as opposed to
> > original
> > > > comments, please feel free to "cut and paste" the following statement:
> > > >
> > > > *******
> > > > I do not support the proposed changes to the ODE Operating Standards.
> >  The
> > > > proposed definition makes the category of visual impairment less
> > definitive
> > > > and vague, as there are conditions and disorders that simulate visual
> > > > impairment, but are more medical in nature.  For instance, conditions
> > such
> > > > as dyslexia or visual processing disorder are not considered visual
> > > > impairments, but learning disabilities.
> > > >
> > > > Please consider changing the qualifications for students with visual
> > > > impairments to the following:
> > > >
> > > > A student with a visual impairment is one who has been determined to
> > meet
> > > > the criteria for visual impairment as stated in 34 CFRIEND,
> > s'300.8(cgggg13) -
> > > > "Visual impairment" including blindness means an impairment in vision
> > that,
> > > > even with correction, adversely affects a child's educational
> > performance.
> > > > The term includes both partial sight and blindness."
> > > >
> > > > The visual loss should be stated in exact measures of visual field and
> > > > corrected visual acuity at a distance and at close range in each eye
> > in a
> > > > report by a licensed ophthalmologist or optometrist. The report should
> > also
> > > > include prognosis whenever possible. If exact measures cannot be
> > obtained,
> > > > the eye specialist must so state and provide best estimates. In
> > meeting the
> > > > criteria stated in 34 CFRIEND, s'300.8(cgggg13), a student with a
> > visual
> > > > impairment
> > > > is one who:
> > > >             (I) has been determined by a licensed ophthalmologist or
> > > > optometrist to have:
> > > >
> > > > (I) a visual impairment, not primarily perceptual in nature, resulting
> > in a
> > > > measured visual acuity of 20/70 or poorer in the better eye with
> > > > correction;
> > > > or
> > > >
> > > > (II)  a total field loss of 140 degrees, or more; or
> > > >
> > > > (III) a physical eye condition that affects visual functioning to the
> > > > extent
> > > > that special education placement, materials and/or services are
> > required in
> > > > an educational setting; or
> > > >
> > > > (IV) a progressive medical condition that will result in no vision or a
> > > > serious visual loss after correction."
> > > >
> > > > Submit
> > > >
> > > > ininAll comments are submitted anonymously.  You are allowed to visit
> > the site
> > > > and submit your concerns more than one time, to ensure that our
> > concerns
> > > > are
> > > > documented.
> > > >
> > > > All comments must be submitted prior to Thursday, March 14th to be
> > > > considered in the next draft.
> > > >
> > > > **********
> > > >
> > > > If you are interested in reading more about this proposal and the
> > response
> > > > of the Ohio State School for the Blind (OSSB) to the ODE changes,
> > please
> > > > refer to the attached document prepared by a team of educators at OSSB,
> > > > approved by the OSSB administration and the members of The Ohio State
> > > > University Advisory Board for Visual Impairments
> > > >
> > > > If you or your organization would like to submit a similar written
> > > > statement
> > > > to ODE, please feel free to use the information contained within the
> > > > attached document for informational purposes.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Danene K. Fast, COMS/TVI
> > > > Outreach Consultant
> > > > (614) 995-0405
> > > > dfast at ossb.oh.gov
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Celebrating 175 Years of Excellence"
> > > > Ohio State School for the Blind
> > > > 5220 North High Street
> > > > Columbus, Ohio 43214
> > > > www.ossb.oh.gov
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
> > > Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> > > (513) 607-6053
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>> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> (513) 607-6053
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