[Ohio-talk] BSVI supervisor

C Tolle tollebooth at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 18 13:25:27 UTC 2014

Send me a personal message and tell me the name of the supervisor involved I have experience with most BSB supervisors and can tell you this sounds like one in particular who can be a bit rough to deal with. Marianne is right. Pick your battles, pick them wisely, commit to your success through them and then dig in.


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> On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:58 PM, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Kaiti, as you begin your career you will quickly learn there are
> things you must do because someone else wants them.  It is very
> frustrating and I understand what you are saying.  I will advise you
> to carefully pick the battles you fight.  Sometimes, if you cooperate
> on the stupid unimportant things you will get more cooperation on the
> major issues.  If you decide this is your battle then determine what
> you want the outcome to be and negotiate with your counselor.
>> On 12/17/14, Kaiti Shelton via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I'm writing with a concern that has just come to my attention.  I have
>> had the same counselor since last year, when the VRP3 program died
>> out.  He's been very reasonable with me this entire time, and is the
>> second person in the system that I've met who has said, "These monthly
>> trainee forms, semesterly interviews, etc are repetitive).  We had the
>> agreement that I wouldn't need to do the monthly trainee forms because
>> my grades would show my progress anyway, and I turn in transcripts so
>> it is obvious if I drop or add classes.
>> However, now my counselor wants this form.  He said that he needs it
>> because his supervisor will not sign off on the authorization for next
>> semester's bill until there is some way, in her mind, that she can see
>> my progress.  There are a few problems here; first, UD is still in
>> session so grades are not due yet, and they are not due until after
>> the deadline for the bill.  Second, I emailed my billing statement to
>> my counselor about a month ago when I first got it, and he's just now
>> telling me that this form needs to be done because she said so.
>> This is the same woman who messed up the Summer Youth Work Experience
>> program at Clovernook.  After Emily and I did it this summer as
>> college students, she told Clovernook's staff that the state would no
>> longer support College students in this program.  Even though the
>> program is for high school as well as college students and Clovernook
>> makes that clear, and there were only 2 high school students and 3 of
>> us at college age in the program.  It doesn't really matter because
>> Clovernook has said they may take up the bill and extend internship
>> opportunities to Emily and I anyway because they liked us this past
>> summer, but I don't think that made BSVI happy to see Clovernook go
>> above their heads.
>> This woman also has a personal issue with my case, which I found out
>> about this summer.  From what I understand, my financial calculations
>> are different because, with my major being so obscure, I do not have
>> the choice of even going to my closest low-cost college because the
>> program isn't offered there.  Michael calculated my cost by pulling
>> the schools in Ohio that offer music therapy degrees together, and
>> finding which one of those had the lowest tuition cost.  It wouldn't
>> fully cover UD by any means, but this woman was just furious that I
>> had different circumstances.  UD also charges one lump sum and doesn't
>> break down costs individually on their bill, so when my housing
>> changed in July, I tried to call my counselor to ask what I should do
>> about the slight difference.  It ended up not even being an issue, but
>> I had to speak to the supervisor because my counselor was out of the
>> office.  She said in no uncertain terms that she did not agree with my
>> counselor, and I was "Lucky to have someone who would bend the rules
>> for me."  Legally, when you look at it, my counselor did what he was
>> supposed to do.  This woman also had no idea what I was even studying,
>> or that it was such a rare major.  She told me I should be at UC, and
>> didn't seem to believe me when I said that my major wasn't offered
>> there.  It is true that I don't get the same as everyone else, but I
>> also don't have the choices in schools that everyone else does or the
>> versatility to just go where I want for my training.
>> Maybe all this finals studying has made me a bit cynical, but from the
>> past several months and my dealings with her, it seems like she's got
>> something against the college students she's only in the past year had
>> to deal with.  I see her as a supervisor that is out of touch with the
>> needs of this particular consumer group, and one of the toughest
>> people in the system I've personally had to work with.  So, I'm not
>> even quite sure what I can do.  I've filled out the trainee form and
>> plan on sending it to Michael, but I also do not think it will be
>> well-received when she sees almost all of my courses say, "Not yet
>> released" under the grade column, and I have no answer for the updated
>> GPA.  I'm really worried their going to pay this bill late, and I've
>> already had issues last year where BSVI dropped the ball and didn't
>> pay for my tuition.  It's a lot of hassle for me while I'm in classes,
>> and a lot of hassle for the bursar, just because this woman doesn't
>> know what she's talking about and is running amuck at least as far as
>> I can tell.
>> --
>> Kaiti Shelton
>> University of Dayton 2016.
>> Music Therapy, Psychology, Philosophy
>> President, Ohio Association of Blind Students
>> Sigma Alpha Iota-Delta Sigma
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> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> (513) 607-6053
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