[Ohio-talk] Disabilities and their portrayal

Fri Jan 31 01:23:09 UTC 2014

Hi Kaiti,
There is another to be made.
If parents of a child with a disability cannot handle the responsibility and wonderful opportunity affforded to them they should place the child up for adoption.
There are many people who would be more than willing to care for a child with Special Needs.
I do admit that sometimes all that is needed is some support from others who have disabilities or from parents of children with disabilities.
I think blind adults are wonderful role models for blind children and give parents an idea of what to expect from their children.
If parents have a child who has significant disabilities parents can support each other and acquire information needed to get through the System.
Sometimes though it's better for the child to be placed up for adoption.
I had trouble with this until I got Karen and realized that Karen's parents actually gave me a gift. They honestly couldn't handle her disabilities.
Maerbe the professor is going to get to the point of explaining why ending life is wrong but how many people in the class will just miss that part.
Colleen Roth

----- Original Message -----
From: Kaiti Shelton <kaiti.shelton at gmail.com>
To: "'Ationfb of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'" <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
Date: Thursday, January 30, 2014 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Disabilities and their portrayal

>
>
> It was just so puzzling for me that the professor said, "You're ahead of the
> curve," and continued on presenting a hypothetical with false information?
> If we're supposed to build the material we discuss on future hypotheticals
> on the material discussed in the early weeks of the semester, then why would
> we start with such a baseless statement?  Why would we say it is okay for
> this hypothetical person to be killed for reasons that aren't true, then be
> expected to make even more complex decisions later in the semester?
> Furthermore, why would he admit I was right and then dismiss it to only give
> the class false information?
> 
> In my meeting with the professor before the end of last semester I asked if
> he knew of Dr. Ashe and he did not.  I even recommended the transcription of
> her speech to him, and so I guess now I'm going to have to make a paper
> topic out of it myself in order to get him to read these things.  
> 
> Aleeha is right on.  If we do not challenge these false beliefs, then we can
> only expect horrible decisions to be made later in the future.  We are not
> just changing what it means to be blind, or changing what it means to have a
> disability in the terms of philosophy, but shaping what is ethical and what
> is not too.  
> 
> Kaiti Shelton
> University of Dayton---2016
> Music Therapy Major, Psychology Minor, Clarinet
> Ohio Association of Blind Students, President 
> NFB Community Service Group, Service Project Committee Chair
> Sigma Alpha Iota-Delta Sigma
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aleeha
> Dudley
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 2:31 PM
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Disabilities and their portrayal
> 
> Hi everyone,
>  I am currently tkking a social justice class this semester and we are
> starting to discuss some very interesting issues, especially in the
> readings. It's interesting to see society's views on topics like this, but
> it is also important to continue to keep challenging the public's beliefs
> about these matters because some day, blind children will face these
> unacceptable barriers. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Jan 30, 2014, at 1:33 PM, "Paul Dressell" <pmdbmd at fuse.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Kaiti Shelton attends the University of Dayton and is active in our 
> > Students' Division. Paul
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaiti Shelton" 
> > <kaiti.shelton at gmail.com>
> > To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List" 
> > <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:21 AM
> > Subject: [Ohio-talk] Disabilities and their portrayal
> > 
> > 
> >> Hi all,
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I made quite a stir in my medical ethics class this morning.  We were 
> >> asked to consider an example from our book, which concerned a 10 year 
> >> old boy who was according to the book having all these horrible 
> >> issues as a result of CP.  Some of the things the book claimed about 
> >> this boy were not characteristics of CP at all, and it even claimed 
> >> that CP was genetic itself rather than caused by complications.  The 
> >> question was, "Is it moral to kill Johnny via lethal injection to end 
> >> his pain and the suffering of his parents?"  I wasn't going to say 
> >> anything at first, but then I started questioning things.  Is it 
> >> moral to kill someone if you think they're in pain, but they don't have
> the autonomy to tell you whether they are or not?
> >> Is it moral to kill a child when his parents are making the request?  
> >> Is it moral to make this decision without full and accurate knowledge 
> >> of what the condition really is?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> And you know what happened?  When I contradicted the book the 
> >> professor was first flustered, then when I started answering 
> >> questions with the knowledge I had he told me I was ahead of the 
> >> curve, and proceeded with his lecture, using the false information and
> pretenses the book provided.  I was shocked.
> >> This is a class of pre-med majors (and me who is the only non-medical 
> >> specific person in the class), and it boggled me that this sort of 
> >> stuff would be fed to the next generation of doctors, dietitions, 
> >> exercise scientists, etc.  I know this is just an undergraduate 
> >> class, but shouldn't doctors always take a patient-centered approach, 
> >> or a human-centered approach for that matter?  And I'm reminded of 
> >> "The Right to Live in the World," and how what that speech says 
> >> applies to this situation.  The misinformation in my bioethics 
> >> textbook only substantiates the claim that people with disabilities 
> >> lead miserable or terribly painful lives, and that misninformation in 
> >> the minds and hands of future doctors is a scary thing to me.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Anyway, just thought I'd continue discussion on this topic with 
> >> others who will get it.  I'm sorry if I ranted a little; I got a 
> >> little passionate on this issue.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Kaiti Shelton
> >> 
> >> University of Dayton---2016
> >> 
> >> Music Therapy Major, Psychology Minor, Clarinet
> >> 
> >> Ohio Association of Blind Students, President
> >> 
> >> NFB Community Service Group, Service Project Committee Chair
> >> 
> >> Sigma Alpha Iota-Delta Sigma
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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