[Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center

Wed May 21 20:11:53 UTC 2014

I agree with you totally.  I want action at Clovernook but no one else
seems interested and I can't do it alone.  Hopefully, people will get
tired of it one day and decide to change things.  I have changed my
own behaviors by refusing to work with Clovernook on any level but it
takes others to act too.

I must say, that in the case of Clovernook, it is not the direct staff
but their administration and board.

On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Totally agree with you. however if some of us are willing to stoke the
> fire, let's do it!
> One of the things Toledo folks can do is to approach board president
> and suggest forming consumer council committee. We have this and has
> become a useful tool, offering guidance, sugggestions, constructive
> critisim to agency. There should be a group of blind people that
> understand the structure of agency, financially and operationally to
> communicate what is acceptable and reasonable to consumers and agency.
> You are right. It is difficult if you don't understand or not aware of
> how much to expect from training. Thank god for nfb and this list for
> others to share concerns. Every now and then, we are too passive,
> sometimes a good fight can change that attitude.
>
> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Cheryl, I appreciate that but it will take people in the Toledo area
>> to make the needed changes.  That is why I asked if anyone from NFB
>> was on the board.  Often the board is made up of business people in
>> the community who have the ability to raise money for the organization
>> and that is good but there also need to be blind people on the board
>> who can represent the needs of the people who receive services.  This
>> could also be handled through different committees providing guidance
>> to the agency.  We can complain all we want but until we get in and
>> work for change, nothing will happen.  We need to stop being so
>> passive.
>>
>> On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> M, what do you have in mind? I am on the board of Cleveland Sight
>>> Center and am willing to help, if I can. CEO of Cleveland Sight Center
>>> may have relationship with Toledo. There must be a workable solution,
>>> it's disturbing to know that this is what is passing as rehab offered
>>> out there. Blessings, Cheryl Fields
>>>
>>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Is anyone from NFB on their board?  We have a similar problem with
>>>> Clovernook here in Cincinnati but we also have Cincinnati Association
>>>> for the Blind.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/20/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hello Aleeha,
>>>>> Anything can be stated on a website.
>>>>> That doesn't mean that that is what the staff believe.
>>>>> The website just mentions braille and then goes on to discuss other
>>>>> things.
>>>>> There is no qualified Braille Teacher at the Sight Center and Braille
>>>>> is
>>>>> not
>>>>> emphasized in any way for those who need it.
>>>>> I love my Braille Sense but I like having a slate and stylus to write
>>>>> something down because it just fits in my purse.
>>>>> I can also hand someone my information in Braille if they can read it
>>>>> and
>>>>> do
>>>>> not have something with them.
>>>>> When I want to study something sometimes I just want to read it with
>>>>> my
>>>>> fingers.
>>>>> I like to have a book to read when I am in a doctor's office and by
>>>>> someone's bedside.
>>>>> More than once, I have read something, anything, to someone who just
>>>>> wanted
>>>>> to be read to while they were in the hospital.
>>>>> Br in a book is quieter than using a notetaker when I am in Church.
>>>>> It is also much easier to use when I am standing at the Ambo to read
>>>>> Scripture for Mass.
>>>>> I have used my Braille Sense for certain Prayer Meetings and classes
>>>>> but
>>>>> give me Braille on paper for many other things.
>>>>> I also find myself using braille to label cans and other food items.
>>>>> Let's be reasonable not every one wants or can afford an iphone or ID
>>>>> Mate.
>>>>> Colleen Roth
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Aleeha Dudley via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>>>>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:36:35 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Iam not quite sure what to think about this. Although I believe that
>>>>>> Braille is not as fast as a computer for communicating, I believe it
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> still relevant and important. I think the website does a good job of
>>>>>> expressing that technology is not the only answer.
>>>>>> Aleeha
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On May 20, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk
>>>>>> > <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Since people have been talking about the Toledo Sight Center I
>>>>>> > thought
>>>>>> > I would look at their website.  Below you will find what they have
>>>>>> > to
>>>>>> > say about their technology services.  In the beginning they talk
>>>>>> > about
>>>>>> > technology and mention  that many people still use braille...  Read
>>>>>> > this and feel free to comment.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Technology Resource Center
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The rapid advancement of computer technology has opened many doors
>>>>>> > for
>>>>>> > blind and visually impaired people. Although many blind people
>>>>>> > still
>>>>>> > use Braille, the opportunity to communicate faster and easier via
>>>>>> > computers that read aloud is opening new worlds of communication
>>>>>> > including surfing the web as well as sending and receiving email.
>>>>>> > Additionally, for the visually impaired person, computers offering
>>>>>> > large screens allow for enlarged type size and high contrast color
>>>>>> > patterns that permit easier reading.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>>>>>> > Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>>>>>> > (513) 607-6053
>>>>>> >
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>> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
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Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053