[Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center

Thu May 22 14:15:50 UTC 2014

I agree Cheryl, but I always tell God to give me patience and give it
to me now.  Patience isn't always one of my strengths.  I am extremely
patient with people but there are other areas where I am not patient.

On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Mariann, Absolutely! To change it takes courage, one day it will
> happen. all we can do is control and change ourselves. Keep the Faith
> Blessings
>
> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I agree with you totally.  I want action at Clovernook but no one else
>> seems interested and I can't do it alone.  Hopefully, people will get
>> tired of it one day and decide to change things.  I have changed my
>> own behaviors by refusing to work with Clovernook on any level but it
>> takes others to act too.
>>
>> I must say, that in the case of Clovernook, it is not the direct staff
>> but their administration and board.
>>
>> On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Totally agree with you. however if some of us are willing to stoke the
>>> fire, let's do it!
>>> One of the things Toledo folks can do is to approach board president
>>> and suggest forming consumer council committee. We have this and has
>>> become a useful tool, offering guidance, sugggestions, constructive
>>> critisim to agency. There should be a group of blind people that
>>> understand the structure of agency, financially and operationally to
>>> communicate what is acceptable and reasonable to consumers and agency.
>>> You are right. It is difficult if you don't understand or not aware of
>>> how much to expect from training. Thank god for nfb and this list for
>>> others to share concerns. Every now and then, we are too passive,
>>> sometimes a good fight can change that attitude.
>>>
>>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Cheryl, I appreciate that but it will take people in the Toledo area
>>>> to make the needed changes.  That is why I asked if anyone from NFB
>>>> was on the board.  Often the board is made up of business people in
>>>> the community who have the ability to raise money for the organization
>>>> and that is good but there also need to be blind people on the board
>>>> who can represent the needs of the people who receive services.  This
>>>> could also be handled through different committees providing guidance
>>>> to the agency.  We can complain all we want but until we get in and
>>>> work for change, nothing will happen.  We need to stop being so
>>>> passive.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> M, what do you have in mind? I am on the board of Cleveland Sight
>>>>> Center and am willing to help, if I can. CEO of Cleveland Sight Center
>>>>> may have relationship with Toledo. There must be a workable solution,
>>>>> it's disturbing to know that this is what is passing as rehab offered
>>>>> out there. Blessings, Cheryl Fields
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Is anyone from NFB on their board?  We have a similar problem with
>>>>>> Clovernook here in Cincinnati but we also have Cincinnati Association
>>>>>> for the Blind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/20/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello Aleeha,
>>>>>>> Anything can be stated on a website.
>>>>>>> That doesn't mean that that is what the staff believe.
>>>>>>> The website just mentions braille and then goes on to discuss other
>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>> There is no qualified Braille Teacher at the Sight Center and
>>>>>>> Braille
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> emphasized in any way for those who need it.
>>>>>>> I love my Braille Sense but I like having a slate and stylus to
>>>>>>> write
>>>>>>> something down because it just fits in my purse.
>>>>>>> I can also hand someone my information in Braille if they can read
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> not have something with them.
>>>>>>> When I want to study something sometimes I just want to read it with
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> fingers.
>>>>>>> I like to have a book to read when I am in a doctor's office and by
>>>>>>> someone's bedside.
>>>>>>> More than once, I have read something, anything, to someone who just
>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>> to be read to while they were in the hospital.
>>>>>>> Br in a book is quieter than using a notetaker when I am in Church.
>>>>>>> It is also much easier to use when I am standing at the Ambo to read
>>>>>>> Scripture for Mass.
>>>>>>> I have used my Braille Sense for certain Prayer Meetings and classes
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> give me Braille on paper for many other things.
>>>>>>> I also find myself using braille to label cans and other food items.
>>>>>>> Let's be reasonable not every one wants or can afford an iphone or
>>>>>>> ID
>>>>>>> Mate.
>>>>>>> Colleen Roth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Aleeha Dudley via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>>>>>>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:36:35 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Iam not quite sure what to think about this. Although I believe
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> Braille is not as fast as a computer for communicating, I believe
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> still relevant and important. I think the website does a good job
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> expressing that technology is not the only answer.
>>>>>>>> Aleeha
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > On May 20, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk
>>>>>>>> > <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Since people have been talking about the Toledo Sight Center I
>>>>>>>> > thought
>>>>>>>> > I would look at their website.  Below you will find what they
>>>>>>>> > have
>>>>>>>> > to
>>>>>>>> > say about their technology services.  In the beginning they talk
>>>>>>>> > about
>>>>>>>> > technology and mention  that many people still use braille...
>>>>>>>> > Read
>>>>>>>> > this and feel free to comment.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Technology Resource Center
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > The rapid advancement of computer technology has opened many
>>>>>>>> > doors
>>>>>>>> > for
>>>>>>>> > blind and visually impaired people. Although many blind people
>>>>>>>> > still
>>>>>>>> > use Braille, the opportunity to communicate faster and easier via
>>>>>>>> > computers that read aloud is opening new worlds of communication
>>>>>>>> > including surfing the web as well as sending and receiving email.
>>>>>>>> > Additionally, for the visually impaired person, computers
>>>>>>>> > offering
>>>>>>>> > large screens allow for enlarged type size and high contrast
>>>>>>>> > color
>>>>>>>> > patterns that permit easier reading.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>> > Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>>>>>>>> > Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>>>>>>>> > (513) 607-6053
>>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>>>>>> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>>>>>> (513) 607-6053
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Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053