[Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center

Fri May 23 02:26:07 UTC 2014

Ditto, Mariann. Patience is a weakness of mine, add me to your
prayers. Blessings

On 5/22/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I agree Cheryl, but I always tell God to give me patience and give it
> to me now.  Patience isn't always one of my strengths.  I am extremely
> patient with people but there are other areas where I am not patient.
>
> On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Mariann, Absolutely! To change it takes courage, one day it will
>> happen. all we can do is control and change ourselves. Keep the Faith
>> Blessings
>>
>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> I agree with you totally.  I want action at Clovernook but no one else
>>> seems interested and I can't do it alone.  Hopefully, people will get
>>> tired of it one day and decide to change things.  I have changed my
>>> own behaviors by refusing to work with Clovernook on any level but it
>>> takes others to act too.
>>>
>>> I must say, that in the case of Clovernook, it is not the direct staff
>>> but their administration and board.
>>>
>>> On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Totally agree with you. however if some of us are willing to stoke the
>>>> fire, let's do it!
>>>> One of the things Toledo folks can do is to approach board president
>>>> and suggest forming consumer council committee. We have this and has
>>>> become a useful tool, offering guidance, sugggestions, constructive
>>>> critisim to agency. There should be a group of blind people that
>>>> understand the structure of agency, financially and operationally to
>>>> communicate what is acceptable and reasonable to consumers and agency.
>>>> You are right. It is difficult if you don't understand or not aware of
>>>> how much to expect from training. Thank god for nfb and this list for
>>>> others to share concerns. Every now and then, we are too passive,
>>>> sometimes a good fight can change that attitude.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Cheryl, I appreciate that but it will take people in the Toledo area
>>>>> to make the needed changes.  That is why I asked if anyone from NFB
>>>>> was on the board.  Often the board is made up of business people in
>>>>> the community who have the ability to raise money for the organization
>>>>> and that is good but there also need to be blind people on the board
>>>>> who can represent the needs of the people who receive services.  This
>>>>> could also be handled through different committees providing guidance
>>>>> to the agency.  We can complain all we want but until we get in and
>>>>> work for change, nothing will happen.  We need to stop being so
>>>>> passive.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/21/14, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> M, what do you have in mind? I am on the board of Cleveland Sight
>>>>>> Center and am willing to help, if I can. CEO of Cleveland Sight
>>>>>> Center
>>>>>> may have relationship with Toledo. There must be a workable solution,
>>>>>> it's disturbing to know that this is what is passing as rehab offered
>>>>>> out there. Blessings, Cheryl Fields
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/21/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Is anyone from NFB on their board?  We have a similar problem with
>>>>>>> Clovernook here in Cincinnati but we also have Cincinnati
>>>>>>> Association
>>>>>>> for the Blind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/20/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello Aleeha,
>>>>>>>> Anything can be stated on a website.
>>>>>>>> That doesn't mean that that is what the staff believe.
>>>>>>>> The website just mentions braille and then goes on to discuss other
>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>> There is no qualified Braille Teacher at the Sight Center and
>>>>>>>> Braille
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> emphasized in any way for those who need it.
>>>>>>>> I love my Braille Sense but I like having a slate and stylus to
>>>>>>>> write
>>>>>>>> something down because it just fits in my purse.
>>>>>>>> I can also hand someone my information in Braille if they can read
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> not have something with them.
>>>>>>>> When I want to study something sometimes I just want to read it
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> fingers.
>>>>>>>> I like to have a book to read when I am in a doctor's office and by
>>>>>>>> someone's bedside.
>>>>>>>> More than once, I have read something, anything, to someone who
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>> to be read to while they were in the hospital.
>>>>>>>> Br in a book is quieter than using a notetaker when I am in Church.
>>>>>>>> It is also much easier to use when I am standing at the Ambo to
>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>> Scripture for Mass.
>>>>>>>> I have used my Braille Sense for certain Prayer Meetings and
>>>>>>>> classes
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> give me Braille on paper for many other things.
>>>>>>>> I also find myself using braille to label cans and other food
>>>>>>>> items.
>>>>>>>> Let's be reasonable not every one wants or can afford an iphone or
>>>>>>>> ID
>>>>>>>> Mate.
>>>>>>>> Colleen Roth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: Aleeha Dudley via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>>>>>>>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:36:35 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Toledo Sight Center
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Iam not quite sure what to think about this. Although I believe
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> Braille is not as fast as a computer for communicating, I believe
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> still relevant and important. I think the website does a good job
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> expressing that technology is not the only answer.
>>>>>>>>> Aleeha
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > On May 20, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk
>>>>>>>>> > <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Since people have been talking about the Toledo Sight Center I
>>>>>>>>> > thought
>>>>>>>>> > I would look at their website.  Below you will find what they
>>>>>>>>> > have
>>>>>>>>> > to
>>>>>>>>> > say about their technology services.  In the beginning they talk
>>>>>>>>> > about
>>>>>>>>> > technology and mention  that many people still use braille...
>>>>>>>>> > Read
>>>>>>>>> > this and feel free to comment.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Technology Resource Center
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > The rapid advancement of computer technology has opened many
>>>>>>>>> > doors
>>>>>>>>> > for
>>>>>>>>> > blind and visually impaired people. Although many blind people
>>>>>>>>> > still
>>>>>>>>> > use Braille, the opportunity to communicate faster and easier
>>>>>>>>> > via
>>>>>>>>> > computers that read aloud is opening new worlds of communication
>>>>>>>>> > including surfing the web as well as sending and receiving
>>>>>>>>> > email.
>>>>>>>>> > Additionally, for the visually impaired person, computers
>>>>>>>>> > offering
>>>>>>>>> > large screens allow for enlarged type size and high contrast
>>>>>>>>> > color
>>>>>>>>> > patterns that permit easier reading.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>>> > Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>>>>>>>>> > Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>>>>>>>>> > (513) 607-6053
>>>>>>>>> >
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