[Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling

Fri May 23 12:51:14 UTC 2014

OK

On 5/23/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Cheryl,
> Unfortunately your methods won't for Dawn because her husband had a stroke
> and doesn't remember things and didn't do well even before that.
> Her son has some Learning Disabilities and wouldn't remember either.
> Colleen Roth
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cheryl Fields via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Thursday, May 22, 2014 10:41:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling
>
>>
>>
>> Ladies, when I lost my vision, in the 80's, I had a very difficult
>> time with braille. Learned grade 1, enough for labeling. But, another
>> trick of mine is for frozen foods. For beef I repackage in aluminum
>> foil, all chicken in plastic bags, pork stays in store packaging,
>> don't buy too often. Back in the day, rubberbands came in handy and
>> wax paper as a reminder for odd items. I purchase most beggies frozen,
>> only buy canned soups and tomato products. I try to lay veggies flat
>> in freezer, because you can feel what they are through packaging.
>> Still buy spinach in box frozen. I live alone so this method is easy,
>> no other hands to mess it up.
>> I recently find the need to lable plastic bottles and spices,
>> companies no longer have distinctive bottles. Example, Windex is the
>> same as other spray cleaners and ketsup and mustard can be the same.
>> Salad dressings, it goes on and on. The important thing is that Dawn
>> comes up with her own system and sticks to it with the understanding
>> that the family cooperates. I raised 2 children using this and now I'm
>> explaining my system to 2 grands, they catch on quick and love to
>> help. As I grow older the problem becomes, where do I hide things from
>> myfealol! Blessings, cheryl
>>
>> On 5/22/14, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> > If she is a low vision therapist she should not function as a
>> > rehabilitation teacher.  Dawn should request a change.  No rehab
>> > teacher would recommend shaking cans.  That is not a technique ever
>> > taught to rehab teachers.  A rehab teacher would work on organization
>> > skills, different labeling options and similar techniques.  I worked
>> > as a rehab teacher for 8 years and the other rehab teachers were
>> > sighted.  They taught braille, labeling and organization, along with
>> > many other techniques.  Are you helping Dawn learn braille?  I know
>> > she thinks you are wonderful!
>> >
>> > On 5/22/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >ar Hi,
>> >ar I do not know anything about the other teacher. I actually think Megan
>> > is
>> >ar trained as a Low Vision Therapist.
>> >ar My daughter actually had an OT who knew Braille and who asked me for
>> > ideas
>> >ar for blind students at Yood Lane which is a Separate School for
>> >ar Multihandicapped children.
>> >ar She and I did some things so that I could go over things with Monica
>> > and
>> >ar they were in Braille.
>> >ar I can sometimes guess what is in a can of food but wouldnt want to
>> > depend
>> >ar on
>> >ar that method for finding what I need in the kitchen.
>> >ar Colleen Roth
>> >ar
>> >ar
>> >ar
>> >ar ----- Original Message -----
>> >ar From: Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >ar To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>> > <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >ar Date: Thursday, May 22, 2014 07:05:11 PM
>> >ar Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling
>> >ar
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Is Megan a rehab teacher or an occupational therapist?  Every rehab
>> >>> teacher I have known knows all of the braille code.  Where did she
>> >>> obtain her certification?  Many times agencies are hiring
>> >>> occupational
>> >>> therapists and I am very concerned about that practice.  I don't
>> >>> think
>> >>> OTs know blindness skills well enough to teach them.  They may be
>> >>> okay
>> >>> as a low vision therapist.
>> >>>
>> >>> I think shaking cans is totally ridiculous.  I have been blind since
>> >>> birth and can, sometimes, tell one canned item from another but I
>> >>> wouldn't want to bet the farm on my ability.  There is another rehab
>> >>> teacher at the Toledo Sight Center.  Is she better with braille than
>> >>> Megan?
>> >>>
>> >>> On 5/22/14, COLLEEN ROTH via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >>> >  Hi Marianne,
>> >>> > I gave a Voxcomm to Dawn and I have ordered the cards for her.
>> >>> > This is the device which Megan said she shouldn't use because it is
>> >>> > outdated.
>> >>> > I am not saying Braille is the only option but Dawn wants to try to
>> >>> > learn
>> >>> > braille.
>> >>> > People should have the option of using whatever works for them and
>> >>> > they
>> >>> > shouldn't be told that braille is outdated or an outmoded method of
>> >>> > reading
>> >>> > and writing.
>> >>> > I know you support braille.
>> >>> > I just feel that people who work with the blind should not belittle
>> >>> > or
>> >>> > put
>> >>> > down the use of braille and if they are a Rehab Teacher they should
>> >>> > know
>> >>> > braille and be able to teach it.
>> >>> > Colleen Roth
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> > From: Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> > To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>> >>> > <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> > Date: Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:45 am
>> >>> > Subject: [Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling
>> >>> >
>> >>> >ar
>> >>> >ar
>> >>> >ar Okay, a rehab teacher or occupational therapist in Toledo is not
>> >>> > well
>> >>> >ar trained on work with people who are blind.  There are other ways
>> >>> > to
>> >>> >ar label items around the home without learning braille.  I strongly
>> >>> >ar recommend braille but if that is not an option you can purchase
>> >>> > the
>> >>> >ar Pen Friend ($139.99) or Voxcom and 100 cards ($124.99) from
>> >>> > Maxiaids.
>> >>> >ar Both devices allow you to record a voice message and attach it to
>> >>> >ar anything you want to label.  I just checked those prices.  I
>> >>> > believe
>> >>> >ar you can purchase additional labels for the Pen Friend for $20.00
>> >>> > per
>> >>> >ar pack but you cannot purchase additional cards for the Voxcom.
>> >>> > The
>> >>> >ar Voxcom cards are reuseable and can hold a 10 second message.
>> >>> >ar
>> >>> >ar --
>> >>> >ar Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>> >>> >ar Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>> >>> >ar (513) 607-6053
>> >>> >ar
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>> > Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>> > (513) 607-6053
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