[Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling

Tue May 27 17:48:22 UTC 2014

 Hi Marianne,
Megan suggested that Dawn use Puffy Paint to label cans or buy everything fresh.
My question is how would you do without things like Tomato Sauce, pie filling, and Cream soups just to name a few things.
Who would want to use puffy paint? Wouldn't that take a lot of time to apply and to dry?
Colleen Roth

----- Original Message -----
From: Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
Date: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:30 pm
Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling

>
>
> I understand that an individual doesn't want to memorize a lot of
> things.  I think it is discouraging when a "professional" only makes
> one suggestion.  There are many ways to accomplish something and there
> is no one solution for everyone.  I always remind myself that if a
> student doesn't learn what I am trying to teach they didn't fail but I
> haven't found the right method yet.  The responsibility for teaching
> is on the teacher not the student.  That certainly doesn't mean I am
> not frustrated at times but that philosophy keeps me working to find
> something that works.  Teaching a person who has recently lost vision
> is a challenging task and takes someone who is creative and inventive.
>  It sounds like you have those skills.
> 
> On 5/23/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > Hi Marianne,
> > I am working with Dawn on several things. I hope she will be able to learn
> > Braille but she has very severe Neuropathy.
> > I do not think that there is anyone available at the Sight Center to work
> > with Dawn.
> > I have been able to find things Dawn needs and hopefully she will be
> > ordering the Safe Shot soon so that she can independently draw up her
> > Insulin.
> > Dawn was given some things like different shaped buttons and other things
> > for clothing but she didn't want to memrize all of those shapes.
> > I ordered some of the cards for the Voxcomm but they were on back order.
> > I need to call to check on them again.
> > Colleen Roth
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Date: Thursday, May 22, 2014 08:29:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> If she is a low vision therapist she should not function as a
> >> rehabilitation teacher.  Dawn should request a change.  No rehab
> >> teacher would recommend shaking cans.  That is not a technique ever
> >> taught to rehab teachers.  A rehab teacher would work on organization
> >> skills, different labeling options and similar techniques.  I worked
> >> as a rehab teacher for 8 years and the other rehab teachers were
> >> sighted.  They taught braille, labeling and organization, along with
> >> many other techniques.  Are you helping Dawn learn braille?  I know
> >> she thinks you are wonderful!
> >>
> >> On 5/22/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> > I do not know anything about the other teacher. I actually think Megan
> >> > is
> >> > trained as a Low Vision Therapist.
> >> > My daughter actually had an OT who knew Braille and who asked me for
> >> > ideas
> >> > for blind students at Yood Lane which is a Separate School for
> >> > Multihandicapped children.
> >> > She and I did some things so that I could go over things with Monica
> >> > and
> >> > they were in Braille.
> >> > I can sometimes guess what is in a can of food but wouldnt want to
> >> > depend on
> >> > that method for finding what I need in the kitchen.
> >> > Colleen Roth
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> > To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Date: Thursday, May 22, 2014 07:05:11 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling
> >> >
> >> >ar
> >> >ar
> >> >ar Is Megan a rehab teacher or an occupational therapist?  Every rehab
> >> >ar teacher I have known knows all of the braille code.  Where did she
> >> >ar obtain her certification?  Many times agencies are hiring
> >> > occupational
> >> >ar therapists and I am very concerned about that practice.  I don't
> >> > think
> >> >ar OTs know blindness skills well enough to teach them.  They may be
> >> > okay
> >> >ar as a low vision therapist.
> >> >ar
> >> >ar I think shaking cans is totally ridiculous.  I have been blind since
> >> >ar birth and can, sometimes, tell one canned item from another but I
> >> >ar wouldn't want to bet the farm on my ability.  There is another rehab
> >> >ar teacher at the Toledo Sight Center.  Is she better with braille than
> >> >ar Megan?
> >> >ar
> >> >ar On 5/22/14, COLLEEN ROTH via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >> >ar >  Hi Marianne,
> >> >ar > I gave a Voxcomm to Dawn and I have ordered the cards for her.
> >> >ar > This is the device which Megan said she shouldn't use because it is
> >> >ar > outdated.
> >> >ar > I am not saying Braille is the only option but Dawn wants to try to
> >> >ar > learn
> >> >ar > braille.
> >> >ar > People should have the option of using whatever works for them and
> >> > they
> >> >ar > shouldn't be told that braille is outdated or an outmoded method of
> >> >ar > reading
> >> >ar > and writing.
> >> >ar > I know you support braille.
> >> >ar > I just feel that people who work with the blind should not belittle
> >> > or
> >> >ar > put
> >> >ar > down the use of braille and if they are a Rehab Teacher they should
> >> >ar > know
> >> >ar > braille and be able to teach it.
> >> >ar > Colleen Roth
> >> >ar >
> >> >ar >
> >> >ar >
> >> >ar > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >ar > From: Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> >ar > To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> >> > <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> >ar > Date: Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:45 am
> >> >ar > Subject: [Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling
> >> >ar >
> >> >ar >ar
> >> >ar >ar
> >> >ar >ar Okay, a rehab teacher or occupational therapist in Toledo is not
> >> > well
> >> >ar >ar trained on work with people who are blind.  There are other ways
> >> > to
> >> >ar >ar label items around the home without learning braille.  I strongly
> >> >ar >ar recommend braille but if that is not an option you can purchase
> >> > the
> >> >ar >ar Pen Friend ($139.99) or Voxcom and 100 cards ($124.99) from
> >> > Maxiaids.
> >> >ar >ar Both devices allow you to record a voice message and attach it to
> >> >ar >ar anything you want to label.  I just checked those prices.  I
> >> > believe
> >> >ar >ar you can purchase additional labels for the Pen Friend for $20.00
> >> > per
> >> >ar >ar pack but you cannot purchase additional cards for the Voxcom.
> >> > The
> >> >ar >ar Voxcom cards are reuseable and can hold a 10 second message.
> >> >ar >ar
> >> >ar >ar —
> >> >ar >ar Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
> >> >ar >ar Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> >> >ar >ar (513) 607-6053
> >> >ar >ar
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> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
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