[Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling

Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
Tue May 27 18:17:04 UTC 2014 

Colleen, puffy paint or spot n line, are ways to create labels.  You
create the label on file cards and attach them to the cans with rubber
bands.  That way the labels are reusable.  It is a solution but, I
think the Voxcom or Pen Friend is a better option.  Does she have a
smart phone? Did Megan offer to make some labels for her?  Does Dawn
have someone who can make labels?

On 5/27/14, COLLEEN ROTH via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>  Hi Marianne,
> Megan suggested that Dawn use Puffy Paint to label cans or buy everything
> fresh.
> My question is how would you do without things like Tomato Sauce, pie
> filling, and Cream soups just to name a few things.
> Who would want to use puffy paint? Wouldn't that take a lot of time to apply
> and to dry?
> Colleen Roth
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:30 pm
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling
>
>>
>>
>> I understand that an individual doesn't want to memorize a lot of
>> things.  I think it is discouraging when a "professional" only makes
>> one suggestion.  There are many ways to accomplish something and there
>> is no one solution for everyone.  I always remind myself that if a
>> student doesn't learn what I am trying to teach they didn't fail but I
>> haven't found the right method yet.  The responsibility for teaching
>> is on the teacher not the student.  That certainly doesn't mean I am
>> not frustrated at times but that philosophy keeps me working to find
>> something that works.  Teaching a person who has recently lost vision
>> is a challenging task and takes someone who is creative and inventive.
>>  It sounds like you have those skills.
>>
>> On 5/23/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> > Hi Marianne,
>> > I am working with Dawn on several things. I hope she will be able to
>> > learn
>> > Braille but she has very severe Neuropathy.
>> > I do not think that there is anyone available at the Sight Center to
>> > work
>> > with Dawn.
>> > I have been able to find things Dawn needs and hopefully she will be
>> > ordering the Safe Shot soon so that she can independently draw up her
>> > Insulin.
>> > Dawn was given some things like different shaped buttons and other
>> > things
>> > for clothing but she didn't want to memrize all of those shapes.
>> > I ordered some of the cards for the Voxcomm but they were on back
>> > order.
>> > I need to call to check on them again.
>> > Colleen Roth
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Date: Thursday, May 22, 2014 08:29:58 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If she is a low vision therapist she should not function as a
>> >> rehabilitation teacher.  Dawn should request a change.  No rehab
>> >> teacher would recommend shaking cans.  That is not a technique ever
>> >> taught to rehab teachers.  A rehab teacher would work on organization
>> >> skills, different labeling options and similar techniques.  I worked
>> >> as a rehab teacher for 8 years and the other rehab teachers were
>> >> sighted.  They taught braille, labeling and organization, along with
>> >> many other techniques.  Are you helping Dawn learn braille?  I know
>> >> she thinks you are wonderful!
>> >>
>> >> On 5/22/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> > I do not know anything about the other teacher. I actually think
>> >> > Megan
>> >> > is
>> >> > trained as a Low Vision Therapist.
>> >> > My daughter actually had an OT who knew Braille and who asked me for
>> >> > ideas
>> >> > for blind students at Yood Lane which is a Separate School for
>> >> > Multihandicapped children.
>> >> > She and I did some things so that I could go over things with Monica
>> >> > and
>> >> > they were in Braille.
>> >> > I can sometimes guess what is in a can of food but wouldnt want to
>> >> > depend on
>> >> > that method for finding what I need in the kitchen.
>> >> > Colleen Roth
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >> > To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>> >> > <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >> > Date: Thursday, May 22, 2014 07:05:11 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling
>> >> >
>> >> >ar
>> >> >ar
>> >> >ar Is Megan a rehab teacher or an occupational therapist?  Every
>> >> > rehab
>> >> >ar teacher I have known knows all of the braille code.  Where did she
>> >> >ar obtain her certification?  Many times agencies are hiring
>> >> > occupational
>> >> >ar therapists and I am very concerned about that practice.  I don't
>> >> > think
>> >> >ar OTs know blindness skills well enough to teach them.  They may be
>> >> > okay
>> >> >ar as a low vision therapist.
>> >> >ar
>> >> >ar I think shaking cans is totally ridiculous.  I have been blind
>> >> > since
>> >> >ar birth and can, sometimes, tell one canned item from another but I
>> >> >ar wouldn't want to bet the farm on my ability.  There is another
>> >> > rehab
>> >> >ar teacher at the Toledo Sight Center.  Is she better with braille
>> >> > than
>> >> >ar Megan?
>> >> >ar
>> >> >ar On 5/22/14, COLLEEN ROTH via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >ar >  Hi Marianne,
>> >> >ar > I gave a Voxcomm to Dawn and I have ordered the cards for her.
>> >> >ar > This is the device which Megan said she shouldn't use because it
>> >> > is
>> >> >ar > outdated.
>> >> >ar > I am not saying Braille is the only option but Dawn wants to try
>> >> > to
>> >> >ar > learn
>> >> >ar > braille.
>> >> >ar > People should have the option of using whatever works for them
>> >> > and
>> >> > they
>> >> >ar > shouldn't be told that braille is outdated or an outmoded method
>> >> > of
>> >> >ar > reading
>> >> >ar > and writing.
>> >> >ar > I know you support braille.
>> >> >ar > I just feel that people who work with the blind should not
>> >> > belittle
>> >> > or
>> >> >ar > put
>> >> >ar > down the use of braille and if they are a Rehab Teacher they
>> >> > should
>> >> >ar > know
>> >> >ar > braille and be able to teach it.
>> >> >ar > Colleen Roth
>> >> >ar >
>> >> >ar >
>> >> >ar >
>> >> >ar > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >ar > From: Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >ar > To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>> >> > <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >ar > Date: Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:45 am
>> >> >ar > Subject: [Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling
>> >> >ar >
>> >> >ar >ar
>> >> >ar >ar
>> >> >ar >ar Okay, a rehab teacher or occupational therapist in Toledo is
>> >> > not
>> >> > well
>> >> >ar >ar trained on work with people who are blind.  There are other
>> >> > ways
>> >> > to
>> >> >ar >ar label items around the home without learning braille.  I
>> >> > strongly
>> >> >ar >ar recommend braille but if that is not an option you can
>> >> > purchase
>> >> > the
>> >> >ar >ar Pen Friend ($139.99) or Voxcom and 100 cards ($124.99) from
>> >> > Maxiaids.
>> >> >ar >ar Both devices allow you to record a voice message and attach it
>> >> > to
>> >> >ar >ar anything you want to label.  I just checked those prices.  I
>> >> > believe
>> >> >ar >ar you can purchase additional labels for the Pen Friend for
>> >> > $20.00
>> >> > per
>> >> >ar >ar pack but you cannot purchase additional cards for the Voxcom.
>> >> > The
>> >> >ar >ar Voxcom cards are reuseable and can hold a 10 second message.
>> >> >ar >ar
>> >> >ar >ar —
>> >> >ar >ar Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>> >> >ar >ar Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>> >> >ar >ar (513) 607-6053
>> >> >ar >ar
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