[Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling

Tue May 27 19:18:58 UTC 2014

Hi Marianne,
I didn't think of putting the puffy paint on the index cards.
This may work.
I do think the Voxcomm or Pen Friend would be better.
Megan did not offer to help Dawn with the labeling but Dawn doesn't want her to do anything else.
I think that Puffy Paint would be difficult for Dawn unless we used a lot for each label.
Colleen Roth

----- Original Message -----
From: Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 02:17:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling

>
>
> Colleen, puffy paint or spot n line, are ways to create labels.  You
> create the label on file cards and attach them to the cans with rubber
> bands.  That way the labels are reusable.  It is a solution but, I
> think the Voxcom or Pen Friend is a better option.  Does she have a
> smart phone? Did Megan offer to make some labels for her?  Does Dawn
> have someone who can make labels?
> 
> On 5/27/14, COLLEEN ROTH via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >  Hi Marianne,
> > Megan suggested that Dawn use Puffy Paint to label cans or buy everything
> > fresh.
> > My question is how would you do without things like Tomato Sauce, pie
> > filling, and Cream soups just to name a few things.
> > Who would want to use puffy paint? Wouldn't that take a lot of time to apply
> > and to dry?
> > Colleen Roth
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Date: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:30 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling
> >
> >ar
> >ar
> >ar I understand that an individual doesn't want to memorize a lot of
> >ar things.  I think it is discouraging when a "professional" only makes
> >ar one suggestion.  There are many ways to accomplish something and there
> >ar is no one solution for everyone.  I always remind myself that if a
> >ar student doesn't learn what I am trying to teach they didn't fail but I
> >ar haven't found the right method yet.  The responsibility for teaching
> >ar is on the teacher not the student.  That certainly doesn't mean I am
> >ar not frustrated at times but that philosophy keeps me working to find
> >ar something that works.  Teaching a person who has recently lost vision
> >ar is a challenging task and takes someone who is creative and inventive.
> >ar  It sounds like you have those skills.
> >ar
> >ar On 5/23/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >ar > Hi Marianne,
> >ar > I am working with Dawn on several things. I hope she will be able to
> >ar > learn
> >ar > Braille but she has very severe Neuropathy.
> >ar > I do not think that there is anyone available at the Sight Center to
> >ar > work
> >ar > with Dawn.
> >ar > I have been able to find things Dawn needs and hopefully she will be
> >ar > ordering the Safe Shot soon so that she can independently draw up her
> >ar > Insulin.
> >ar > Dawn was given some things like different shaped buttons and other
> >ar > things
> >ar > for clothing but she didn't want to memrize all of those shapes.
> >ar > I ordered some of the cards for the Voxcomm but they were on back
> >ar > order.
> >ar > I need to call to check on them again.
> >ar > Colleen Roth
> >ar >
> >ar >
> >ar >
> >ar > ----- Original Message -----
> >ar > From: Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >ar > To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >ar > Date: Thursday, May 22, 2014 08:29:58 PM
> >ar > Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling
> >ar >
> >ar >ar
> >ar >ar
> >ar >ar If she is a low vision therapist she should not function as a
> >ar >ar rehabilitation teacher.  Dawn should request a change.  No rehab
> >ar >ar teacher would recommend shaking cans.  That is not a technique ever
> >ar >ar taught to rehab teachers.  A rehab teacher would work on organization
> >ar >ar skills, different labeling options and similar techniques.  I worked
> >ar >ar as a rehab teacher for 8 years and the other rehab teachers were
> >ar >ar sighted.  They taught braille, labeling and organization, along with
> >ar >ar many other techniques.  Are you helping Dawn learn braille?  I know
> >ar >ar she thinks you are wonderful!
> >ar >ar
> >ar >ar On 5/22/14, Colleen Roth via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >ar >ar > Hi,
> >ar >ar > I do not know anything about the other teacher. I actually think
> >ar >ar > Megan
> >ar >ar > is
> >ar >ar > trained as a Low Vision Therapist.
> >ar >ar > My daughter actually had an OT who knew Braille and who asked me for
> >ar >ar > ideas
> >ar >ar > for blind students at Yood Lane which is a Separate School for
> >ar >ar > Multihandicapped children.
> >ar >ar > She and I did some things so that I could go over things with Monica
> >ar >ar > and
> >ar >ar > they were in Braille.
> >ar >ar > I can sometimes guess what is in a can of food but wouldnt want to
> >ar >ar > depend on
> >ar >ar > that method for finding what I need in the kitchen.
> >ar >ar > Colleen Roth
> >ar >ar >
> >ar >ar >
> >ar >ar >
> >ar >ar > ----- Original Message -----
> >ar >ar > From: Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >ar >ar > To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> >ar >ar > <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >ar >ar > Date: Thursday, May 22, 2014 07:05:11 PM
> >ar >ar > Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling
> >ar >ar >
> >ar >ar >ar
> >ar >ar >ar
> >ar >ar >ar Is Megan a rehab teacher or an occupational therapist?  Every
> >ar >ar > rehab
> >ar >ar >ar teacher I have known knows all of the braille code.  Where did she
> >ar >ar >ar obtain her certification?  Many times agencies are hiring
> >ar >ar > occupational
> >ar >ar >ar therapists and I am very concerned about that practice.  I don't
> >ar >ar > think
> >ar >ar >ar OTs know blindness skills well enough to teach them.  They may be
> >ar >ar > okay
> >ar >ar >ar as a low vision therapist.
> >ar >ar >ar
> >ar >ar >ar I think shaking cans is totally ridiculous.  I have been blind
> >ar >ar > since
> >ar >ar >ar birth and can, sometimes, tell one canned item from another but I
> >ar >ar >ar wouldn't want to bet the farm on my ability.  There is another
> >ar >ar > rehab
> >ar >ar >ar teacher at the Toledo Sight Center.  Is she better with braille
> >ar >ar > than
> >ar >ar >ar Megan?
> >ar >ar >ar
> >ar >ar >ar On 5/22/14, COLLEEN ROTH via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >ar >ar > wrote:
> >ar >ar >ar >  Hi Marianne,
> >ar >ar >ar > I gave a Voxcomm to Dawn and I have ordered the cards for her.
> >ar >ar >ar > This is the device which Megan said she shouldn't use because it
> >ar >ar > is
> >ar >ar >ar > outdated.
> >ar >ar >ar > I am not saying Braille is the only option but Dawn wants to try
> >ar >ar > to
> >ar >ar >ar > learn
> >ar >ar >ar > braille.
> >ar >ar >ar > People should have the option of using whatever works for them
> >ar >ar > and
> >ar >ar > they
> >ar >ar >ar > shouldn't be told that braille is outdated or an outmoded method
> >ar >ar > of
> >ar >ar >ar > reading
> >ar >ar >ar > and writing.
> >ar >ar >ar > I know you support braille.
> >ar >ar >ar > I just feel that people who work with the blind should not
> >ar >ar > belittle
> >ar >ar > or
> >ar >ar >ar > put
> >ar >ar >ar > down the use of braille and if they are a Rehab Teacher they
> >ar >ar > should
> >ar >ar >ar > know
> >ar >ar >ar > braille and be able to teach it.
> >ar >ar >ar > Colleen Roth
> >ar >ar >ar >
> >ar >ar >ar >
> >ar >ar >ar >
> >ar >ar >ar > ----- Original Message -----
> >ar >ar >ar > From: Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >ar >ar >ar > To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> >ar >ar > <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >ar >ar >ar > Date: Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:45 am
> >ar >ar >ar > Subject: [Ohio-talk] ideas for labeling
> >ar >ar >ar >
> >ar >ar >ar >ar
> >ar >ar >ar >ar
> >ar >ar >ar >ar Okay, a rehab teacher or occupational therapist in Toledo is
> >ar >ar > not
> >ar >ar > well
> >ar >ar >ar >ar trained on work with people who are blind.  There are other
> >ar >ar > ways
> >ar >ar > to
> >ar >ar >ar >ar label items around the home without learning braille.  I
> >ar >ar > strongly
> >ar >ar >ar >ar recommend braille but if that is not an option you can
> >ar >ar > purchase
> >ar >ar > the
> >ar >ar >ar >ar Pen Friend ($139.99) or Voxcom and 100 cards ($124.99) from
> >ar >ar > Maxiaids.
> >ar >ar >ar >ar Both devices allow you to record a voice message and attach it
> >ar >ar > to
> >ar >ar >ar >ar anything you want to label.  I just checked those prices.  I
> >ar >ar > believe
> >ar >ar >ar >ar you can purchase additional labels for the Pen Friend for
> >ar >ar > $20.00
> >ar >ar > per
> >ar >ar >ar >ar pack but you cannot purchase additional cards for the Voxcom.
> >ar >ar > The
> >ar >ar >ar >ar Voxcom cards are reuseable and can hold a 10 second message.
> >ar >ar >ar >ar
> >ar >ar >ar >ar —
> >ar >ar >ar >ar Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
> >ar >ar >ar >ar Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> >ar >ar >ar >ar (513) 607-6053
> >ar >ar >ar >ar
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> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> (513) 607-6053
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