[Ohio-talk] OOD and ACVREP certification
Dawn
dlanting at bex.net
Wed May 13 18:33:57 UTC 2015
I think this is a wonderful idea opening up people's homes being trained
by other blind people and most blind people I have met are truly
wonderful people and the N F B members are the best when I first lost my
eyesight I never even met a blind person I got hooked up with Barbara
Pierce I was amazed by her story I realty was she got me in touch with
Colleen Roth and the N F B I I listened to books on tape the Brail Monitor
then I got involved with the Toledo Sight center no luck there really
no blind person teaching me I got O and M also it was all right I am
going through my third o and training now I passed the Hadley School for
the blind with all A in independent living and their O and M and really
I learned more through Hadley not sure why but it was like it was from
real blind people I was reading about the the lady from the sight center
wanted me to shake my cans to tell what was in them they brought me a T
shirt folder so I could fold a T shirt and that really made me mad I
told them to take it back that I had been folding T shirts my whole fifty
years didn't need to be trained on that show me the things I need to be
independent I am a smart person just new at being blind I need to crawl
before I can walk I was a new born when it came to being blind I have
learned a lot things from my blind friend Colleen and a few others blind
people I have met on line but these professionals not so much nice
people but not what I needed they wanted me to get special lighting put
white and black contrast together things a totally blind person didn't
need like the magnifiers I didn't need them either now I have a I Phone I
need to know how to work to get all of these wonderful aps a few sighted
people have tried to help me but they couldn't figure it out either the
way a blind person does it so I am going to have blind person help me out
with it nothing against the sighted people I love them all but when it
comes to being blind you need an expert because blind people rule you
got to be pretty amazing to be blind
>From dawn in Toledo
-----Original Message-----
From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marianne
Denning via Ohio-talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 1:52 PM
To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
Cc: Marianne Denning
Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] OOD and ACVREP certification
Dave, I like your idea. Could we write a grant for something like this so
people who do this could at least get paid a small amount of money? I think
this has some real potential here. I do believe there is a difference
between knowing a skill and teaching a skill.
I am going to give a little history lesson here. Rehabilitation Teachers
had another name in the past and were all blind. In fact, in Kansas in the
1980's you had to be blind to have the job. Then, colleges started getting
in on the education and it opened up to anyone. Over time, the number of
blind rehabilitation teachers as a percentage of rehabilitation teachers has
declined. Today the name has changed from rehabilitation teacher to
certified vision rehabilitation therapist and most agencies require the
certification in order to be hired. Now occupational therapist are also
providing this training and physical therapists are working as O&M
instructors. By the way, these medical professionals earn more money than
their ACVREP certified peers.
On 5/13/15, Dave Cohen via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I have thought at times how blind people within the state are the
> perfect resource to provide training in their own homes and communities.
>
> A network of Federationists throughout the state who are willing to
> open up their homes/lives for X amount of time and who are capable of
> providing an exposure to blindness skills the likes of which one would
> be exposed to at a NFB training center is what I imagine.
>
> A buddy program for adults.
>
> I am biased. I think that one weekend with an independently-living
> blind person or a family who knows the true benefit of blindness
> skills has something very beneficial to share even if the training
> (cane, Braille etc.) is minimal at first.
>
> A network of inner-state Federationists from Ohio could be coordinated
> to host such a person wanting to learn the alternative techniques.
> Social media can be used to keep everyone involved/informed.
>
> Such a person hosting would be acting as home management, Braille,
> travel and technology teacher. Maybe one only does travel. Maybe one
> does Braille and home management and maybe someone else has the skill
> to teach another something else? Make the training center environment
> within the homes of the membership.
>
> ---- Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> ACVREP stands for Association for Certification of Vision
>> Rehabilitation and Education Professionals. If you want to be
>> certified in rehabilitation teaching, low vision therapy or O&M they
>> are the certifying agency. Yes, I know NFB also has an O&M
>> certification. I doubt the state would pay for someone with that
>> certification to provide training to consumers, but I don't know that
>> for sure. My concern is that the state allows anyone with one of
>> those
>> 3 certifications provide all 3 services. Why is an O&M instructor
>> qualified to be a rehabilitation teacher just because they have an
>> O&M certification? A rehabilitation teacher would be the person who
>> would provide braille instruction. They have to complete braille
>> courses as part of their college program.
>>
>> On 5/13/15, barbara.pierce9366--- via Ohio-talk
>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> > What exactly is ACVREP certification?
>> >
>> > Barbara
>> > Barbara Pierce
>> > President Emerita
>> > National Federation of the Blind of Ohio
>> > Barbara.pierce9366 at gmail.com
>> > 440-774-8077
>> > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not
>> > the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we
>> > raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations
>> > create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live
>> > the life you zwant; blindness is not what holds you back.
>> >
>> >> On May 13, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk
>> >> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I am going to try to explain this because it is a concern for me.
>> >> OOD requires anyone providing O&M or rehabilitation teaching
>> >> services to blind people to have ACVREP certification. I have
>> >> known that for a few years. I recently learned thatcertified O&M
>> >> trainers can provide rehabilitation teaching services. All OOD
>> >> cares about is the ACVREP certification and not the area of
>> >> certification. I think most people who have O&M certification
>> >> would say they don't feel qualified to evaluate braille,
>> >> lifeskills and similar needs. I would say the same goes for
>> >> rehabilitation teachers. Does anyone else have a similar concern?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>> >> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>> >> (513) 607-6053
>> >>
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>> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>> (513) 607-6053
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Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053
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