[Ohio-talk] OOD and ACVREP certification
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Wed May 13 22:05:14 UTC 2015
Thank you for replying to this suggestion. Maybe a good place to begin would be to create a list of Federation members who are in a position to contribute to such a plan and what is available from each and their living arrangements/environment.
I imagine that a host person/family could share a meal(s) as if a friend was visiting from out of town for a weekend. Or, the trainee arriving could go to the grocery training style and be directly involved in this necessity. It's a sort of vacation so bring spending money.
A white cane and the willingness to try is a good down payment I believe.
---- Dawn via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I think this is a wonderful idea opening up people's homes being trained
> by other blind people and most blind people I have met are truly
> wonderful people and the N F B members are the best when I first lost my
> eyesight I never even met a blind person I got hooked up with Barbara
> Pierce I was amazed by her story I realty was she got me in touch with
> Colleen Roth and the N F B I I listened to books on tape the Brail Monitor
> then I got involved with the Toledo Sight center no luck there really
> no blind person teaching me I got O and M also it was all right I am
> going through my third o and training now I passed the Hadley School for
> the blind with all A in independent living and their O and M and really
> I learned more through Hadley not sure why but it was like it was from
> real blind people I was reading about the the lady from the sight center
> wanted me to shake my cans to tell what was in them they brought me a T
> shirt folder so I could fold a T shirt and that really made me mad I
> told them to take it back that I had been folding T shirts my whole fifty
> years didn't need to be trained on that show me the things I need to be
> independent I am a smart person just new at being blind I need to crawl
> before I can walk I was a new born when it came to being blind I have
> learned a lot things from my blind friend Colleen and a few others blind
> people I have met on line but these professionals not so much nice
> people but not what I needed they wanted me to get special lighting put
> white and black contrast together things a totally blind person didn't
> need like the magnifiers I didn't need them either now I have a I Phone I
> need to know how to work to get all of these wonderful aps a few sighted
> people have tried to help me but they couldn't figure it out either the
> way a blind person does it so I am going to have blind person help me out
> with it nothing against the sighted people I love them all but when it
> comes to being blind you need an expert because blind people rule you
> got to be pretty amazing to be blind
> From dawn in Toledo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marianne
> Denning via Ohio-talk
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 1:52 PM
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> Cc: Marianne Denning
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] OOD and ACVREP certification
>
> Dave, I like your idea. Could we write a grant for something like this so
> people who do this could at least get paid a small amount of money? I think
> this has some real potential here. I do believe there is a difference
> between knowing a skill and teaching a skill.
>
> I am going to give a little history lesson here. Rehabilitation Teachers
> had another name in the past and were all blind. In fact, in Kansas in the
> 1980's you had to be blind to have the job. Then, colleges started getting
> in on the education and it opened up to anyone. Over time, the number of
> blind rehabilitation teachers as a percentage of rehabilitation teachers has
> declined. Today the name has changed from rehabilitation teacher to
> certified vision rehabilitation therapist and most agencies require the
> certification in order to be hired. Now occupational therapist are also
> providing this training and physical therapists are working as O&M
> instructors. By the way, these medical professionals earn more money than
> their ACVREP certified peers.
>
> On 5/13/15, Dave Cohen via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > I have thought at times how blind people within the state are the
> > perfect resource to provide training in their own homes and communities.
> >
> > A network of Federationists throughout the state who are willing to
> > open up their homes/lives for X amount of time and who are capable of
> > providing an exposure to blindness skills the likes of which one would
> > be exposed to at a NFB training center is what I imagine.
> >
> > A buddy program for adults.
> >
> > I am biased. I think that one weekend with an independently-living
> > blind person or a family who knows the true benefit of blindness
> > skills has something very beneficial to share even if the training
> > (cane, Braille etc.) is minimal at first.
> >
> > A network of inner-state Federationists from Ohio could be coordinated
> > to host such a person wanting to learn the alternative techniques.
> > Social media can be used to keep everyone involved/informed.
> >
> > Such a person hosting would be acting as home management, Braille,
> > travel and technology teacher. Maybe one only does travel. Maybe one
> > does Braille and home management and maybe someone else has the skill
> > to teach another something else? Make the training center environment
> > within the homes of the membership.
> >
> > ---- Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >> ACVREP stands for Association for Certification of Vision
> >> Rehabilitation and Education Professionals. If you want to be
> >> certified in rehabilitation teaching, low vision therapy or O&M they
> >> are the certifying agency. Yes, I know NFB also has an O&M
> >> certification. I doubt the state would pay for someone with that
> >> certification to provide training to consumers, but I don't know that
> >> for sure. My concern is that the state allows anyone with one of
> >> those
> >> 3 certifications provide all 3 services. Why is an O&M instructor
> >> qualified to be a rehabilitation teacher just because they have an
> >> O&M certification? A rehabilitation teacher would be the person who
> >> would provide braille instruction. They have to complete braille
> >> courses as part of their college program.
> >>
> >> On 5/13/15, barbara.pierce9366--- via Ohio-talk
> >> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > What exactly is ACVREP certification?
> >> >
> >> > Barbara
> >> > Barbara Pierce
> >> > President Emerita
> >> > National Federation of the Blind of Ohio
> >> > Barbara.pierce9366 at gmail.com
> >> > 440-774-8077
> >> > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not
> >> > the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we
> >> > raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations
> >> > create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live
> >> > the life you zwant; blindness is not what holds you back.
> >> >
> >> >> On May 13, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk
> >> >> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I am going to try to explain this because it is a concern for me.
> >> >> OOD requires anyone providing O&M or rehabilitation teaching
> >> >> services to blind people to have ACVREP certification. I have
> >> >> known that for a few years. I recently learned thatcertified O&M
> >> >> trainers can provide rehabilitation teaching services. All OOD
> >> >> cares about is the ACVREP certification and not the area of
> >> >> certification. I think most people who have O&M certification
> >> >> would say they don't feel qualified to evaluate braille,
> >> >> lifeskills and similar needs. I would say the same goes for
> >> >> rehabilitation teachers. Does anyone else have a similar concern?
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
> >> >> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> >> >> (513) 607-6053
> >> >>
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