[Ohio-talk] {Spam?} RE: Ohio-talk Digest, Vol 93, Issue 24
Jeanne Gallagher
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Way to go, Kyle. Keep up the good work.
Jeanne
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3. Re: story on meas a substitute teacher (purplecakers)
4. Re: story on meas a substitute teacher (Kyle Conley)
5. Re: membership numbers? (details inside) (purplecakers)
6. Re: some thoughts and humor (Sheri Albers)
7. Re: story on meas a substitute teacher (Kaiti Shelton)
8. HAPPY THANKSGIVING (Smith, JW)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 08:30:47 -0500
From: "barbara.pierce9366 at gmail.com" <barbara.pierce9366 at gmail.com>
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That is a great series of talking points. I wonder if it would work to use
them in a discussion of blindness wih he public.
Barbara
Barbara Pierce
President Emerita
National Federation of the Blind of Ohio Barbara.pierce9366 at gmail.com
440-774-8077
The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the
expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles
between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you zwant;
blindness is not what holds you back.
> On Nov 22, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk
<ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> I am back home after attending the NFB state convention. I have to
> say this was one of the most productive, active and interesting state
> conventions I have attended. We do have our work cut out for us and I
> am anxious to get started. I also read this information and thought I
> would post it here. For those who were at the convention, look at
> number 5.
>
> 17 Easy Ways To Make A Blind Person?s Day
>
> 1. When introducing yourself, use loud, exaggerated speech. Since
> we?re blind, it?s safe to assume we?re a little dim, too.
> 2. Don?t speak directly to us. It?s always best to talk over our heads
> like we?re not there at all, especially if you are offering a service.
> Example:
> ?What would she like to order?? Be sure to ignore our attempts to
> answer for ourselves.
> 3. Grab or otherwise manipulate our bodies whenever and wherever you
> deem necessary. For example, if you intuitively perceive that we?re
> going the wrong way (even if you haven?t asked where that is) just
> snatch the nearest limb and lead on, Macduff!
> 4. If you aren?t in a position to grab us, you can always shout
> instructions in the hope that we?ll know what you?re talking about. If
> we look baffled, just keep repeating the instructions in an
> increasingly frantic tone.
> We?ll clue in eventually.
> 5. Remind us often how grateful we should be that people are willing
> to provide accommodations for us. While it?s unlikely that we will
> ever, ever forget this for more than five minutes at a time, it?s a
> good idea to slam the thought home when we?re not expecting it. It
> builds character.
> 6. Stage loud conversations about us while we?re in the room, because
> we won?t hear. If we hear, it?s okay, because we won?t understand. If
> we understand, it?s okay, because we won?t care.
> 7. Keep all conversation firmly focused on blindness. If we try to
> interject by discussing our education or interests, just redirect us.
> We get carried
> away trying to be all normal, so it?s helpful to keep us on track!
> 8. Be sure to describe all the other blind people you?ve ever met, in
> extravagant detail. We couldn?t be more fascinated by that blind guy
> who skied, and that other blind guy who went to school with you, and
> that blind girl you met on the train once?the one with the cute puppy?
> 9. Make a habit of asking us why we?re ?here?. If we?re on the bus,
> ask us why we?re out alone. If we?re at work, ask us how we got the
> job. If we?re in class, ask us why we?re in university. If we seem
> offended, ignore us:
> deep down inside, we really enjoy presumptuous interrogation!
> 10. Dispense advice about how we should live our lives; the less you
> know us, the more valuable your feedback will be. If you need a good
> starting point, you can begin by analyzing our mobility tool of choice
> (cane or dog) and emphatically demanding that we switch. We love that.
> 11. Involve yourself in our love lives, specifying exactly the type of
> person we should date and why. If you think we should date a sighted
> person because they?ll be able to take care of us, we?ll want to hear
> all about it.
> If you think we should date a blind person because we should ?stick to
> our own kind?
> we will be all ears!
> 12. Give us things?money, coupons, whatever?because you pity us and
> want to make our day better. Don?t be phased by any apparent
> expressions of confusion.
> (?Oh, that?s just my gratitude face!?) 13. Stop us on the street and
> thank whomever we?re with for helping/taking care of/being so kind to
> us. It?s not as though we have real friends who genuinely enjoy our
> company. No: if we?re out with a sighted person, they are fulfilling a
> purely charitable role. They will appreciate your praise, and we will
> feel extra extra grateful!
> 14. Place your hands on us in any public place and pray. If we gently
> explain that we don?t want to be prayed for, rest assured that it?s
> just the secular cynicism doing the talking. When our sight is
> miraculously restored, you?ll be the first to know.
> 15. Make as many potentially dangerous practical jokes as you can
> think of. A few good ideas include warning us of imaginary obstacles
> (?Watch out for that tree-just kidding!?), concealing our possessions,
> and encouraging us to ?find? you while you run gleefully around us in
> circles. These were a staple of primary school, and I treasure many
> pleasant memories from that era. Do me a favour, and bring back the
> nostalgia!
> 16. Refer to us as ?that blind person? even after you know our names.
> Blindness is so integral to our identities that our names are really
> just decorative, so there?s no need to remember or use them. If we
> fail to answer to ?Hey, blind girl/guy!? just keep trying. We?ll learn
> to love it.
> 17. Assume that our default status is ?Help!? If we reassure you that
> we?re okay, thanks, don?t fall for it. Insisting upon rescuing us
> every time we cross paths places us into a position of dependence,
> which is exactly where we belong.
>
>
>
> --
> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> (513) 607-6053
>
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 08:41:15 -0500
From: "Kyle Conley" <violinistvocalist at hotmail.com>
To: <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [Ohio-talk] story on meas a substitute teacher
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I hope you enjoy. The story starts a bit down the page.
http://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/blind-substitute-teacher-connecting-with-ki
ds-in-monroe
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:25:52 -0500
From: purplecakers <purplecakers at yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] story on meas a substitute teacher
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Kyle that was a very interesting read. Congrats on being persistent ?and
real about it all. The only problem I had with the article is that the
originator wants you to sign up to be able to read it. I was able to barely
see it through the gray panel that hides it from people who don't sign up.
Would jaws read through that gray? ?Is there another way to share it if it
is not accessible to jaws? I just think others should have the opportunity
to read this!?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
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Date: 11/23/2015 8:41 AM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: [Ohio-talk] story on meas a substitute teacher
I hope you enjoy. The story starts a bit down the page.
http://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/blind-substitute-teacher-connecting-with-ki
ds-in-monroe
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:29:06 -0500
From: Kyle Conley <violinistvocalist at hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] story on meas a substitute teacher
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If you read on your computer, it should be fine. Plus, blindfolds can read
it with their iPhones as well.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 23, 2015, at 11:27 AM, purplecakers via Ohio-talk
<ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Kyle that was a very interesting read. Congrats on being persistent and
real about it all. The only problem I had with the article is that the
originator wants you to sign up to be able to read it. I was able to barely
see it through the gray panel that hides it from people who don't sign up.
Would jaws read through that gray? Is there another way to share it if it
is not accessible to jaws? I just think others should have the opportunity
to read this!
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Kyle Conley via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: 11/23/2015 8:41 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Kyle Conley <violinistvocalist at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] story on meas a substitute teacher
>
> I hope you enjoy. The story starts a bit down the page.
>
> http://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/blind-substitute-teacher-connecting-w
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:33:39 -0500
From: purplecakers <purplecakers at yahoo.com>
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Abby this sounds like a very interesting opportunity especially if you were
to receive an A for your work. It is definitely something the fundraising
committee can work with you on for the information you require ?to complete
the project.?Carol
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Date: 11/23/2015 6:14 AM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] membership numbers? (details inside)
Abby I want to talk to you and find out just how this would work Thanks for
reaching out Richard
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Bolling via Ohio-talk
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 9:56 PM
To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
Cc: Abby Bolling
Subject: [Ohio-talk] membership numbers? (details inside)
Ok, please keep in mind the following:
1, I am not offering up my own personal resources with this question 2, I am
doing this for a class project, so there is no guarantee that it will be
passed.
3, obviously we would have to have some guidelines for the individuals who
chose to take advantage of this grant.
I am putting together a grant for each active member of NFB of Ohio, which
would allow said members to attend National Convention, free of charge. The
cost estimate is based on if you booked your plane ticket today and
registered when you arrived at the hotel. Also if everyone had a roommate.
The total I came up with, including Air fare, some money for individuals to
spend on transportation from airport to hotel and back, $50 to spend on
membership fees, and $150 to spend on food. When I did the math, the total
is $922.20.
My question to all of you, is, who is going to convention!
Again, my goal is to get everyone there!
Or, if anyone has an idea of how many members we have in NFB Ohio, I could
write the grant for that much money and then if we didn't use all of the
money, we could either return it to the organization or use it on something
else like Washington seminar?
If this grant does pass, one, I will be very happy that I was able to do
something for the Federation! And, I'll get an automatic A in the class,
which will be amazing!
So I want to know what you guys think of this idea, and whoever knows the
membership numbers, please please please let me know ASAP. I will put my
phone number at the bottom of this email, so feel free to text me with
membership information. Be sure to tell me who you are in the text message
please?
Thank you all!
Abby Bolling
Phone: 513-512-3456
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:50:46 -0500
From: "Sheri Albers" <salbers1 at twc.com>
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Marianne,
This is priceless! I'll bet President Riccobono could use this in his
banquet speech at the next national convention! Just say'in!
Sheri Albers
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From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marianne
Denning via Ohio-talk
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 8:59 PM
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Subject: [Ohio-talk] some thoughts and humor
I am back home after attending the NFB state convention. I have to say this
was one of the most productive, active and interesting state conventions I
have attended. We do have our work cut out for us and I am anxious to get
started. I also read this information and thought I would post it here.
For those who were at the convention, look at number 5.
17 Easy Ways To Make A Blind Person?s Day
1. When introducing yourself, use loud, exaggerated speech. Since we?re
blind, it?s safe to assume we?re a little dim, too.
2. Don?t speak directly to us. It?s always best to talk over our heads like
we?re not there at all, especially if you are offering a service.
Example:
?What would she like to order?? Be sure to ignore our attempts to answer for
ourselves.
3. Grab or otherwise manipulate our bodies whenever and wherever you deem
necessary. For example, if you intuitively perceive that we?re going the
wrong way (even if you haven?t asked where that is) just snatch the nearest
limb and lead on, Macduff!
4. If you aren?t in a position to grab us, you can always shout instructions
in the hope that we?ll know what you?re talking about. If we look baffled,
just keep repeating the instructions in an increasingly frantic tone.
We?ll clue in eventually.
5. Remind us often how grateful we should be that people are willing to
provide accommodations for us. While it?s unlikely that we will ever, ever
forget this for more than five minutes at a time, it?s a good idea to slam
the thought home when we?re not expecting it. It builds character.
6. Stage loud conversations about us while we?re in the room, because we
won?t hear. If we hear, it?s okay, because we won?t understand. If we
understand, it?s okay, because we won?t care.
7. Keep all conversation firmly focused on blindness. If we try to interject
by discussing our education or interests, just redirect us.
We get carried
away trying to be all normal, so it?s helpful to keep us on track!
8. Be sure to describe all the other blind people you?ve ever met, in
extravagant detail. We couldn?t be more fascinated by that blind guy who
skied, and that other blind guy who went to school with you, and that blind
girl you met on the train once?the one with the cute puppy? 9. Make a habit
of asking us why we?re ?here?. If we?re on the bus, ask us why we?re out
alone. If we?re at work, ask us how we got the job. If we?re in class, ask
us why we?re in university. If we seem offended, ignore us:
deep down inside, we really enjoy presumptuous interrogation!
10. Dispense advice about how we should live our lives; the less you know
us, the more valuable your feedback will be. If you need a good starting
point, you can begin by analyzing our mobility tool of choice (cane or dog)
and emphatically demanding that we switch. We love that.
11. Involve yourself in our love lives, specifying exactly the type of
person we should date and why. If you think we should date a sighted person
because they?ll be able to take care of us, we?ll want to hear all about it.
If you think we should date a blind person because we should ?stick to our
own kind?
we will be all ears!
12. Give us things?money, coupons, whatever?because you pity us and want to
make our day better. Don?t be phased by any apparent expressions of
confusion.
(?Oh, that?s just my gratitude face!?)
13. Stop us on the street and thank whomever we?re with for helping/taking
care of/being so kind to us. It?s not as though we have real friends who
genuinely enjoy our company. No: if we?re out with a sighted person, they
are fulfilling a purely charitable role. They will appreciate your praise,
and we will feel extra extra grateful!
14. Place your hands on us in any public place and pray. If we gently
explain that we don?t want to be prayed for, rest assured that it?s just the
secular cynicism doing the talking. When our sight is miraculously restored,
you?ll be the first to know.
15. Make as many potentially dangerous practical jokes as you can think of.
A few good ideas include warning us of imaginary obstacles (?Watch out for
that tree-just kidding!?), concealing our possessions, and encouraging us to
?find? you while you run gleefully around us in circles. These were a staple
of primary school, and I treasure many pleasant memories from that era. Do
me a favour, and bring back the nostalgia!
16. Refer to us as ?that blind person? even after you know our names.
Blindness is so integral to our identities that our names are really just
decorative, so there?s no need to remember or use them. If we fail to answer
to ?Hey, blind girl/guy!? just keep trying. We?ll learn to love it.
17. Assume that our default status is ?Help!? If we reassure you that we?re
okay, thanks, don?t fall for it. Insisting upon rescuing us every time we
cross paths places us into a position of dependence, which is exactly where
we belong.
--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:59:55 -0500
From: Kaiti Shelton <kaiti.shelton at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] story on meas a substitute teacher
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I could not access it with my IPhone and there does not appear to be a close
or no thanks button on the sign up pop up on the web site.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 23, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Kyle Conley via Ohio-talk
<ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> If you read on your computer, it should be fine. Plus, blindfolds can read
it with their iPhones as well.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 11:27 AM, purplecakers via Ohio-talk
<ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Kyle that was a very interesting read. Congrats on being persistent and
real about it all. The only problem I had with the article is that the
originator wants you to sign up to be able to read it. I was able to barely
see it through the gray panel that hides it from people who don't sign up.
Would jaws read through that gray? Is there another way to share it if it
is not accessible to jaws? I just think others should have the opportunity
to read this!
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Kyle Conley via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: 11/23/2015 8:41 AM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Kyle Conley <violinistvocalist at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [Ohio-talk] story on meas a substitute teacher
>>
>> I hope you enjoy. The story starts a bit down the page.
>>
>> http://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/blind-substitute-teacher-connecting-
>> with-kids-in-monroe _______________________________________________
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 17:19:58 +0000
From: "Smith, JW" <smithj at ohio.edu>
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Subject: [Ohio-talk] HAPPY THANKSGIVING
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Dear Friends, Family and Colleagues:
Many of you know that Thanksgiving is my favorite Holiday so for your
pleasure and given all that is and has happened in our world especially in
France and surrounding area's, I am attaching my Version of what I believe
should be our National Anthem!
Please enjoy it and I hope that you will hear and feel the pride, gratitude
and joy that I tried to convey and will pass it on to others as well.
Have a great Thanksgiving week and no matter how bad things may seem to be
in your life, remember, there is probably someone that is not as fortunate
as you are!
Keep smiling and do all that you can to make other smile and not just this
week ok?
Jw
Dr. JW Smith
Associate Professor
School of Communication Studies
Schoonover Center, Rm. 427
Athens, OH 45701
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*Ask me about the newly revised Ohio Fellows Program or visit
http://ww.ohio.edu/univcollege/ohiofellows.cfm
"Regarding the past, change what you can, and can what you can't"
"Our minds are like parachutes. They work best when they are open."
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