[Ohio-talk] [External] Re: voting

Tue Aug 9 17:30:17 UTC 2016

I am reaching out to them to get a speaker.
We will also get the answer to the complaint question. R

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From: Ohio-Talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of barbara.pierce9366--- via Ohio-Talk
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Subject: [External] Re: [Ohio-talk] voting

aThis is an interesting idea, but here is what Lou Anne Blake responded to me yesterday:

Hi Barbara,

Thanks so much for passing this along to me. Unfortunately, I don’t think things will improve much until blind voters start filing complains with their Secretary of State’s office when they are not able to vote privately and independently for any reason. Complaints filed with a state’s Secretary of State’s office must be reported to the US Department of Justice, so when a blind voter files a complaint because she was not able to vote privately and independently she usually gets a response! We are working to raise the awareness about the filing of complaints among our members.

Best regards,

Lou Ann

I don’t know at the moment how we file complaints with the secretary of state, but I think we should find out. Maybe we should look into getting a representative from that office to present at the convention and then begin by telling him or her our stories of problems. Richard’s experience is outrageous. Hay, we are already in the mode of suing the secretary of state.

Barbara Pierce
President Emerita
National Federation of the Blind of Ohio Barbara.pierce9366 at gmail.com
440-774-8077
The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back.

> On Aug 8, 2016, at 8:57 PM, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-Talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I think all of us probably have a story about how voting went real wrong.
> I would like to suggest that we find a volunteer that serve as the 
> Ohio Voters Experience liazon, at O state convention.
> The convention is right after general election and the experiences 
> will be fresh. This individual can gather the information to send to 
> nfb national and the board of elections. Possibility with a letter of 
> recommended improvements.
> What do you folks think?  Cheryl
> 
> On 8/8/16, Delcenia via Ohio-Talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I share your frustration.
>> 
>> First, I have to give Cuyahoga County Board of Election a little credit.
>> They have tried and are doing better. Once I was involved with a 
>> group that visit the Board of Election to have a demonstration on the 
>> machine and to express our concerns as a disable person. It was a 
>> group of us that consist of myself a visually impaired and hearing 
>> impaired person, another legally blind person, a person in a wheel 
>> chair, and a person with other multiple disability that he had 
>> difficulty voting using his hands. It was quite an interesting day 
>> for all of us. The funny thing that happen that day was the machine 
>> did not work properly while we were there so they had an opportunity 
>> to see some of what we were referring to. It was an eye opener for 
>> those workers that were there.
>> 
>> I have experienced a time when I went to vote and a person from each 
>> party watch me vote to see if there was any problems or concerns. 
>> They had no clue until I told them on this particular day they were 
>> the problem. They stood behind me and held a conversation which was 
>> very rude and distracting. They did see what I was referring to that 
>> while I am voting my back should be to a wall not allowing anyone to 
>> stand behind me and observe me vote.
>> 
>> I also, experience a spoke person from the Board of Election talk 
>> about what they do and what is not permitted on Election Day. They 
>> talked about how the day before each poll site is supposed to be 
>> inspected. I told them obviously, this was not being done when I 
>> attempted to vote first ting in the morning when my poll site opened 
>> and of course there was a problem with the machine.
>> 
>> They say that each poll worker are trained every year. After speaking 
>> with many people that volunteer at election time. They tell me they 
>> do not attend the classes or all of the classes because they have 
>> been doing this for years.  Obviously, between the instructor of the 
>> class and watching a video something is wrong!
>> 
>> I once had a poll worker who was trying to help me and I guess she 
>> thought I was stupid and would not realize that she actually voted 
>> for me.  I reported what happened and they gave me another ballot.
>> 
>> As we know our voting issues are a continuing frustration. We need to 
>> talk to the head person. Not the person who is over community 
>> outreach and not the person that answered the phone when Richard 
>> called. We have to make sure each of us are properly trained so that 
>> when we go vote we are observing and educating them so they are 
>> prepared for  the future voters that do not know.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, each county and voting site is different and we all 
>> have our horror stories to tell.
>> 
>> Delcenia
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ohio-Talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Robert Spangler via Ohio-Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 11:00 PM
>> To: 'NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List' 
>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Robert Spangler <spangler.robert at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] voting
>> 
>> I've been a registered voter in two counties and, each time I've 
>> voted, they have had to reprogram the voting card because they forgot 
>> to enable the speech setting.  I'm not sure if they're just not 
>> trained on this or if enough emphasis is not being put on it during 
>> the training.  Either way, it's a minor annoyance.  It does cost me 
>> time, however, so it would be nice if this could be remedied.  
>> Clearly, Richard's email demonstrates their attitude toward the 
>> subject.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ohio-Talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Payne, Richard L (Synchrony Financial) via Ohio-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 2:47 PM
>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List 
>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Payne, Richard L (Synchrony Financial) <richard.payne at syf.com>
>> Subject: [Ohio-talk] voting
>> 
>> I just called the board  of  elections in my county to request a speaker.
>> The director called me back and questioned my request by saying you 
>> need us to come to your meeting  to tell your members how to put on a 
>> head set and vote?
>> I told her no but all over this state we have reports of the workers not
>> knowing how to help so I wanted to make sure our members   had hands on
>> training for themselves with the equipment.
>> Then she began to tell me about all the great training they  provide 
>> to all of the workers and how to help people with disabilities.  I 
>> told her to have them to visit our meeting. Positive 
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