[Ohio-talk] voting

Tue Aug 9 18:07:51 UTC 2016

I like that idea, invite them and file the proper complaints.
I'm also thinking that we should file the complaints formally while at
convention... stronger together!

On 8/9/16, barbara.pierce9366--- via Ohio-Talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> aThis is an interesting idea, but here is what Lou Anne Blake responded to
> me yesterday:
>
> Hi Barbara,
>
> Thanks so much for passing this along to me. Unfortunately, I don’t think
> things will improve much until blind voters start filing complains with
> their Secretary of State’s office when they are not able to vote privately
> and independently for any reason. Complaints filed with a state’s Secretary
> of State’s office must be reported to the US Department of Justice, so when
> a blind voter files a complaint because she was not able to vote privately
> and independently she usually gets a response! We are working to raise the
> awareness about the filing of complaints among our members.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Lou Ann
>
> I don’t know at the moment how we file complaints with the secretary of
> state, but I think we should find out. Maybe we should look into getting a
> representative from that office to present at the convention and then begin
> by telling him or her our stories of problems. Richard’s experience is
> outrageous. Hay, we are already in the mode of suing the secretary of state.
>
> Barbara Pierce
> President Emerita
> National Federation of the Blind of Ohio
> Barbara.pierce9366 at gmail.com
> 440-774-8077
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the
> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles
> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want;
> blindness is not what holds you back.
>
>> On Aug 8, 2016, at 8:57 PM, Cheryl Fields via Ohio-Talk
>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I think all of us probably have a story about how voting went real wrong.
>> I would like to suggest that we find a volunteer that serve as the
>> Ohio Voters Experience liazon, at O state convention.
>> The convention is right after general election and the experiences
>> will be fresh. This individual can gather the information to send to
>> nfb national and the board of elections. Possibility with a letter of
>> recommended improvements.
>> What do you folks think?  Cheryl
>>
>> On 8/8/16, Delcenia via Ohio-Talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I share your frustration.
>>>
>>> First, I have to give Cuyahoga County Board of Election a little credit.
>>> They have tried and are doing better. Once I was involved with a group
>>> that
>>> visit the Board of Election to have a demonstration on the machine and to
>>> express our concerns as a disable person. It was a group of us that
>>> consist
>>> of myself a visually impaired and hearing impaired person, another
>>> legally
>>> blind person, a person in a wheel chair, and a person with other multiple
>>> disability that he had difficulty voting using his hands. It was quite an
>>> interesting day for all of us. The funny thing that happen that day was
>>> the
>>> machine did not work properly while we were there so they had an
>>> opportunity
>>> to see some of what we were referring to. It was an eye opener for those
>>> workers that were there.
>>>
>>> I have experienced a time when I went to vote and a person from each
>>> party
>>> watch me vote to see if there was any problems or concerns. They had no
>>> clue
>>> until I told them on this particular day they were the problem. They
>>> stood
>>> behind me and held a conversation which was very rude and distracting.
>>> They
>>> did see what I was referring to that while I am voting my back should be
>>> to
>>> a wall not allowing anyone to stand behind me and observe me vote.
>>>
>>> I also, experience a spoke person from the Board of Election talk about
>>> what
>>> they do and what is not permitted on Election Day. They talked about how
>>> the
>>> day before each poll site is supposed to be inspected. I told them
>>> obviously, this was not being done when I attempted to vote first ting in
>>> the morning when my poll site opened and of course there was a problem
>>> with
>>> the machine.
>>>
>>> They say that each poll worker are trained every year. After speaking
>>> with
>>> many people that volunteer at election time. They tell me they do not
>>> attend
>>> the classes or all of the classes because they have been doing this for
>>> years.  Obviously, between the instructor of the class and watching a
>>> video
>>> something is wrong!
>>>
>>> I once had a poll worker who was trying to help me and I guess she
>>> thought
>>> I
>>> was stupid and would not realize that she actually voted for me.  I
>>> reported
>>> what happened and they gave me another ballot.
>>>
>>> As we know our voting issues are a continuing frustration. We need to
>>> talk
>>> to the head person. Not the person who is over community outreach and not
>>> the person that answered the phone when Richard called. We have to make
>>> sure
>>> each of us are properly trained so that when we go vote we are observing
>>> and
>>> educating them so they are prepared for  the future voters that do not
>>> know.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, each county and voting site is different and we all have
>>> our
>>> horror stories to tell.
>>>
>>> Delcenia
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ohio-Talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert
>>> Spangler via Ohio-Talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 11:00 PM
>>> To: 'NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List' <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Robert Spangler <spangler.robert at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] voting
>>>
>>> I've been a registered voter in two counties and, each time I've voted,
>>> they
>>> have had to reprogram the voting card because they forgot to enable the
>>> speech setting.  I'm not sure if they're just not trained on this or if
>>> enough emphasis is not being put on it during the training.  Either way,
>>> it's a minor annoyance.  It does cost me time, however, so it would be
>>> nice
>>> if this could be remedied.  Clearly, Richard's email demonstrates their
>>> attitude toward the subject.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ohio-Talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Payne,
>>> Richard L (Synchrony Financial) via Ohio-Talk
>>> Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 2:47 PM
>>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Payne, Richard L (Synchrony Financial) <richard.payne at syf.com>
>>> Subject: [Ohio-talk] voting
>>>
>>> I just called the board  of  elections in my county to request a speaker.
>>> The director called me back and questioned my request by saying you need
>>> us
>>> to come to your meeting  to tell your members how to put on a head set
>>> and
>>> vote?
>>> I told her no but all over this state we have reports of the workers not
>>> knowing how to help so I wanted to make sure our members   had hands on
>>> training for themselves with the equipment.
>>> Then she began to tell me about all the great training they  provide to
>>> all
>>> of the workers and how to help people with disabilities.  I told her to
>>> have
>>> them to visit our meeting. Positive
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