[Ohio-Talk] Ohio-Talk Digest, Vol 141, Issue 4
Annette
annettelutz at att.net
Mon Nov 4 14:27:34 UTC 2019
Hi Owen,
Deanna Lewis, the president of our Guide Dog division, bought the painting of the puppy.
Annette
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 4, 2019, at 7:11 AM, Owen McCafferty via Ohio-Talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> I had a great time at the election Nd want to thank all of Ohio NFB Chapter members to be so supportive of my artwork!! I sold 2 paintings, and I was glad the other two paintings that I donated were auctioned off! I met the woman who won “Waves” but who won the “Guide Puppy”? Annette, if you read this I was wondering if you could help me out on that one. I did have a great time and Richard thank you for the certificate on volunteering that meant a lot. Now, my only question after the state convention where do I go from here!! Lol Yes, I can build the federation but I think I need to build myself up with confidence and decide what’s next for me in the NFB. If that makes any sense!! Lol
> Owen
>
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> 1. Announcement that I found when I got home from convention.
> (Barbara Pierce)
> 2. Re: Looking to contact (lucas.cassi1 at gmail.com)
> 3. Convention thoughts and thanks (Annette Lutz)
> 4. Re: Looking to contact (Asia Quinones-Evans)
> 5. Thank You! (lucas.cassi1 at gmail.com)
> 6. Recording of the OAPUB Play: "The Thin Man" from State
> Convention (info at onhconsulting.com)
> 7. Re: Convention thoughts and thanks (Robert Spangler)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 15:04:05 -0500
> From: Barbara Pierce <barbara.pierce9366 at gmail.com>
> To: Richard Payne via Ohio-Talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Ohio-Talk] Announcement that I found when I got home from
> convention.
> Message-ID: <CF4E8DCC-6CEE-4FB0-B037-29D3B7BD1A08 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> From: Mary Nelle McLennan via BANA-Announce <bana-announce at brailleauthority.org <mailto:bana-announce at brailleauthority.org>>
> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 09:00:51 -0400
> Subject: [BANA-Announce] BANA to Meet in Cincinnati, OH, November 7-9, 2019
> To: BANA-Announce <bana-announce at brailleauthority.org <mailto:bana-announce at brailleauthority.org>>
>
>
>
> Press Release <>
> October 2019
> For Immediate Release
> Contact: Jennifer Dunnam, Chair
> Braille Authority of North America
> 410.659.9314 Ex. 2427
>
> BANA to Meet in Cincinnati, Ohio, November 7?9, 2019
>
> The Braille Authority of North America (BANA), which convenes in
> person semiannually, will hold its 2019 fall meeting November 7?9 in
> Cincinnati, Ohio. All meetings will be at the Hilton Cincinnati
> Netherland Plaza, 35 West Fifth Street, Cincinnati, OH 45202. This
> meeting will be hosted by Clovernook Center for the Blind and Visually
> Impaired, which is a BANA member organization.
>
> Items on the Board?s agenda will include a review of formal reports
> from BANA's technical committees such as Braille Formats, Nemeth, and
> Tactile Graphics, as well as its general committees and task forces,
> such as the BANA General Committee on UEB and the Publications
> Committee. BANA will take action on recommendations when appropriate.
>
> Interested parties are invited to observe the BANA Board meetings. If
> you are interested in observing the BANA meeting, please contact BANA
> Chair Jennifer Dunnam at 410.659.9314 Ex. 2427 or by email at
> chair at brailleauthority.org <mailto:chair at brailleauthority.org> <mailto:chair at brailleauthority.org <mailto:chair at brailleauthority.org>>.
>
> The mission of the Braille Authority of North America is to assure
> literacy for tactile readers through the standardization of braille
> and/or tactile graphics.
>
> You can follow the work of BANA by signing up for BANA-Announce, a
> one-way email list that disseminates news and information. To join
> this list, send a blank email message to
> bana-announce-subscribe at brailleauthority.org <mailto:bana-announce-subscribe at brailleauthority.org>
> <mailto:bana-announce-subscribe at brailleauthority.org <mailto:bana-announce-subscribe at brailleauthority.org>> and follow the
> directions in the confirmation email that will be sent in response.
> You can also follow BANA on Facebook and Twitter!
> Barbara Pierce, President Emerita
> National Federation of the Blind of Ohio
> Barbara.pierce9366 at gmail.com
> 440-774-8077
>
>
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise expectations for blind people because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and their dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 18:30:19 -0500
> From: lucas.cassi1 at gmail.com
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-Talk] Looking to contact
> Message-ID: <7451839D-7A94-4B1A-9147-A576AB7A53E2 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hi Asia,
>
> I hope that you?re doing well. It was nice to meet you. I hope you enjoy your convention. If you let me know where you would like for me to send the Victor reader I?ll get it to you. Thanks. Kindly,
> Lucas Kyle Cassi,
> National Federation of the Blind
> 614-315-6607
> Lucas.cassi1 at gmail.com
>
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want, blindness is not what holds you back.
>
>
>> On Nov 2, 2019, at 11:36 PM, Asia Quinones-Evans via Ohio-Talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?Hi. I spoke to Lucas Casey tonight and I would like to get in contact with
>> you. If you could email me that would be great.
>> _______________________________________________
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 18:42:21 -0500
> From: "Annette Lutz" <annettelutz at att.net>
> To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List"
> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Ohio-Talk] Convention thoughts and thanks
> Message-ID: <004301d592a0$56ffb940$04ff2bc0$@att.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hello NFB of Ohio,
>
>
>
> I didn't know that it was possible to be so energized, and yet so exhausted
> at the same time, but that is exactly how I am feeling now after our 73rd
> NFB of Ohio Convention. It was a great weekend, and I am looking forward to
> the upcoming year to continue the work of the Federation.
>
>
>
> I did want to take the time to thank a few people who helped me and my
> chapter as the host chapter make everything that we did possible.
>
>
>
> First of all, I would be remiss if I didn't thank our President, Richard
> Payne and our Vice President Sheri Albers and the members of the convention
> planning committee for putting together the entire weekend. I know that
> there is a lot of details that need to be sorted out for a convention such
> as this to appear to be held smoothely and without complications, but I
> understand that behind the scenes it is always not the case, and I know that
> this is a challenge to deal with.
>
>
>
> As the host chapter, we were responsible for various aspects of the
> convention, and I want to thank the members of my chapter who helped out
> with various tasks, but especially Eric Duffy for organizing the hospitality
> room, and Ruth Boggs for assisting with everything that needed to be done to
> make everything hospitality run smoothely.
>
>
>
> I want to also thank the members of the Greater Akron chapter for manning
> the registration tables, so that our small chapter could focus on other
> tasks. I know that it is traditional for the host chapter to do this as
> well, but we are grateful that you were able and willing to pitch in and
> help with this.
>
>
>
> I want to thank Eric and Shelly Duffy for doing the pre-convention training
> for the hotel staff. They were not the original ones who were supposed to
> do this, but due to scheduling diffaculties, they agreed to step in at the
> last minute.
>
> Over the past few years now, I have been pleased to take care of the door
> prizes and auction items. This is a fun assignment that I enjoy quite a
> bit, but I couldn't pull it off on my own, so I would like to thank a few
> people for their help.
>
>
>
> For the door prizes, I would like to thank Jim Sheets for his help all
> weekend in making sure that everyone got their winnings delivered to them,
> and for always bringing me back the microphone.
>
>
>
> I would also like to thank Misty Hatcher for her help in organizing
> everything that came in, and just being my right hand girl.
>
>
>
> As for the auction, I could have not pulled it off without Eric Duffy for
> taking notes of everything that sold and to whom it went and for how much,
> and to Bret Cassy for manning the credit card app to collect payments.
>
>
>
> Lastly, and probably most importantly, I want to thank all of the chapters,
> divisions, and individuals who donated items for both the auction and the
> door prizes. We had a lot of really cool stuff this year, and I believe
> that everyone was pleased.
>
>
>
> When you take on an endeavor like trying to thank everyone for their help,
> you undoubtly forget someone that should have been mentioned, so if you
> helped me and I did not mention you, please forgive me and know that your
> assistance was still very much appreciated.
>
>
>
> Now for a couple of thoughts.
>
>
>
> Like I said, I believe that it was a great weekend, but there was a couple
> of things that caught my attention that I wanted the group to know about,
> and hope to improve on in the future.
>
>
>
> First of all, I was very disappointed that when Representative Croley spoke
> that she said that she had only received 5 written testimonies for our
> Parental Rights bill. We had over 130 people registered for convention, and
> to know that such a small number had taken the time to submit a few words in
> support of this vital legislation was disappointing.
>
>
>
> Second, I wanted to share a story with you. I didn't stay at the hotel
> overnight since I live so close, so I didn't join everybody at breakfast.
>> From what I understand, it was pretty crazy. I had one of our members (I
> didn't catch his name) come into the prize room where I was and tell me that
> he had left the breakfast because it was so crowded. He then told me that
> he had overheard one of the servers make the statement that "these people
> should have brought someone to help them." This comment has been bothering
> me all weekend for many reasons. First of all, this means that some of our
> members were probably relying a little too much on the wait staff to help
> with the buffet, instead of relying on their own skills or those of other
> Federationists to help them. But even more than that, in a roomful of
> capable and independent blind people, a sighted person still believed that
> we were incapable of helping ourselves and that we should have brought
> someone in essence to take care of us. This just tells me that, even though
> we have come a long way, the Federation still has a long way to go, and a
> lot of work to do to show people what we are truly capable of.
>
>
>
> So, enough of my negative comments.
>
>
>
> Lastly, I want to thank the NFB of Ohio for electing me to serve once again
> on our Board of Directors. I am looking forward to the next two years to
> continue to grow the Federation and do the vital work on our behalf.
>
>
>
> I pray that all of you made it home safely, and I am looking forward to
> seeing all of you at convention in 2020!
>
>
>
> Let's go build the Federation!
>
>
>
> Annette Lutz
>
> President
>
> Capital Chapter of the National Federation of the Blind of Ohio
>
> 614-288-4323
>
> annettelutz at att.net
>
>
>
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
> characteristic that defines you or your future. Everyday, we raise the
> expectations of blind people because we know that low expectations are
> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you
> want, blindness is not what holds you back.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 18:45:30 -0500
> From: Asia Quinones-Evans <asiaevans102897 at gmail.com>
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-Talk] Looking to contact
> Message-ID:
> <CAKU9TjyKTo_kz+r9pYcui99VyW95j2gWKf4SpFpE3xe89CNYBg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Thank you very much. If you could send the victor reader to: 1726 Hamilton
> Ave Lorain,Ohio 44052
> It would be greatly appreciated.I will certainly use it for the goals I
> have for next year. I left the convention early because my dad did not feel
> well. this convention has helped me want my goals even more. I want to
> start college next year majoring in Health and Fitness Management of
> Applied Sciences. I would also like to start work part time hopefully as a
> police dispatcher.
>
> On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 6:31 PM Lucas Cassi via Ohio-Talk <
> ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Asia,
>>
>> I hope that you?re doing well. It was nice to meet you. I hope you enjoy
>> your convention. If you let me know where you would like for me to send the
>> Victor reader I?ll get it to you. Thanks. Kindly,
>> Lucas Kyle Cassi,
>> National Federation of the Blind
>> 614-315-6607
>> Lucas.cassi1 at gmail.com
>>
>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the
>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles
>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want,
>> blindness is not what holds you back.
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2019, at 11:36 PM, Asia Quinones-Evans via Ohio-Talk <
>> ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Hi. I spoke to Lucas Casey tonight and I would like to get in contact
>> with
>>> you. If you could email me that would be great.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Ohio-Talk mailing list
>>> Ohio-Talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/ohio-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Ohio-Talk:
>>>
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 18:47:42 -0500
> From: lucas.cassi1 at gmail.com
> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Ohio-Talk] Thank You!
> Message-ID: <26D88BF4-25F5-4BFD-987F-31B72573D63C at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hello Ohio,
>
> I sincerely hope all of you enjoyed the convention as much as I did! I miss all of you already. It was a pleasure reuniting with old friends and bonding with new friends. I?m extremely proud to be a recipient of the 2019 National Federation of the Blind scholarship program. I respect NFB for their philosophy about blindness, and their advocacy efforts. Being a recipient means so much to me. Thank you for believing in me!!!
>
> Kindly,
> Lucas Kyle Cassi
> National Federation of the Blind
> 614-315-6607
> Lucas.cassi1 at gmail.com
>
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want, blindness is not what holds you back.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 20:29:27 -0500
> From: <info at onhconsulting.com>
> To: "'NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'"
> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "'NFB of Ohio Cincinnati Chapter List'" <cinci-nfb at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Ohio-Talk] Recording of the OAPUB Play: "The Thin Man" from
> State Convention
> Message-ID: <020e01d592af$4c68b400$e53a1c00$@onhconsulting.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hello all. I hope you all enjoyed this year's State Convention at the
> Worthington Hilton Doubletree in Columbus. Here is the link to a recording
> of the annual OAPUB Play, "The Thin Man." This is entirely my recording, so
> please don't hesitate to reach out to me if you have any problems accessing
> the link.
>
>
>
> Very Best,
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> https://tinyurl.com/yyob3svj
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 21:13:05 -0500
> From: "Robert Spangler" <spangler.robert at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'"
> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-Talk] Convention thoughts and thanks
> Message-ID: <048301d592b5$65909e10$30b1da30$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hello, I too noticed the attitude of some of the wait staff, although they
> were super helpful. When my sister and I had breakfast Saturday morning, we
> left a tip with our server and she seemed much more willing to help us. I
> observe many folks not leaving tips, and they wonder why the wait staff are
> so negative. Also, perhaps we could go through the buffet line ourselves,
> if the wait staff were advised on how to describe to us where things are on
> the buffet. I am not comfortable serving myself from a buffet, because I
> feel like I need to touch too many things that I shouldn't be touching. If
> someone was there saying things such as, "the tongs are on the left," "in
> front of you are the eggs," etc, that would probably be helpful. On the
> other hand, taking into account the different skill levels of the
> membership, this could prove to be an utter disaster. Lastly, I observed
> people asking the wait staff to help them butter their toast, full-grown
> adults. Come on now, give me a break.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ohio-Talk <ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Annette Lutz via
> Ohio-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2019 6:42 PM
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Annette Lutz <annettelutz at att.net>
> Subject: [Ohio-Talk] Convention thoughts and thanks
>
> Hello NFB of Ohio,
>
>
>
> I didn't know that it was possible to be so energized, and yet so exhausted
> at the same time, but that is exactly how I am feeling now after our 73rd
> NFB of Ohio Convention. It was a great weekend, and I am looking forward to
> the upcoming year to continue the work of the Federation.
>
>
>
> I did want to take the time to thank a few people who helped me and my
> chapter as the host chapter make everything that we did possible.
>
>
>
> First of all, I would be remiss if I didn't thank our President, Richard
> Payne and our Vice President Sheri Albers and the members of the convention
> planning committee for putting together the entire weekend. I know that
> there is a lot of details that need to be sorted out for a convention such
> as this to appear to be held smoothely and without complications, but I
> understand that behind the scenes it is always not the case, and I know that
> this is a challenge to deal with.
>
>
>
> As the host chapter, we were responsible for various aspects of the
> convention, and I want to thank the members of my chapter who helped out
> with various tasks, but especially Eric Duffy for organizing the hospitality
> room, and Ruth Boggs for assisting with everything that needed to be done to
> make everything hospitality run smoothely.
>
>
>
> I want to also thank the members of the Greater Akron chapter for manning
> the registration tables, so that our small chapter could focus on other
> tasks. I know that it is traditional for the host chapter to do this as
> well, but we are grateful that you were able and willing to pitch in and
> help with this.
>
>
>
> I want to thank Eric and Shelly Duffy for doing the pre-convention training
> for the hotel staff. They were not the original ones who were supposed to
> do this, but due to scheduling diffaculties, they agreed to step in at the
> last minute.
>
> Over the past few years now, I have been pleased to take care of the door
> prizes and auction items. This is a fun assignment that I enjoy quite a
> bit, but I couldn't pull it off on my own, so I would like to thank a few
> people for their help.
>
>
>
> For the door prizes, I would like to thank Jim Sheets for his help all
> weekend in making sure that everyone got their winnings delivered to them,
> and for always bringing me back the microphone.
>
>
>
> I would also like to thank Misty Hatcher for her help in organizing
> everything that came in, and just being my right hand girl.
>
>
>
> As for the auction, I could have not pulled it off without Eric Duffy for
> taking notes of everything that sold and to whom it went and for how much,
> and to Bret Cassy for manning the credit card app to collect payments.
>
>
>
> Lastly, and probably most importantly, I want to thank all of the chapters,
> divisions, and individuals who donated items for both the auction and the
> door prizes. We had a lot of really cool stuff this year, and I believe
> that everyone was pleased.
>
>
>
> When you take on an endeavor like trying to thank everyone for their help,
> you undoubtly forget someone that should have been mentioned, so if you
> helped me and I did not mention you, please forgive me and know that your
> assistance was still very much appreciated.
>
>
>
> Now for a couple of thoughts.
>
>
>
> Like I said, I believe that it was a great weekend, but there was a couple
> of things that caught my attention that I wanted the group to know about,
> and hope to improve on in the future.
>
>
>
> First of all, I was very disappointed that when Representative Croley spoke
> that she said that she had only received 5 written testimonies for our
> Parental Rights bill. We had over 130 people registered for convention, and
> to know that such a small number had taken the time to submit a few words in
> support of this vital legislation was disappointing.
>
>
>
> Second, I wanted to share a story with you. I didn't stay at the hotel
> overnight since I live so close, so I didn't join everybody at breakfast.
>> From what I understand, it was pretty crazy. I had one of our members (I
> didn't catch his name) come into the prize room where I was and tell me that
> he had left the breakfast because it was so crowded. He then told me that
> he had overheard one of the servers make the statement that "these people
> should have brought someone to help them." This comment has been bothering
> me all weekend for many reasons. First of all, this means that some of our
> members were probably relying a little too much on the wait staff to help
> with the buffet, instead of relying on their own skills or those of other
> Federationists to help them. But even more than that, in a roomful of
> capable and independent blind people, a sighted person still believed that
> we were incapable of helping ourselves and that we should have brought
> someone in essence to take care of us. This just tells me that, even though
> we have come a long way, the Federation still has a long way to go, and a
> lot of work to do to show people what we are truly capable of.
>
>
>
> So, enough of my negative comments.
>
>
>
> Lastly, I want to thank the NFB of Ohio for electing me to serve once again
> on our Board of Directors. I am looking forward to the next two years to
> continue to grow the Federation and do the vital work on our behalf.
>
>
>
> I pray that all of you made it home safely, and I am looking forward to
> seeing all of you at convention in 2020!
>
>
>
> Let's go build the Federation!
>
>
>
> Annette Lutz
>
> President
>
> Capital Chapter of the National Federation of the Blind of Ohio
>
> 614-288-4323
>
> annettelutz at att.net
>
>
>
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
> characteristic that defines you or your future. Everyday, we raise the
> expectations of blind people because we know that low expectations are
> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you
> want, blindness is not what holds you back.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Ohio-Talk mailing list
> Ohio-Talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/ohio-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Ohio-Talk:
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> il.com
>
>
>
>
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