[Ohio-Talk] Hadley

Sat Oct 2 18:07:21 UTC 2021

Your points are well taken. I was just thinking about having an impact on Hadley. It would be nice to know what motivated them to make such a dopey decision in order to strengthen the resolution.

Barbara
Barbara Pierce (she, her, hers)
President Emerita
National Federation of the Blind of Ohio
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> On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Cheryl Fischer via Ohio-Talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> You point out that it is a private educational institution, so they are not required by law to do the right thing. Does a resolution require the backbone of law?
> I recall NFB resolutions being written simply because something or other was perceived by the blind to be harmful or hurtful to blind people. Did the NFB ever pass an anti-Mr. Maggoo resolution? 
> I agree that we should talk to the people at Hadley to determine what has happened. Who do they intend their students to be, going forward. Maybe sighted grade school kids doing a diversity project on-line? 
> Cheryl       
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> 
> I don’t recognize any names on the Hadley board. 
> 
> 
> I suspect that the change in style and content of Braille courses has been driven by the market place. I am a bit nervous about writing a resolution without knowing why they did what they did. It seems so incredibly stupid that my common sense suggests that there must be more to the story than we know. It would be immensely useful if we could talk to someone who knows more about the decision to change. This is a private educational institution, so they are not required by law to do the right thing for blind people.
> 
> Barbara
> Barbara Pierce (she, her, hers)
> President Emerita
> National Federation of the Blind of Ohio Barbara.pierce9366 at gmail.com
> 440-774-8077
> 
> 
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise expectations for blind people because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and their dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back.
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2021, at 8:31 PM, Todd Elzey via Ohio-Talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I did a little research on this.  Hadley definitely has changed 
>> some things up. In fact, my old Hadley account ids don' even work 
>> anymore. From what I can tell they have two braille workshop series 
>> now. One is learning braille by sight. This appears to be geared more 
>> towards transcriptionists and other sighted individuals who might want 
>> to learn braille visually for some reason. The second series is called 
>> "Embracing Braille" and appears to be more geared towards the blind 
>> who would need to learn braille. But these are not traditional 
>> courses. Rather both series appear to be a series of audio/video 
>> podcast-styled workshops.  From what I can tell, it appears that they 
>> are very unstructured (i.e.it appears to be entirely self-guided 
>> without formal assignments, grading, or instructor input).  Not sure this would have any real value for someone newly blinded.
>> 
>> Because someone asked, here is a list of Hadley's Board of Trustees.
>> Although I could be wrong because I don't know everyone in the NFB, it 
>> does not appear that there are any obvious NFB leaders on the Board.
>> 
>> Scott B. Dickes
>> *Chair*
>> 
>> Louise A. Holland
>> *Immediate Past Chair*
>> 
>> Mark F. Stephan
>> *Vice Chair*
>> 
>> Thomas C. Denison
>> *Secretary/Treasurer*
>> 
>> Julie S. Tye
>> *President*
>> 
>> Brooke H. Voss
>> *Vice President*
>> Trustees
>> 
>> Larry A. Barden
>> Steven V.L. Brown, M.D.
>> Barbra L. Bukovac
>> Teresa R. Cannon
>> Judith B. Castellini
>> Andrew J. Cittadine
>> Stephen C. Coley
>> Linda R. Crane
>> Dewey B. Crawford
>> Thomas C. Denison
>> Scott B. Dickes
>> Paul W. Earle, Jr.
>> Sandra C. Forsythe
>> Paul M. Gallo
>> Michael A. Gold
>> Louis S. Harrison
>> Alyssa S. Hayes
>> Stace A. Hilbrant
>> Louise A. Holland
>> William T. McClain
>> Gordon Montgomery
>> Lynne D. Montgomery
>> Betsey L. Puth
>> Sara H. Ridder
>> Bradley E. Rendell
>> Garrick M. Rice
>> Juergen M. Stark
>> Mark F. Stephan
>> Julie S. Tye
>> Jennifer A. Wainwright
>> Allen A. Weaver
>> Life Trustees
>> 
>> Mary B. Babson
>> Sarah B. Barden
>> Jeanne M. Denison
>> 
>> Byram E. Dickes
>> 
>> Suzanne H. Dickes
>> Thomas A. Donahoe
>> Terry M. Faulk
>> Elizabeth E. George
>> Raymond E. George, Jr.
>> Charles A. Horstmann
>> Joan F. Kasten
>> Jon R. Lind
>> Gwen J. McConnaughy
>> Robert P. McNeill
>> John W. Puth
>> Frank A. Rossi
>> Rosita M. Schloss
>> Robert F. Seebeck
>> James H. Stone
>> Marilynn J. Thoma
>> 
>> I hope this is enlightening.
>> 
>> Todd Elzey
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 7:08 PM Colleen Roth via Ohio-Talk < 
>> ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> I have never heard of teaching braille via Audio or Visual Means. As 
>>> we all know Braille is tactile.
>>> Students who try to read using their eyes do not develop Braille 
>>> Reading skills.
>>> I definitely agree with Cheryl concerning a Resolution.
>>> I also understand Hadley no longer grades Course Work.
>>> Some years ago the Toledo Sight Center taught the first letters of 
>>> the apphabet and sent students to Hadley. At the some I said that I 
>>> thought the Alphabet had 26 letters. I also there were Contractions, 
>>> Short Form Words, etc.
>>> Braille is very important and we should count our Blessings having it.
>>> I use Braille every day including my Perkins Braille Writer.
>>> I have the Braille Writer I got in 1961.
>>> It works well and is very efficient. I also carry a slate and stylus 
>>> in my purse.
>>> If we can't get Hadley to do what is right for blind people we should 
>>> figure out how to get Braille Teaching to those who need it.
>>> Even if we have to charge a fee for the service it is probably one of 
>>> the most important things the NFB should be doing.
>>> I wonder if there are any blind people from NFB on Hadley's Board.
>>> Colleen Roth, President;
>>> At Large Chapter;
>>> NFB of Ohio;
>>> 
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