[Perform-Talk] ncis episode on cbs

Kaiti Shelton crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
Sun Apr 29 01:09:46 UTC 2018 

Hi everyone,

It's been a long time since I chimed in here.  I took a long time off
of pretty much anything that wasn't school or internship, but I've
been starting to dip my toe back in the water and get more involved in
the things I used to do.  I hope this is an okay way to do that.

I'll confess I didn't read every single email here, but I did form
some good questions based on what I did read and know about blindness.
I'm mostly a stage actress in community theatre, but I think I have
some good discussion.

Most roles for blind characters I have seen are for totally blind
characters.  I have never seen a character that is relatable to my
experience of blindness.  I would love to see someone who is a
character with vision that fluctuates randomly, has light sensitivity,
maybe has vision in one eye but not the other, maybe can read print
onne day but rely on a phone app to read the same text later, etc.  I
would also love to see portrayals of the foibles that happen when one
can pass for sighted but is actually blind to some degree, or when one
is using a cane/dog and describes themselves as blind, but is assumed
to be faking because they let it slip that they see something
functionally, and shatter people's assumptions that they are total.
These are all very real experiences for the majority of us who have
some residual vision, yet they have no screen time that I am aware of.
All the major blind characters I can think of, and even the minor ones
I can think of, are all total.  The disability as a whole is being
represented by very few roles, and of those roles only one part of the
spectrum is being portrayed.

I bring this up because I thought the interaction Maria shared between
her and the other actress who was upset about a partially sighted
person being cast as a totally blind character was a little funny.
I'm glad that most of us if not all here seem to think that it's a win
because a sighted person was not cast for the part, but I think we
could get into some hot water if we start insisting that casting
directors be completely specific about casting only totally blind
people in totally blind roles, at least for now.  This would cause a
few problems.  First, I don't think we can complain about having so
few roles for blind characters and decreased access to those parts for
blind actors and actresses, then limit our pool of blind actors and
actresses for the industry to choose from.  That seems
counterintuitive to me if we want greater representation.  Second, I
think that we need to encourage the industry to write roles which show
the diversity of blind people and other disabilities.  Not all blind
people are total, not all autistic people are aloof as is typically
shown on TV, etc.  Yet, the person with fluctuating vision and the
autistic kid who is super out-going don't have representation at all.
This is part of the problem of stereotypes in the first place, and if
society continues to only se totally blind people and aloof autistics
in the media, of course they're not going to understand how these
spectrums work.  To be clear, I am excited about this role and along
with other good casting moves lately, (E.G, an actually autistic actor
cast in the lead for The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night
Time), I think we're making progress.  However, I hope this is further
food for thought when we talk about casting and representation.  I
think it would be awesome to see totally blind people play partially
sighted characters and vice versa, just as long as those roles are
also available and sighted people don't put on cripface to get them.


On 4/28/18, Amy Sabo via Perform-talk <perform-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> hello bridgit and all,
>
> well, yes this has been a very good discussion in mind indeed!  so, I
> will comment with you all in one message instead of many others...
> yes, we need to work most closely with organizations in the community
> to deal with blind actors and, I believe that this division in the
> coming year should discuss this and, also direct this with the
> national board. I think this would be a excellent topic to discuss at
> the meeting this summer or have a panel discussion on it! that's just
> my thought on this topic... as to dealing with being a blind actor in
> working as a blind actor in the media industry. we need to have more
> of this but, we don't need to hide from our disability unless we have
> to for in auditioning for that particular part. I had to endure this
> when I was in choir myself when I was in high school and, I wanted to
> be treated as a blid person even though I was hiding my blindness to
> my friends and, also to myself too!
>
> I too have also to encounter this myself in giving presentations in my
> communications classes. I want to portray myself as a sighted person
> but, I didn't want to hide my disability as a blind student and
> person.
>
> well, that's just my thoughts on this...  thanks again and, I will
> talk to you soon!
>
>
>
> hugs,
> amy
>
> On 4/23/18, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Perform-talk
> <perform-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Julie,
>>
>> Great points.
>>
>> I'm of the opinion that abel-bodied actors can play disabled characters,
>> but
>> I think a disabled actor should also be considered first most the time, or
>> at least considered and given equal consideration.
>>
>> I completely agree that the diversity movement in Hollywood has not been
>> extended to disabled people. I think it's an unintentional over-sight (no
>> pun intended) people just don't automatically assume disabled people "do"
>> things like that, just like most professions. So I think we need to
>> somehow
>> push our way into this growing movement in the performing arts.
>>
>> Yes, if a blind actor played a character that flies planes or races cars,
>> that might not be realistic or believable, at least not yet, but there are
>> plenty of other roles that are not so specific. I believe there was a show
>> a
>> few years ago called Covert Affairs, about spies, I think, and the tech
>> specialist was blind. I don't think a blind actor played the role, but the
>> character was blind. I never saw the show, but I read about this. And from
>> what I understand, it was a popular show. So, a blind character can be
>> played realistically and not be a speedbump for the audience.
>>
>> Also, I read that Dame Judy Dench has RP and often has someone read her
>> scripts to her. I'm not sure how forthcoming she is on this topic though
>> since it's not commonly known. But if someone of her status and caliber
>> spoke up, it could help break barriers.
>>
>> Like any industry though, I think the more we make our presence known, the
>> better this situation will become. Doesn't mean it won't take years, but
>> we
>> need to keep washing over the rocks until they crumble into sand. Look at
>> actors who are POC. It's taken decades for POC to be cast in roles not
>> specific to their race/ethnicity. I think we need to settle in for the
>> long-haul too.
>>
>> Although, for the sake of discussion, I bring forth Hamilton. Now, I
>> understand the point of this show is to break down racial barriers and
>> stereotypes, displaying a historically disenfranchised point of view, but
>> with Hamilton, you have an entirely black/Latino cast playing historical
>> figures who were white. We all love and rally behind the message of
>> Hamilton, but is this much different, at the heart of the matter, than
>> sighted actors playing blind characters? A genuine question, and I'm
>> curious
>> to hear your responses.
>>
>> Bridgit
>> Great points.
>>
>> I'm of the opinion that abel-bodied actors can play disabled characters,
>> but
>> I think a disabled actor should also be considered first most the time, or
>> at least considered and given equal consideration.
>>
>> I completely agree that the diversity movement in Hollywood has not been
>> extended to disabled people. I think it's an unintentional over-sight (no
>> pun intended) people just don't automatically assume disabled people "do"
>> things like that, just like most professions. So I think we need to
>> somehow
>> push our way into this growing movement in the performing arts.
>>
>> Yes, if a blind actor played a character that flies planes or races cars,
>> that might not be realistic or believable, at least not yet, but there are
>> plenty of other roles that are not so specific. I believe there was a show
>> a
>> few years ago called Covert Affairs, about spies, I think, and the tech
>> specialist was blind. I don't think a blind actor played the role, but the
>> character was blind. I never saw the show, but I read about this.
>>
>> Also, I read that Dame Judy Dench has RP and often has someone read her
>> scripts to her. I'm not sure how forthcoming she is on this topic though
>> since it's not commonly known.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Perform-talk <perform-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie
>> McGinnity via Perform-talk
>> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 11:45 PM
>> To: Performing Arts Division list <perform-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Perform-Talk] ncis episode on cbs
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Thanks for a great discussion!
>>
>> First, and most important, good for Katelyn and Maria for auditioning!
>>  I'm so glad we had some of our number in the running!
>>
>> As for the topic of blind and otherwise disabled people in the
>> acting/performing industries, I believe we have a few issues at hand.
>> It is true that if a role calls specifically for a black, Hispanic, etc
>> person, no one outside of that description would be hired.  But I wonder
>> if
>> it is easier for people in other minority groups to transfer into roles
>> where there might not be a specific characteristic given or required.  I
>> am
>> much more familiar with stage acting than film acting, so maybe I am
>> totally
>> off and film acting isn't open-ended like that at all.  I'm thinking here
>> about various identity or career-related characteristics.  Teachers,
>> mothers, active children, even kings and queens.  Would it be difficult
>> for
>> most people to seamlessly envision transitioning a blind person into those
>> roles?  We know that blind people could most certainly play teachers,
>> mothers, active children, and kings and queens.  Why not?  Unfortunately,
>> society does not always think like the members of the National Federation
>> of
>> the Blind.
>> If we're talking other minority groups though, they would be more likely,
>> I
>> believe, than blind and disabled people to be cast in those roles.  Let's
>> be
>> real...  We can probably all find members of other minority groups in
>> those
>> roles on tv or in movies.
>> I've done a lot of reading on this topic, and it's quite interesting to
>> me.
>> Our community is often divided on whether or not sighted people should
>> ever
>> play blind characters.
>>
>> I would be most interested to hear from the actors on this list, like
>> Maria.
>>  How would this be approached in your training?  Are you encouraged to
>> audition for sighted roles at all?  I would imagine so...  But where are
>> the
>> boundaries between unrealistic and believable?  For example, the sighted
>> world may not be ready to see a blind detective on Law and Order, but a
>> blind lawyer?  Probably.  How are blind actors taught to think about these
>> things?  Or am I just completely overthinking them?  Perhaps the rule is
>> to
>> audition for anything, no matter your blindness?
>>
>> Going back to my point about other minority groups, research has been done
>> showing that Hollywood does not treat disability as though it is
>> diversity.
>> There are plenty of movements that seek to diversify casts, but they don't
>> include disability most of the time.  Again, our community is divided on
>> the
>> reason for this.  Some say that there aren't qualified blind actors out
>> there.  Some say that we're not given chances and can't get experience.
>> Maybe it's a little bit of both.  All you job seekers know what it feels
>> like to hunt for a job that requires experience no one will give you.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Julie
>>
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>> On 4/22/18, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Perform-talk
>> <perform-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> I agree, she would be great as a presenter for National.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Perform-talk <perform-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Amy
>>> Sabo via Perform-talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 3:58 PM
>>> To: Performing Arts Division list <perform-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Amy Sabo <amieelsabo at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Perform-Talk] ncis episode on cbs
>>>
>>> hello darron,
>>>
>>> thanks for your kind words on this topic. that's why I decided to post
>>> this to the list for others beside myself to post this thread to the
>>> list! it was kinda of getting kinda of quiet here and, I thought some
>>> lovely discussion on this topic would serve on this list!
>>>
>>> as to me and my feelings on how blindness was portrayed in this
>>> episode I thought that it was portrayed in a very positive manner and,
>>> and it was kinda of humerous for ncis which is a drama show on cbs and,
>>> not a comedy!
>>> as for the convention as for having her speak for the division meeting
>>> I think this would be a excellent idea for a panel on blind actors or
>>> just having her speak alone. I also think that president ricabanno
>>> should have her speak during general sessions. that would make for a
>>> good presentation on the agenda for general sessions. national has had
>>> some knowledgeable speakers at convention like many I have told here
>>> like Dianne Quinn, chris Matthews of hard ball, and many others too!
>>> I think that's something that the board should bring that the
>>> president ricabanno's attention and, also have the above as presenters
>>> for
>>> the division meeting.
>>>
>>>  that's just my thoughts and ideas. thanks again and, I will talk to
>>> you soon!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> hugs,
>>> amy
>>>
>>> On 4/22/18, Darian Smith via Perform-talk <perform-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>  I think that it is great that we are having this conversation. I
>>>> know that The National Federation of the Blind was consulted when it
>>>> came to this episode, and my understanding was that a blind actress
>>>> was selected to fill the role.
>>>>  Of course, these are positive things and is a victory in that blind
>>>> people are being truly considered in matters that pertain  to us.
>>>>  how did people enjoy the episode? how did you feel blindness was
>>>> portrayed in the episode?
>>>>  Brandon, you say that  Marilee communicated to you in your talking
>>>> with her that she grew up a member of the NFB  Is she still?
>>>>  It would be interesting to find out how  her involvement in the
>>>> federation shaped  her beliefs in blindness  and how those impacted
>>>> her career.
>>>>  I don’t know what the performing Arts Division has planned for
>>>> national convention, but I wonder if she might be a good idea for a
>>>> presenter?
>>>>  If nothing else, president Riccobono is looking for ideas  for the
>>>> convention, and I wonder if she might be a great fit there?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 22, 2018, at 4:31 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs via Perform-talk
>>>>> <perform-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> Marilee is indeed legally blind, she has 20/400 vision and only
>>>>> peripheral vision from rod-cone dystrophy, so she is unequivocally
>>>>> "blind"!
>>>>> She also grew up as part of the NFB from what she has told me.
>>>>> If you can find some recordings of her play Truce, she tells her
>>>>> life story
>>>>> there:
>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00tjdnv
>>>>> https://www.sfgate.com/performance/article/Theater-review-Impending-
>>>>> b
>>>>> lindness-in-Truce-3269890.php
>>>>> She is from the Bay Area.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 12:09 AM, Katelyn MacIntyre via Perform-talk
>>>>> < perform-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> I also submitted for the role of Annie B in the NCIS show, and had
>>>>>> some delightful exchanges with the casting directors while they
>>>>>> were considering. They did genuinely seem to desire to do the right
>>>>>> thing and hire a blind actress. I haven’t had time to watch the
>>>>>> episode yet, though I plan to do so, and of course I have never met
>>>>>> Marilee Talkington, the actress who was cast for the NCIS in
>>>>>> person, but there are several articles about her online saying that
>>>>>> she is “legally blind.” She also calls herself a disability
>>>>>> activist on her own website. Here is one such article about an
>>>>>> unrelated show describing her as blind:
>>>>>> http://lighthouse-sf.org/2010/
>>>>>> 03/09/marilee-talkingtons-truce-premieres-march-17-2/ So, it does
>>>>>> appear to me that NCIS did try to hire a blind actress. I
>>>>>> absolutely do agree, however, that there are far too many disabled
>>>>>> characters played by non-disabled people in the entertainment
>>>>>> industry, which needs to continue to be an important topic of
>>>>>> discussion and advocacy. I hope this is helpful. It makes me so
>>>>>> happy to know that several NFB people auditioned for the part, even
>>>>>> if we didn’t get it! :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warmest regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~Katelyn MacIntyre
>>>>>> www.katelynmac.com
>>>>>> www.facebook.com/KatelynMacMusic
>>>>>> @KatelynMacMusic
>>>>>> Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts
>>>>>> Division
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2018, at 11:04 PM, Amy Sabo via Perform-talk <
>>>>>> perform-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> oh my gosh! I almost forgot about the actress who did the voice
>>>>>>> for rudragts!  her name was Dianne quan and, as a matter of fact
>>>>>>> she was a speaker at general sessions at the nfb national
>>>>>>> convention in Louisville, ky in 2002. I knew of her through a
>>>>>>> article that was written about her in usa today in the life
>>>>>>> section and, she was also featured the summer or which issue of the
>>>>>>> nickeloden magazine.
>>>>>>> I will try to find those articles if anyone is interested in me
>>>>>>> posting them here on the list
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> btw, sory for the misspellings it's late here so, I do apologize
>>>>>>> for that  lol.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hugs,
>>>>>>> amy!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/21/18, Joseph Bundy via Perform-talk
>>>>>>>> <perform-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> There has been some famous blind actors. The girl who played
>>>>>>>> Kimmy on the show Rug Rats was blind. They converted all of her
>>>>>>>> scripts into braille.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/22/18, Maria  via Perform-talk <perform-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Amy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I actually auditioned for the role and this is why I know that
>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>> actresses auditioned.  The day I auditioned, there were about 15
>>>>>>>>> other blind ladies auditioning.  I was ok with not getting the
>>>>>>>>> role as long as they hired someone who was actually blind.  I
>>>>>>>>> don't think it's ok for this
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> happen and, let me tell you, it happens all of the time.  Would
>>>>>>>>> it be
>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> hire a white person to play the role of a black person as long
>>>>>>>>> as they consulted a black person first?  I'm sorry, but to me
>>>>>>>>> this is unacceptable.
>>>>>>>>> I sincerely hope that one day the disabled  community will be
>>>>>>>>> included
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> this industry, and not just as consultants.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Maria
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Perform-talk [mailto:perform-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>>> Amy
>>>>>>>>> Sabo via Perform-talk
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 10:26 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: Performing Arts Division list
>>>>>>>>> Cc: Amy Sabo
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Perform-Talk] ncis episode on cbs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hello maria,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I didn't know that she was a sighted actress. as a matter of
>>>>>>>>> fact I googled her name from the synsopasis that I pasted in the
>>>>>>>>> message that I posted to the list to see if you were rifght or
>>>>>>>>> not and, you were!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I didn't know that they auditioned many blind actresses for this
>>>>>>>>> role and, that you know of them. I think that's something this
>>>>>>>>> division should address in the near future. yes, it was a shame
>>>>>>>>> that a blind actress wasn't portrayed instead of having a
>>>>>>>>> sighted portray this part. but, I believe that it was portrayed
>>>>>>>>> in a good manner for the fact!  but, thanks for clarflying this
>>>>>>>>> and, I will talk to you soon!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hugs,
>>>>>>>>> amy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/21/18, Maria  via Perform-talk <perform-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I think it was a true shame that they did not hire a blind
>>>>>>>>>> actress for this role.  I know many blind actresses auditioned
>>>>>>>>>> and it was unfortunate
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> they decided to go with a sighted actress.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Perform-talk [mailto:perform-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>> Amy
>>>>>>>>>> Sabo via Perform-talk
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 7:35 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Performing Arts Division list
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Amy Sabo
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Perform-Talk] ncis episode on cbs
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sory, for the late notice but, I should've posted this to the
>>>>>>>>>> list this past week but, due to personal issues in my life I do
>>>>>>>>>> apologize for this late notice. as you all know this past
>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday night on cbs ncis aired theepisode about a blind
>>>>>>>>>> actress who happened to be blind aired. I didn't know if any of
>>>>>>>>>> you caught this live or not which unfortunately, I didn't but,
>>>>>>>>>> want to rewatch it or catch it online if
>>>>>>>>>> any of you including myself missed it!   so, here is the link for
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> show which aired on april 17,2018
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cbs.com/shows/ncis/video/mxTPUJVOdiZQhNejJzjU2JfYal
>>>>>>>>>> U
>>>>>>>>>> FKY
>>>>>> lL/ncis-sight-unseen
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> in case you all didn't know what the episode was about or not
>>>>>>>>>> before you watch it so, you know what it was all about here it
>>>>>>>>>> is...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> •    NCIS - Sight Unseen
>>>>>>>>>> Air Date: 04/17/18
>>>>>>>>>> NCIS searches for a petty officer suspected of assault who
>>>>>>>>>> escapes when the sheriff transporting him crashes into a lake.
>>>>>>>>>> Also, Torres works closely with Annie Barth (Marilee
>>>>>>>>>> Talkington), a key blind witness who heard vital evidence
>>>>>>>>>> needed to solve the case. (TV-PG L,
>>>>>>>>>> V)
>>>>>>>>>> •
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> so, let's start some discussion on thistopic on this episode.
>>>>>>>>>> and, I want to hear you guys input, opinions, or suggestions,
>>>>>>>>>> or thoughts on what you all thought it if you watched it or not
>>>>>>>>>> here on this list?
>>>>>>>>>> so, I will begin with my 2 cents worth. I thought the episode
>>>>>>>>>> was a very good way in blindness was portrayed in a humerous
>>>>>>>>>> way even though this show is a drama but, it showed blindness
>>>>>>>>>> in a positive manner but, i'm glad that the nfb got involved
>>>>>>>>>> with this and, that thisd division was also involved in getting
>>>>>>>>>> people to be a part of this craft as portraying actors in a
>>>>>>>>>> positive manner of blindness.  I also thought I liked how she
>>>>>>>>>> educated torris about blindness even he had some misconceptions
>>>>>>>>>> and, that the other agents including gibbs didn't midjudge her
>>>>>>>>>> or her abilities even though she was bblind.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> so, that's my 2 cents worth on this topic. so, let's keep the
>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>>>> going!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hugs,
>>>>>>>>>> amy
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Take Care and God Bless
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joseph S. Bundy
>>>>>>>> 1405-693-4771
>>>>>>>> Josephbundy92 at gmail.commm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God
>>>>>>>> for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also
>>>>>>>> to the Greek.-Romans 1:16 For we walk by faith, not by sight.-2
>>>>>>>> Corinthians 5:7 Seeing that His divine power has granted to us
>>>>>>>> everything pertaining to life and godliness, through the true
>>>>>>>> knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and excellence.-2
>>>>>>>> Peter 1:3 Yet those who wait for the LORD Will gain new strength;
>>>>>>>> They will bmount up with wings like eagles, They will run and not
>>>>>>>> get tired, They will walk and not become weary.-Isaiah 40:31
>>>>>>>> Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no
>>>>>>>> one comes to the Father but through Me.-John 14:6 He must
>>>>>>>> increase, but I must decrease.-John 3:30
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>> --
>> Julie A. McGinnity
>> President, National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division,
>> Second
>> Vice President, National Federation of the Blind of Missouri "For we walk
>> by
>> faith, not by sight"
>> 2 Cor. 7
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