[Perform-Talk] ncis episode on cbs

Amy Sabo amieelsabo at gmail.com
Sun Apr 29 01:19:31 UTC 2018


hello Kiley,

welcome back to the land of pad and, to this list! we were wondering
where you had been! but, I know things happen in our lives and, we
need to take a break with this list as I had to do a couple of years
due to personal issues in my life.

also, thanks for your feedback on this topic and, also your views on
being a actress even though you are in community theatre. I like your
views and, your thoughts on this topic and, i'm glad that you brought
that thread in your lives into this topic.  take care and, I will talk
to you soon!



hugs,
amy

On 4/28/18, Kaiti Shelton via Perform-talk <perform-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> It's been a long time since I chimed in here.  I took a long time off
> of pretty much anything that wasn't school or internship, but I've
> been starting to dip my toe back in the water and get more involved in
> the things I used to do.  I hope this is an okay way to do that.
>
> I'll confess I didn't read every single email here, but I did form
> some good questions based on what I did read and know about blindness.
> I'm mostly a stage actress in community theatre, but I think I have
> some good discussion.
>
> Most roles for blind characters I have seen are for totally blind
> characters.  I have never seen a character that is relatable to my
> experience of blindness.  I would love to see someone who is a
> character with vision that fluctuates randomly, has light sensitivity,
> maybe has vision in one eye but not the other, maybe can read print
> onne day but rely on a phone app to read the same text later, etc.  I
> would also love to see portrayals of the foibles that happen when one
> can pass for sighted but is actually blind to some degree, or when one
> is using a cane/dog and describes themselves as blind, but is assumed
> to be faking because they let it slip that they see something
> functionally, and shatter people's assumptions that they are total.
> These are all very real experiences for the majority of us who have
> some residual vision, yet they have no screen time that I am aware of.
> All the major blind characters I can think of, and even the minor ones
> I can think of, are all total.  The disability as a whole is being
> represented by very few roles, and of those roles only one part of the
> spectrum is being portrayed.
>
> I bring this up because I thought the interaction Maria shared between
> her and the other actress who was upset about a partially sighted
> person being cast as a totally blind character was a little funny.
> I'm glad that most of us if not all here seem to think that it's a win
> because a sighted person was not cast for the part, but I think we
> could get into some hot water if we start insisting that casting
> directors be completely specific about casting only totally blind
> people in totally blind roles, at least for now.  This would cause a
> few problems.  First, I don't think we can complain about having so
> few roles for blind characters and decreased access to those parts for
> blind actors and actresses, then limit our pool of blind actors and
> actresses for the industry to choose from.  That seems
> counterintuitive to me if we want greater representation.  Second, I
> think that we need to encourage the industry to write roles which show
> the diversity of blind people and other disabilities.  Not all blind
> people are total, not all autistic people are aloof as is typically
> shown on TV, etc.  Yet, the person with fluctuating vision and the
> autistic kid who is super out-going don't have representation at all.
> This is part of the problem of stereotypes in the first place, and if
> society continues to only se totally blind people and aloof autistics
> in the media, of course they're not going to understand how these
> spectrums work.  To be clear, I am excited about this role and along
> with other good casting moves lately, (E.G, an actually autistic actor
> cast in the lead for The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night
> Time), I think we're making progress.  However, I hope this is further
> food for thought when we talk about casting and representation.  I
> think it would be awesome to see totally blind people play partially
> sighted characters and vice versa, just as long as those roles are
> also available and sighted people don't put on cripface to get them.
>
>
> On 4/28/18, Amy Sabo via Perform-talk <perform-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> hello bridgit and all,
>>
>> well, yes this has been a very good discussion in mind indeed!  so, I
>> will comment with you all in one message instead of many others...
>> yes, we need to work most closely with organizations in the community
>> to deal with blind actors and, I believe that this division in the
>> coming year should discuss this and, also direct this with the
>> national board. I think this would be a excellent topic to discuss at
>> the meeting this summer or have a panel discussion on it! that's just
>> my thought on this topic... as to dealing with being a blind actor in
>> working as a blind actor in the media industry. we need to have more
>> of this but, we don't need to hide from our disability unless we have
>> to for in auditioning for that particular part. I had to endure this
>> when I was in choir myself when I was in high school and, I wanted to
>> be treated as a blid person even though I was hiding my blindness to
>> my friends and, also to myself too!
>>
>> I too have also to encounter this myself in giving presentations in my
>> communications classes. I want to portray myself as a sighted person
>> but, I didn't want to hide my disability as a blind student and
>> person.
>>
>> well, that's just my thoughts on this...  thanks again and, I will
>> talk to you soon!
>>
>>
>>
>> hugs,
>> amy
>>
>> On 4/23/18, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Perform-talk
>> <perform-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Julie,
>>>
>>> Great points.
>>>
>>> I'm of the opinion that abel-bodied actors can play disabled characters,
>>> but
>>> I think a disabled actor should also be considered first most the time,
>>> or
>>> at least considered and given equal consideration.
>>>
>>> I completely agree that the diversity movement in Hollywood has not been
>>> extended to disabled people. I think it's an unintentional over-sight (no
>>> pun intended) people just don't automatically assume disabled people "do"
>>> things like that, just like most professions. So I think we need to
>>> somehow
>>> push our way into this growing movement in the performing arts.
>>>
>>> Yes, if a blind actor played a character that flies planes or races cars,
>>> that might not be realistic or believable, at least not yet, but there
>>> are
>>> plenty of other roles that are not so specific. I believe there was a
>>> show
>>> a
>>> few years ago called Covert Affairs, about spies, I think, and the tech
>>> specialist was blind. I don't think a blind actor played the role, but
>>> the
>>> character was blind. I never saw the show, but I read about this. And
>>> from
>>> what I understand, it was a popular show. So, a blind character can be
>>> played realistically and not be a speedbump for the audience.
>>>
>>> Also, I read that Dame Judy Dench has RP and often has someone read her
>>> scripts to her. I'm not sure how forthcoming she is on this topic though
>>> since it's not commonly known. But if someone of her status and caliber
>>> spoke up, it could help break barriers.
>>>
>>> Like any industry though, I think the more we make our presence known,
>>> the
>>> better this situation will become. Doesn't mean it won't take years, but
>>> we
>>> need to keep washing over the rocks until they crumble into sand. Look at
>>> actors who are POC. It's taken decades for POC to be cast in roles not
>>> specific to their race/ethnicity. I think we need to settle in for the
>>> long-haul too.
>>>
>>> Although, for the sake of discussion, I bring forth Hamilton. Now, I
>>> understand the point of this show is to break down racial barriers and
>>> stereotypes, displaying a historically disenfranchised point of view, but
>>> with Hamilton, you have an entirely black/Latino cast playing historical
>>> figures who were white. We all love and rally behind the message of
>>> Hamilton, but is this much different, at the heart of the matter, than
>>> sighted actors playing blind characters? A genuine question, and I'm
>>> curious
>>> to hear your responses.
>>>
>>> Bridgit
>>> Great points.
>>>
>>> I'm of the opinion that abel-bodied actors can play disabled characters,
>>> but
>>> I think a disabled actor should also be considered first most the time,
>>> or
>>> at least considered and given equal consideration.
>>>
>>> I completely agree that the diversity movement in Hollywood has not been
>>> extended to disabled people. I think it's an unintentional over-sight (no
>>> pun intended) people just don't automatically assume disabled people "do"
>>> things like that, just like most professions. So I think we need to
>>> somehow
>>> push our way into this growing movement in the performing arts.
>>>
>>> Yes, if a blind actor played a character that flies planes or races cars,
>>> that might not be realistic or believable, at least not yet, but there
>>> are
>>> plenty of other roles that are not so specific. I believe there was a
>>> show
>>> a
>>> few years ago called Covert Affairs, about spies, I think, and the tech
>>> specialist was blind. I don't think a blind actor played the role, but
>>> the
>>> character was blind. I never saw the show, but I read about this.
>>>
>>> Also, I read that Dame Judy Dench has RP and often has someone read her
>>> scripts to her. I'm not sure how forthcoming she is on this topic though
>>> since it's not commonly known.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Perform-talk <perform-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie
>>> McGinnity via Perform-talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 11:45 PM
>>> To: Performing Arts Division list <perform-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Perform-Talk] ncis episode on cbs
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thanks for a great discussion!
>>>
>>> First, and most important, good for Katelyn and Maria for auditioning!
>>>  I'm so glad we had some of our number in the running!
>>>
>>> As for the topic of blind and otherwise disabled people in the
>>> acting/performing industries, I believe we have a few issues at hand.
>>> It is true that if a role calls specifically for a black, Hispanic, etc
>>> person, no one outside of that description would be hired.  But I wonder
>>> if
>>> it is easier for people in other minority groups to transfer into roles
>>> where there might not be a specific characteristic given or required.  I
>>> am
>>> much more familiar with stage acting than film acting, so maybe I am
>>> totally
>>> off and film acting isn't open-ended like that at all.  I'm thinking here
>>> about various identity or career-related characteristics.  Teachers,
>>> mothers, active children, even kings and queens.  Would it be difficult
>>> for
>>> most people to seamlessly envision transitioning a blind person into
>>> those
>>> roles?  We know that blind people could most certainly play teachers,
>>> mothers, active children, and kings and queens.  Why not?  Unfortunately,
>>> society does not always think like the members of the National Federation
>>> of
>>> the Blind.
>>> If we're talking other minority groups though, they would be more likely,
>>> I
>>> believe, than blind and disabled people to be cast in those roles.  Let's
>>> be
>>> real...  We can probably all find members of other minority groups in
>>> those
>>> roles on tv or in movies.
>>> I've done a lot of reading on this topic, and it's quite interesting to
>>> me.
>>> Our community is often divided on whether or not sighted people should
>>> ever
>>> play blind characters.
>>>
>>> I would be most interested to hear from the actors on this list, like
>>> Maria.
>>>  How would this be approached in your training?  Are you encouraged to
>>> audition for sighted roles at all?  I would imagine so...  But where are
>>> the
>>> boundaries between unrealistic and believable?  For example, the sighted
>>> world may not be ready to see a blind detective on Law and Order, but a
>>> blind lawyer?  Probably.  How are blind actors taught to think about
>>> these
>>> things?  Or am I just completely overthinking them?  Perhaps the rule is
>>> to
>>> audition for anything, no matter your blindness?
>>>
>>> Going back to my point about other minority groups, research has been
>>> done
>>> showing that Hollywood does not treat disability as though it is
>>> diversity.
>>> There are plenty of movements that seek to diversify casts, but they
>>> don't
>>> include disability most of the time.  Again, our community is divided on
>>> the
>>> reason for this.  Some say that there aren't qualified blind actors out
>>> there.  Some say that we're not given chances and can't get experience.
>>> Maybe it's a little bit of both.  All you job seekers know what it feels
>>> like to hunt for a job that requires experience no one will give you.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Julie
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>>> On 4/22/18, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Perform-talk
>>> <perform-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> I agree, she would be great as a presenter for National.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Perform-talk <perform-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Amy
>>>> Sabo via Perform-talk
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 3:58 PM
>>>> To: Performing Arts Division list <perform-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Amy Sabo <amieelsabo at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Perform-Talk] ncis episode on cbs
>>>>
>>>> hello darron,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for your kind words on this topic. that's why I decided to post
>>>> this to the list for others beside myself to post this thread to the
>>>> list! it was kinda of getting kinda of quiet here and, I thought some
>>>> lovely discussion on this topic would serve on this list!
>>>>
>>>> as to me and my feelings on how blindness was portrayed in this
>>>> episode I thought that it was portrayed in a very positive manner and,
>>>> and it was kinda of humerous for ncis which is a drama show on cbs and,
>>>> not a comedy!
>>>> as for the convention as for having her speak for the division meeting
>>>> I think this would be a excellent idea for a panel on blind actors or
>>>> just having her speak alone. I also think that president ricabanno
>>>> should have her speak during general sessions. that would make for a
>>>> good presentation on the agenda for general sessions. national has had
>>>> some knowledgeable speakers at convention like many I have told here
>>>> like Dianne Quinn, chris Matthews of hard ball, and many others too!
>>>> I think that's something that the board should bring that the
>>>> president ricabanno's attention and, also have the above as presenters
>>>> for
>>>> the division meeting.
>>>>
>>>>  that's just my thoughts and ideas. thanks again and, I will talk to
>>>> you soon!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hugs,
>>>> amy
>>>>
>>>> On 4/22/18, Darian Smith via Perform-talk <perform-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>  I think that it is great that we are having this conversation. I
>>>>> know that The National Federation of the Blind was consulted when it
>>>>> came to this episode, and my understanding was that a blind actress
>>>>> was selected to fill the role.
>>>>>  Of course, these are positive things and is a victory in that blind
>>>>> people are being truly considered in matters that pertain  to us.
>>>>>  how did people enjoy the episode? how did you feel blindness was
>>>>> portrayed in the episode?
>>>>>  Brandon, you say that  Marilee communicated to you in your talking
>>>>> with her that she grew up a member of the NFB  Is she still?
>>>>>  It would be interesting to find out how  her involvement in the
>>>>> federation shaped  her beliefs in blindness  and how those impacted
>>>>> her career.
>>>>>  I don’t know what the performing Arts Division has planned for
>>>>> national convention, but I wonder if she might be a good idea for a
>>>>> presenter?
>>>>>  If nothing else, president Riccobono is looking for ideas  for the
>>>>> convention, and I wonder if she might be a great fit there?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 22, 2018, at 4:31 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs via Perform-talk
>>>>>> <perform-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> Marilee is indeed legally blind, she has 20/400 vision and only
>>>>>> peripheral vision from rod-cone dystrophy, so she is unequivocally
>>>>>> "blind"!
>>>>>> She also grew up as part of the NFB from what she has told me.
>>>>>> If you can find some recordings of her play Truce, she tells her
>>>>>> life story
>>>>>> there:
>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00tjdnv
>>>>>> https://www.sfgate.com/performance/article/Theater-review-Impending-
>>>>>> b
>>>>>> lindness-in-Truce-3269890.php
>>>>>> She is from the Bay Area.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 12:09 AM, Katelyn MacIntyre via Perform-talk
>>>>>> < perform-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> I also submitted for the role of Annie B in the NCIS show, and had
>>>>>>> some delightful exchanges with the casting directors while they
>>>>>>> were considering. They did genuinely seem to desire to do the right
>>>>>>> thing and hire a blind actress. I haven’t had time to watch the
>>>>>>> episode yet, though I plan to do so, and of course I have never met
>>>>>>> Marilee Talkington, the actress who was cast for the NCIS in
>>>>>>> person, but there are several articles about her online saying that
>>>>>>> she is “legally blind.” She also calls herself a disability
>>>>>>> activist on her own website. Here is one such article about an
>>>>>>> unrelated show describing her as blind:
>>>>>>> http://lighthouse-sf.org/2010/
>>>>>>> 03/09/marilee-talkingtons-truce-premieres-march-17-2/ So, it does
>>>>>>> appear to me that NCIS did try to hire a blind actress. I
>>>>>>> absolutely do agree, however, that there are far too many disabled
>>>>>>> characters played by non-disabled people in the entertainment
>>>>>>> industry, which needs to continue to be an important topic of
>>>>>>> discussion and advocacy. I hope this is helpful. It makes me so
>>>>>>> happy to know that several NFB people auditioned for the part, even
>>>>>>> if we didn’t get it! :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Warmest regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~Katelyn MacIntyre
>>>>>>> www.katelynmac.com
>>>>>>> www.facebook.com/KatelynMacMusic
>>>>>>> @KatelynMacMusic
>>>>>>> Vice President, National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts
>>>>>>> Division
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2018, at 11:04 PM, Amy Sabo via Perform-talk <
>>>>>>> perform-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> oh my gosh! I almost forgot about the actress who did the voice
>>>>>>>> for rudragts!  her name was Dianne quan and, as a matter of fact
>>>>>>>> she was a speaker at general sessions at the nfb national
>>>>>>>> convention in Louisville, ky in 2002. I knew of her through a
>>>>>>>> article that was written about her in usa today in the life
>>>>>>>> section and, she was also featured the summer or which issue of the
>>>>>>>> nickeloden magazine.
>>>>>>>> I will try to find those articles if anyone is interested in me
>>>>>>>> posting them here on the list
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> btw, sory for the misspellings it's late here so, I do apologize
>>>>>>>> for that  lol.....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hugs,
>>>>>>>> amy!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/21/18, Joseph Bundy via Perform-talk
>>>>>>>>> <perform-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> There has been some famous blind actors. The girl who played
>>>>>>>>> Kimmy on the show Rug Rats was blind. They converted all of her
>>>>>>>>> scripts into braille.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/22/18, Maria  via Perform-talk <perform-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Amy,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I actually auditioned for the role and this is why I know that
>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>> actresses auditioned.  The day I auditioned, there were about 15
>>>>>>>>>> other blind ladies auditioning.  I was ok with not getting the
>>>>>>>>>> role as long as they hired someone who was actually blind.  I
>>>>>>>>>> don't think it's ok for this
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> happen and, let me tell you, it happens all of the time.  Would
>>>>>>>>>> it be
>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> hire a white person to play the role of a black person as long
>>>>>>>>>> as they consulted a black person first?  I'm sorry, but to me
>>>>>>>>>> this is unacceptable.
>>>>>>>>>> I sincerely hope that one day the disabled  community will be
>>>>>>>>>> included
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> this industry, and not just as consultants.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Maria
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Perform-talk [mailto:perform-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>>>> Amy
>>>>>>>>>> Sabo via Perform-talk
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 10:26 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Performing Arts Division list
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Amy Sabo
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Perform-Talk] ncis episode on cbs
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hello maria,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I didn't know that she was a sighted actress. as a matter of
>>>>>>>>>> fact I googled her name from the synsopasis that I pasted in the
>>>>>>>>>> message that I posted to the list to see if you were rifght or
>>>>>>>>>> not and, you were!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I didn't know that they auditioned many blind actresses for this
>>>>>>>>>> role and, that you know of them. I think that's something this
>>>>>>>>>> division should address in the near future. yes, it was a shame
>>>>>>>>>> that a blind actress wasn't portrayed instead of having a
>>>>>>>>>> sighted portray this part. but, I believe that it was portrayed
>>>>>>>>>> in a good manner for the fact!  but, thanks for clarflying this
>>>>>>>>>> and, I will talk to you soon!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hugs,
>>>>>>>>>> amy
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/21/18, Maria  via Perform-talk <perform-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I think it was a true shame that they did not hire a blind
>>>>>>>>>>> actress for this role.  I know many blind actresses auditioned
>>>>>>>>>>> and it was unfortunate
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> they decided to go with a sighted actress.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Perform-talk [mailto:perform-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>> Amy
>>>>>>>>>>> Sabo via Perform-talk
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 7:35 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Performing Arts Division list
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Amy Sabo
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Perform-Talk] ncis episode on cbs
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sory, for the late notice but, I should've posted this to the
>>>>>>>>>>> list this past week but, due to personal issues in my life I do
>>>>>>>>>>> apologize for this late notice. as you all know this past
>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday night on cbs ncis aired theepisode about a blind
>>>>>>>>>>> actress who happened to be blind aired. I didn't know if any of
>>>>>>>>>>> you caught this live or not which unfortunately, I didn't but,
>>>>>>>>>>> want to rewatch it or catch it online if
>>>>>>>>>>> any of you including myself missed it!   so, here is the link for
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> show which aired on april 17,2018
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cbs.com/shows/ncis/video/mxTPUJVOdiZQhNejJzjU2JfYal
>>>>>>>>>>> U
>>>>>>>>>>> FKY
>>>>>>> lL/ncis-sight-unseen
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> in case you all didn't know what the episode was about or not
>>>>>>>>>>> before you watch it so, you know what it was all about here it
>>>>>>>>>>> is...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> •    NCIS - Sight Unseen
>>>>>>>>>>> Air Date: 04/17/18
>>>>>>>>>>> NCIS searches for a petty officer suspected of assault who
>>>>>>>>>>> escapes when the sheriff transporting him crashes into a lake.
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, Torres works closely with Annie Barth (Marilee
>>>>>>>>>>> Talkington), a key blind witness who heard vital evidence
>>>>>>>>>>> needed to solve the case. (TV-PG L,
>>>>>>>>>>> V)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> so, let's start some discussion on thistopic on this episode.
>>>>>>>>>>> and, I want to hear you guys input, opinions, or suggestions,
>>>>>>>>>>> or thoughts on what you all thought it if you watched it or not
>>>>>>>>>>> here on this list?
>>>>>>>>>>> so, I will begin with my 2 cents worth. I thought the episode
>>>>>>>>>>> was a very good way in blindness was portrayed in a humerous
>>>>>>>>>>> way even though this show is a drama but, it showed blindness
>>>>>>>>>>> in a positive manner but, i'm glad that the nfb got involved
>>>>>>>>>>> with this and, that thisd division was also involved in getting
>>>>>>>>>>> people to be a part of this craft as portraying actors in a
>>>>>>>>>>> positive manner of blindness.  I also thought I liked how she
>>>>>>>>>>> educated torris about blindness even he had some misconceptions
>>>>>>>>>>> and, that the other agents including gibbs didn't midjudge her
>>>>>>>>>>> or her abilities even though she was bblind.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> so, that's my 2 cents worth on this topic. so, let's keep the
>>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>>>>> going!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> hugs,
>>>>>>>>>>> amy
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> org/josephbundy92%40gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Take Care and God Bless
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joseph S. Bundy
>>>>>>>>> 1405-693-4771
>>>>>>>>> Josephbundy92 at gmail.commm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God
>>>>>>>>> for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also
>>>>>>>>> to the Greek.-Romans 1:16 For we walk by faith, not by sight.-2
>>>>>>>>> Corinthians 5:7 Seeing that His divine power has granted to us
>>>>>>>>> everything pertaining to life and godliness, through the true
>>>>>>>>> knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and excellence.-2
>>>>>>>>> Peter 1:3 Yet those who wait for the LORD Will gain new strength;
>>>>>>>>> They will bmount up with wings like eagles, They will run and not
>>>>>>>>> get tired, They will walk and not become weary.-Isaiah 40:31
>>>>>>>>> Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no
>>>>>>>>> one comes to the Father but through Me.-John 14:6 He must
>>>>>>>>> increase, but I must decrease.-John 3:30
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>> President, National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division,
>>> Second
>>> Vice President, National Federation of the Blind of Missouri "For we walk
>>> by
>>> faith, not by sight"
>>> 2 Cor. 7
>>>
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> Kaiti Shelton
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