[Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
Brandy W
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Sun Sep 25 13:50:29 UTC 2011
OK this has some awesome uses for blind teachers as well. My students I tutor can write on this, and I'll then have a digital copy of their work with out sacrificing their handwriting work by having them typing for things I don't want them typing. I'm totally going to check this out!!! Thanks I've learned so much from you. I taught with you once at NFB and learned a ton there. I'm so glad you are blogging!
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----- Original Message -----
From: Dr. Denise M. Robinson
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Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
I LOVE that Lori--when are you going to invent it?
I know, I often think about pulling that chip out of the digimemo and connect it to a knfb reader and seeing what I can do about getting it to read print instead of just text----remember how we all thought "How great" this is just 1 more little step..right?--that is still going around in my brain
Denise
Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
TechVision-Independent Contractor
Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training
509-674-1853 deniserob at gmail.com
http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
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From: Zephyr <twilight2 at kconline.com>
To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List <pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
Now, only if there was a software that would identify when the proper or improper strokes are being made. This could helpful for all students.
I can see an interactive program speaking the letter to write, the student embarks, and then the program giving feedback i.e. Ok, this time, start your O at the top and go to the left ,etc.
Ok, I digress...
----- Original Message -----
From: Dr. Denise M. Robinson
To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
Lori
I tried using many different types of printing. As long as it was printing...it got it. Cursive..not so much
Denise
Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
TechVision-Independent Contractor
Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training
509-674-1853 deniserob at gmail.com
http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
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From: Zephyr <twilight2 at kconline.com>
To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List <pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 3:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
Interesting. I wonder how accurate it would be if you do not use the traditional hand writing techniques. There is a lot more than just the shape of the letter.
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From: David Andrews
To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
I read that part of the reason that these kinds of devices work, and can do OCR on hand-writing is that they also track, and know in what order you do the strokes of writing. This helps them decide what letters you are drawing. With a system that only has an image of writing, it is apparently much more difficult to figure out, hence no one does it yet.
Dave
\At 08:37 AM 9/23/2011, you wrote:
Ok Albert
I had to go to my blog to get it...if you ever need anything repeated I have set up links to all the major products I talk about within the page on the blog
but I will save you time--here is the link on amazon
http://www.amazon.com/SolidTek-DigiMemo-692-Digital-Notepad/dp/B0009OD4CS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1316716386&sr=8-3
..remember, you MUST get the handwriting software that goes with it--another 45 bucks...here is another issue...it does take sighted help to select the image and translate it, unless you have practiced your mouse skills then you may be able to do it yourself--
I really believe a blind company needs to get a hold of this so they can put it in camera size AND improve some of the inaccessible parts like the selecting of the image
Denise
Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
TechVision-Independent Contractor
Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training
509-674-1853 deniserob at gmail.com
http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
From: Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org>
To: 'Professionals in Blindness Education Division List' <pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
Ok. what is the name of that software?
Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
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My Blind Spot, Inc.
90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
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-----Original Message-----
From: pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org
[ mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dr. Denise M.
Robinson
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 7:45 AM
To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
Albert..to add to the story. When I first got the digimemo and tried it out,
then translated it and only got an inaccessible PDF image I was pretty
disgusted, and that is putting it mildly....more research into this and I
found the handwriting translation software. I installed it and when I copied
that image and it made text and jaws talked it...I thought I had gone to
heaven....it was and is that incredible. So the moral here is....make sure
you get both--the tool AND the extra software--smile
Denise
Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
TechVision-Independent Contractor
Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training
509-674-1853 deniserob at gmail.com < mailto:deniserob at gmail.com>
http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
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From: Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org >
To: 'Professionals in Blindness Education Division List'
< pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 4:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
Yes. print is print and cursive is cursive. So I am fascinated to
learn that
this tool can interpret hand printed writing. Wow.
Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
Founder
My Blind Spot, Inc.
90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
New York, New York 10004
www.myblindspot.org
PH: 917-553-0347
Fax: 212-858-5759
"The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one
who is
doing it."
Visit us on Facebook LinkedIn
-----Original Message-----
From: pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org
[ mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dr. Denise M.
Robinson
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:20 PM
To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
Albert
I need to be careful here, yes, hand written notes as in printed
text. I did
try cursive, but it misses too many of the characters and does not
translate
well...printing letters as in from the hand....did I do a better job
of
explaining?--smile
Denise
Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
TechVision-Independent Contractor
Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training
509-674-1853 deniserob at gmail.com < mailto:deniserob at gmail.com>
http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
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From: Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org >
To: 'Professionals in Blindness Education Division List'
<pibe-division at nfbnet.org >
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
Denise,
Not sure I am understanding you. when I saw it demonstrated it
was
doing so
with printed text. are you saying it can also do the same thing
with
hand
written documents?
Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
Founder
My Blind Spot, Inc.
90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
New York, New York 10004
www.myblindspot.org
PH: 917-553-0347
Fax: 212-858-5759
"The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the
one
who is
doing it."
Visit us on Facebook LinkedIn
-----Original Message-----
From: pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org
[ mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dr.
Denise M.
Robinson
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:16 PM
To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
Albert
Yes, I am so amazed at the accuracy too. I tried drawing pies
and
other
graphs and though when you translate the handwriting into text
it
will take
out the pictures, but the words are still there. If low vision,
you
can get
a PDF image of it and enlarge for the low vision student, or
just
keep it on
the computer and they can enlarge it themselves...technology is
really a wow
thing
Denise
Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
TechVision-Independent Contractor
Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training
509-674-1853 deniserob at gmail.com < mailto:deniserob at gmail.com>
http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
From: Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org >
To: 'Professionals in Blindness Education Division List'
<pibe-division at nfbnet.org >
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
Denise and all,
I actually had a friend who uses this tool demonstrate the
same
in
my
presence. It is fantastic and very very precise. It is more
precise
then my
kursweil scanner.
Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
Founder
My Blind Spot, Inc.
90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
New York, New York 10004
www.myblindspot.org
PH: 917-553-0347
Fax: 212-858-5759
"The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt
the
one
who is
doing it."
Visit us on Facebook LinkedIn
-----Original Message-----
From: pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org
[ mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dr.
Denise M.
Robinson
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:32 PM
To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
Ok Lori--there is
The NFB-Kurzweil reader is the size of a phone because it is
a
phone
but
also has a camera attached. You hold it over anything in
print
about
your
elbow to arm length, take a picture and it will read the
text to
you. I will
do a longer blog on this to more fully explain its
capabilites
Denise
Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
TechVision-Independent Contractor
Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training
509-674-1853 deniserob at gmail.com
< mailto:deniserob at gmail.com>
http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
From: Zephyr <twilight2 at kconline.com >
To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
<pibe-division at nfbnet.org >
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
Wow! It's not Sci-fi any more?
Now, I want an ap that can scan and read hand-writing. I
can
always
hope there already something in existence that I am just in
the
dark
about.
Thanks for sharing the topics which should be brought to
the
attention of all blind students, families, and teachers and
administrators.
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From: Dr. Denise M. Robinson
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Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 2:44 PM
Subject: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
Digital Handwritten Notes
< http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/2011/09/digital-handwritten-notes.html
>
Digital Handwritten Notes. it sounds like an
oxymoron...kind
of like a hairy bald guy, but it is here.
The writing surface is about the size of a small
piece
of
paper. The whole board is light and easy to carry and about
the
size
of an
8x11 piece of paper. It is a tiny computer and you can add
more
RAM-
with a
memory card.
The blind student can take the digital note-taking
device to
a class where the teacher is very driven by writing on the
board.
The blind
student hands it to a sighted student and she takes notes on
it.
At
the end
of class, the sighted student rips off the pages for
themself
and
hands the
board back to the blind student. The blind student can then
download
all the
notes onto the computer. In tangent with this is a
handwriting
recognition
tool, which translates the handwriting into digital text
that
talking
software can read. Note taking made easy.
This is the one I have been using and as long as the
handwritten notes are legible, the pad can read it to the
computer.
SolidTek
DigiMemo 692 Digital Notepad with Memory by SolidTek
< http://www.amazon.com/SolidTek-DigiMemo-692-Digital-Notepad/dp/B0009OD4CS/r
ef=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1316716386&sr=8-3>
If you read this information in my blog,
http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/ you can just click on
the
links and it
will take you directly to the product, or if you are using
talking
software,
just bring up your links and you can go to the product. This
is
true
for all
the information in the blog.
Denise
Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
TechVision-Independent Contractor
Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training
509-674-1853 deniserob at gmail.com
< mailto:deniserob at gmail.com>
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