[Pibe-division] Feedback on Nemeth IEP goals

Sun Sep 8 23:20:04 UTC 2013

Here is the link where I found the information.
www.pathstoliteracy.org/common-core-standards-and-students-visual-im...

On 9/8/13, Marianne Denning <marianne at denningweb.com> wrote:
> Here is the document containing the Maryland braille math standards.
> If you are successful I would like a copy.  I just have not had time
> to work with it yet.  California and Utah also have braille standards.
>
> On 9/8/13, Karen Palau <kapa3960 at verizon.net> wrote:
>> How can we get a copy of the Maryland Common Core standards?  I'll take
>> them
>>
>> in any format even though I am a Jaws user.  Perhaps I can scan them and
>> pass them along to others on this list.  Please let me know how I can
>> access
>>
>> these standards.
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Karen
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marianne Denning
>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 5:12 PM
>> To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
>> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Feedback on Nemeth IEP goals
>>
>> Greg, Maryland has developed braille standards for their state
>> standards.  I don't know if they use common core or not but I can
>> email you the document if that might help.  I don't live in Maryland
>> but I looked at it.  I am blind and had difficulty with the document
>> because it is not accessible to JAWS.  If there are people from
>> Maryland on this list please put in additional information.
>>
>> On 9/8/13, Greg Aikens <gpaikens at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Marianne and all,
>>> Thanks for your thoughts.  Counting up the nemeth symbols she will need
>>> is
>>>
>>> a
>>> good idea.  Her baseline will be fairly high because of the way they are
>>> teaching math now using common core, but this does allow me to measure
>>> her
>>> progress toward an annual goal.  She has been introduced to most of the
>>> major Nemeth symbols that you need before algebra already.
>>>
>>> I had a 4th grader last year and I found that most of our instructional
>>> time
>>> was spent exploring spatial layouts for the different common core
>>> strategies
>>> and understanding concepts like writing out the multiple steps to solve
>>> a
>>> problem and show your work.    These items take up such a substantial
>>> part
>>> of my instruction that it seems appropriate to keep track of it with an
>>> objective if possible.  Does anyone have any thoughts on how I might do
>>> this?
>>>
>>> As to not writing a Nemeth goal at all: Even though she currently has no
>>> deficits in Nemeth, she will require Nemeth instruction as new concepts
>>> and
>>> symbols arise.  It is my understanding that if I am going to give a
>>> student
>>> service time, best practice would be to have that time attached to a
>>> goal
>>>
>>> or
>>> objective.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions.
>>>
>>> Greg Aikens, M. Ed.
>>> Teacher of students who are blind and visually impaired
>>> Cobb County School District
>>> gpaikens at gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Marianne Denning <marianne at denningweb.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Could you identify the new nemeth symbols she will learn and indicate
>>>> she will read and braille these symbols with a percentage of accuracy
>>>> on a number of tries?  I am not sure I would even write a nemeth goal
>>>> for her since it does not appear to be an issue.  Nemeth is her method
>>>> of completing math just like all of the math symbols are how sighted
>>>> children complete math and we don't write goals for sighted children
>>>> unless they are having specific problems.  Just my personal thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/8/13, Greg Aikens <gpaikens at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hello colleagues,
>>>>> I'm looking for input on how others write IEP goals for nemeth in
>>>>> elementary
>>>>> grades, or even for older students.  What I currently do is write a
>>>>> generic
>>>>> goal to improve Nemeth skills and then write specific objectives
>>>>> defining
>>>>> what I will measure etc.  I choose these objectives by selecting a
>>>>> handful
>>>>> of math skills covered in that grade.  For example, 1st grade common
>>>>> core
>>>>> standards include writing from 1-100 and so I would write a Nemeth
>>>>> objective
>>>>> for the same.  However, I generally only select topics that will be
>>>>> Nemeth
>>>>> code intensive, such as working problems in vertical format.  Because
>>>>> I
>>>>> am
>>>>> not a math specialist though, this feels arbitrary to me and
>>>>> inevitably,
>>>>> some of my objectives are only addressed during one quarter of the
>>>>> year.
>>>>>
>>>>> The above method works for many of my students who have demonstrated
>>>>> deficits and needs in particular parts of Nemeth instruction.
>>>>> However,
>>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>> am
>>>>> working on an IEP for a student who has excelled with every
>>>>> Nemeth/abacus/math related concept I have introduced in braille.  My
>>>>> only
>>>>> specific goal for her this next year is to master the Nemeth concepts
>>>>> necessary to complete the 4th grade math curriculum, but I'm having a
>>>>> hard
>>>>> time putting that in a measurable form.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any advice or input would be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg Aikens, M. Ed.
>>>>> Teacher of students who are blind and visually impaired
>>>>> Cobb County School District
>>>>> gpaikens at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>>>> (513) 607-6053
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Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053